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Smart Sofa Recognizes Occupants by Weight

I am Kobayashi writes "According to CNN.com scientists at Trinity College in Dublin have created my dream couch. And yes, I admit to being a couch potato... Apparently the couch can be programmed with a personal greeting (it recognizes you by weight), and the scientists hope that it will one day be able to automatically tune to your favorite television programs, order you take out food, and control other household appliances."

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  1. Hi, Cindy, want the same as last time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Cindy? Who is Cindy? No, honest honey, I have no idea who Cindy is. What's this couch talking about! ?"

    1. Re:Hi, Cindy, want the same as last time? by saden1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh great, a new way for Americans to get fat. Kill your TV and read a book or go exercise for god sake.

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    2. Re:Hi, Cindy, want the same as last time? by linzeal · · Score: 4, Funny

      One day americans will rule the world from their couches thanks to their robot slaves.

    3. Re:Hi, Cindy, want the same as last time? by GreyPoopon · · Score: 4, Funny
      Oh great, a new way for Americans to get fat.

      No, we can't get any fatter. If we do, the couch won't recognize us.

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    4. Re:Hi, Cindy, want the same as last time? by zero_offset · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh great, a new way for Americans to get fat. Kill your TV and read a book or go exercise for god sake. Reading a book really melts those pounds away. I need to start posting more knee-jerk replies about Big Bad British Teeth.

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    5. Re:Hi, Cindy, want the same as last time? by RevAaron · · Score: 2, Interesting

      1. I watch almost no TV. Perhaps 1 hr/week, 2 hr/week if there is something special.
      2. I read a lot.
      3. I'm a fatty.

      I kind of think as myself as having some funky form of OCD, some sort of slightly humorous and completely benign form. My obsessions are efficiency (but in my own backward way) and reading, kind of related.

      I read all the time when I'm not engaged in activity with someone else. I read when I go take a dump. I read when I'm eating alone at the table. I read on the bus, and when I'm watiting for it. When I'm driving, I sometimes pick up my PDA at the stop light, only to read a half a sentence. I used to read when I was walking between classes, although I've stopped that for the most part. (I also usually beatbox when walking around, and I don't like getting spittle on my PDA screen!) Hell, I even read when I'm standing up going pee, although I often only get in .5-1 pages.

      I do all this to a lesser extent when I'm reading a paper book or magazine, but I can take it quite far when I'm reading electronically stored books on my PDA. Reading on a PDA is great- I love not having to flip pages. I can set JustReader+ to do auto-scroll, and while I'm standing there doing something manual and repetitive (like cutting up vegetables for dinner), I can read. With the PDA, I don't have to worry about flipping pages when my hands are dirty, keping a bookmark, or similar things. I don't have to worry about what I'll read next when I'm done- I typically have a few books in waiting on my PDA for when I do finish.

      Does anyone else do this, or am I that weird? :P

      I am not sure the purpose of this message- I know that reading with a PDA instead of a book isn't responsible for my fat-ness, so do not misinterpret it that way.

      Although yes, reading a book is a little less sedentary, if only because your brain is being engaged. Flipping pages isn't all that much more work than flipping channels, though. However, depending on your position, sometimes holding the reading material up in some place can be a titch more exercise. And, I swear, fighting with the damned news paper has gotta be something as well. :)

      While I watch no TV now, I used to watch more. TV is like a drug, and so many people throughout the US, Canada and elsewhere are addicted. I do not mean this as convenient metaphor. I have felt the changes that come about in my brain when parking my ass somewhere comfortable and watching TV for hours.

      I stopped watching TV for a number of reasons, a big one being that I don't like dealing with its schedule. My code, the book I'm reading, a nearby park- all things that don't require me to show up or pick up at a specific hour of the day. Having to remember to watch some certain channel at some certain time to see some show it way too much hassle. Not surprisingly, I also hate the drugged feeling of being a "couch potato."

      I think that drugged feeling should be investigated more by science- I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was some connection between that, eating more, and the commercials or television content.

      I wonder if most people notice this as well, or if they're simply too used to it to put a finger on it?

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  2. Recognizing by weight by TWX · · Score: 5, Funny

    It won't be able to recognize you by weight if it continues to do absolutely everything for you, like ordering food and changing the channel on the TV without requiring you to get up...

    I wonder if they built an AI into it to intelligently determine who the occupant is by weight gain over time...

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    1. Re:Recognizing by weight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      changing the channel on the TV without requiring you to get up...

      Most people can already do this. They use this amazing invention called a remote control.
    2. Re:Recognizing by weight by Worminater · · Score: 3, Funny

      What would the formula for that be though...?

      x = fast food, y = fat content, z = time unites, p = metabolizm.

      x * y - p * 3.14^z = weight gain

      now, when this couch starts getting serious use it would look something like...

      32 / .65 - .40 * 3.14^1u = much weight

      Now... The metabolizm would possibly go up as well as the fat content go down if u could also order pr0n through the same means... that would be a new varialbe p0...

