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Sony, Intel To Push Content Protection
prostoalex writes "Intel and Sony are trying to please the copyright-alerted content publishers and privacy-aware consumers by supporting and pushing Digital Transmission Content Protection standard. New technology allows the consumer to use the downloaded content, but not distribute it outside of their home. A PDF presentation from an Intel engineer is available on dtcp.com."
I can't see any way to enforce that.
Of course assuming you are using linux or other open source OS.
My current setup means that I can't play DVDs on my PC, because I *might* be outputting the signal via TV-out (PowerDVD 4 on Win2000 Pro, generic DVD-ROM and GeForce2MX400 gfx).
:-)
What makes you think you'll be allowed to use a projector?
What does it do?
The Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Rights Management (RM) client is required for your computer to run applications that provide functionality based on Windows RM technologies. Installing this client places software on your computer that allows RM-aware applications to work with Windows Rights Management Services (RMS) to provide licenses for publishing and consuming RM-protected information.
Now what interests me is, who is going to be the first software company to embrace this? Probably the next version of Media Player.
use the vga in of the projector?
and what you mean that you can't play dvd's? programs like powerdvd refuse to play?? hasn't happened to me(and you know why there's macromedia chips to supposedly screw up the signal in cards with tv-out to be used with dvd's).
what makes me think that they'll allow use of projector? the fact that if they don't nobody will buy the thing because they wouldn't be able to use their tv's, monitors or ANYTHING to look at the said content(they have to make it possible to see/hear the stuff somehow, no?)
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
I disagree with the statement that entertainment has never been free.
The concept of someone "owning" a song is relatively new - the idea that someone wrote it is not.
It wasn't all that long ago that artists where happy for people to hear their work, because if it was good enough more people would pay to see them, and that would keep the food on the table.
The mega-stars of the end of the 20th, beginning of this century are a new invention (and a terrible one at that). If you want to see a good reason not to pay people these huge sums, look at what the fortune part of the fame & fortune did to their creativity....but that's another story.
tom-george.comBecause geeks rate higher t
When Intel comes out with "ultra-optimized .... [fine print] DRM enabled" systems...
DON'T BUY THEM.
That'll shut them up fairly quick.
Tom
Someday, I'll have a real sig.
Ironicly the software distribution format they settled on was the cd.
It's all about perspective. I smoke marijuana regularly in the privacy of my own home. By keeping it to myself I can't see that it's a problem, however the nation state that I live in views me as a criminal. I could go to jail.
/. community and cause everyone to be labelled "hypocrites".
While some people consider access to art and information a fundamental right, others see it as a privilege, which must be earned.
Remember, not every part of the world is capitalist either. Will the capitalist world start invading again when they find music being shared abroad? I hope not.
Democracy is not the answer to humanity's problems but most are agreed that it is certainly the way forward. So sooner or later we're going to have to come to terms with the fact that a capitalist democracy is a paradox. The profit-motive is fundamentally incompatible with true community representation.
Anyway, I can support linux and the open source movement whilst simultaneously having alternative beliefs to you and the bulk of Slashdot. That does not mean that my alternative beliefs should tarnish the reputation of the entire
Roll yourself a big fat spliff and think loving and peaceful thoughts. You'll soon find that tolerance becomes easier and easier. >D
To clarify:
PowerDVD 4, which is out NOW, on the market, will not allow MacroVision'd DVDs to be played at all on systems with a gfx card like the Nvidia GeForce2 MX400.
Reason: The GeForce2 doesn't allow the TVout hardware to be disabled by software, so PowerDVD prefers to stop me playing the DVD at all unless it can be sure I'm not outputting it via analogue.
People still buy PowerDVD, so I'l not sure your argument stands. Yes ok, VGA works at the moment, but it's being phased out by digital output, and you bet they'll be controlling exactly what kind of device you can plug in at any given time...
Middle aged pundit: I can't play this on my dvd player, I think it's broken.
Salesperson: *looks at DVD* oh, that's one of those new DRM protected dvd's.
Middle aged pundit: Drmwhazit?
Salesperson: It's a security measure to keep people from copying the DVD.
Middle aged pundit: Ok, well why won't it play on the player then?
Salesperson: Becuase you have to have a DRM enabled DVD player to run it.
Middle aged pundit: *runs through mind, looks over at shelf, sees an expensive $300 player for the DVD, becomes slightly irritated* Can I get a refund then?
Salesperson: Sorry, it's store policy not to give refunds on CD's or DVD's.
Middle aged pundit: Why?
Salesperson: Because a lot of people copy them and try to return them. If we allowed for refunds we'd go out of buisness.
Middle aged pundit: *now very irritated* But I didn't copy this, hell, it has copy protection on it! I want my money back.
Salesperson: Sorry, can't do it.
Middle aged pundit: Ok then. *runs off to look at the non-drm'd dvd section or out of the store very angry to return and look at the non-drm's dvd section*.
This is how DRM is going to effect most people. The youngin's and technically adept are going to know about it and not even get caught up in that. Plus, with their system it looks like it needs an internet connection which is even more expensive.
Only when it's cheap will it catch on. Remember that folks.
Intel's going to have to put some money investment into a fritz chip. Unless they are getting some profit out of this it ain't gonna happen. The whole idea for the corperations is to gouge people on the media they by and if that fails then the entire scheme will fail.
Candy-Coated Knowledge
I couldn't view the PDF but it almost sounded like Intel's big invention was basically to only allow transfer among private IPs. Specifically:
The DTCP specification, embodied in home networks, would permit consumers to play downloaded music or movies on any PC or digital device in the home. However, the downloaded material can't be transmitted outside the home or copied
Now what embodies a "home" network as opposed to an "outside" network? Private IPs. Almost all the people I know with broadband and multiple computers are using some kind of NAT. Think how easy it would be to put a chip in a consumer electronic device that sniffed out the IPs of files as they come in or out. Anything with 192.168.x.x is allowed and anything else is denied.
Now, I'm sure the hard core networking guys could use PPTP or something to "extend" their home network around the world but for 99% of the people out there, they already can't figure out how to share files over NAT (try listening to all the complaints about DCC not working in any IRC filesharing channel) so it's doubtful that they would know how to bypass this either.
And because it's the a chip in the electronic device that controls the input/output you couldn't just write a program that would be NAT aware like the modern P2P sharing programs. You'd essentially have to modchip all your devices, which could end up being a lot more trouble than its worth.
So that's my theory on how it'll work.
-JoeShmoe
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-- I wonder which will go down in history as the bigger failure: the War on Drugs or the War on Filesharing
Damn straight we'll crack it. Why should we respect the law, when the law has no respect for us? What matters is the will of the people, and this kind of grass roots direct action is far closer to what the people want than anything dreamed up in a congressional committee. The system is wholly corrupt, any attempt to work within the system will be rapidly hijacked or ignored while enough lip service is given to appease constituents. In such circumstances justice can only be had by working outside the system. Don't forget the only reason you're able to legally enjoy a beer with dinner tonight is because of massive disrespect for the law.
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