    3. Re:Recognizing by weight by panaceaa · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Also, people's weight changes throughout the day. People eat, go to the bathroom, and also generally weigh more during the evening than average. Is the couch going to have a programmed clock for that?

      If I were a scientist, I'd try to identify people based on their butt prints!

    4. Re:Recognizing by weight by canajin56 · · Score: 4, Funny

      3.14? I always knew pi had something to do with weight gain, but I though that was only if you ate it.

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    5. Re:Recognizing by weight by justinstreufert · · Score: 2, Funny

      You "decided it was too risque" and yet I am reading it somehow... ;)

      Justin

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  3. Great idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Science: Pushing the boundaries of sloth, one invention at a time.

    1. Re:Great idea by panaceaa · · Score: 5, Funny

      A bit off-topic, but has anyone noticed that stores always call couches "sofas" and never "couches?" Examples: Ikea, Pottery Barn, Restoration Hardware, Crate & Barrel and even Walmart! When recently looking to buy a new couch, I couldn't find a major site that sold "couches."

      I think company's sell "sofas" because "couches" are perceived as things slothy people buy. Lazy people "lounge on the couch" on the weekends. The American culture always uses the word "couch" to describe unmotivated people's television watching habits.

      But in the eyes of marketers, consumers must see sofas as possessions of elegant, worldly people who are out and about. Motivated, outgoing people buy "sofas" to decorate their posh interiors! "No couches for me, sir, I want a sofa!"

  4. This particular model... by JasonMaggini · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...will be released as the La-Z-Homer 3000.

    1. Re:This particular model... by Throtex · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now with ass-groove memory!

  5. Weight fluctuates and people can weigh the same by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And is it really a good idea to have furniture that can positively ID you?

    1. Re:Weight fluctuates and people can weigh the same by Splat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Now I have an extra alibi.

      "Look at my Tivo usage logs - I was watching TV at that time!" and "Check the couch! The couch doesn't lie! But I was lying - on the couch!"

      Why hasn't Law & Order or any other cop show done an episode where a suspect is ruled out because they were watching Tivo at the time of the crime as proven by the logs on the PVR and his intelligent couch. Sheesh.

      In my perfect world you end that episode showing the super smart computer person putting a timer delay on a pronto remote control to simulate TV watching and stacking phone books on the couch to simulate sitting on it ... Muahaha...

  6. Intelligent couch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new sofa overlords.

    1. Re:Intelligent couch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      I, for one, welcome our repetitive +5 Funny template joke overlords ...

      Wait, no I don't.

  7. Inaccuracies in weight recognition? by zapp · · Score: 4, Funny

    So say I sit down with my backpack on may lap, it gets me wrong. Or if a kid/cat/dog jumps on my lap.

    Or kids jump on the couch and break it.

    Or 2 kids sit next to each other in the space it takes to fit me, and the TV tunes it to my favorite porn station

    or I lose a few pounds and it tunes me in to my wife's favorite shows...

    This sounds pretty crappy to me :)

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    1. Re:Inaccuracies in weight recognition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
      or I lose a few pounds and it tunes me in to my wife's favorite shows...

      Dude, if losing a few founds gets you to your wife's weight then you seriously need to bulk up or you are definitely closing your eyes when you get your nookie at night.

    2. Re:Inaccuracies in weight recognition? by tessaiga · · Score: 3, Funny
      or I lose a few pounds and it tunes me in to my wife's favorite shows...
      Not to worry, in most households a sofa like this would only last until the first time the wife gained a few pounds and it "recognized" her as you :)

      (Those Garfield comics where Garfield trashes the talking scale don't seem quite so farfetched now ...)

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    3. Re:Inaccuracies in weight recognition? by blibbleblobble · · Score: 2, Funny

      Clippy: "It looks as if a cat has just jumped onto your lap. Would you like me to open the catflap?"

  8. I hope this part is a joke... by rokzy · · Score: 2, Informative

    "order you take out food"

    this kind of automatic buying stuff (like MS .net services) is absolute bullshit and a million times more effort than it's worth.

  9. I'm not impressed. by mmoncur · · Score: 5, Informative

    So... it's an uncomfortable couch with a $10 digital scale built in?

    And they got on CNN? Obviously the rest of us just aren't trying hard enough.

    Real geeks don't want that couch, they want funny-looking ergonomic sofas or something with a built-in stereo and drink holder. ...or a couch made of mouse pads.

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  10. Read the article... by attemptedgoalie · · Score: 5, Informative

    Before many of you run amok, and make fun of heavy people, please read the article.

    It's in development, and has plans to be used to assist the elderly and those in hospitals.

    This is not some way to keep people indoors, or track their TV habits, or any of the other conspiracy baloney that will sure to be brought up soon.

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    1. Re:Read the article... by tho+1234 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I disagree. What it looks like is an examining bed with a few weight sensors interfaced to a computer (see the computer directly underneath "sofa") It can't do anything whatsoever, other than read off the weight and compare it to known users. There is absolutely no technology involved, and any highschool student could duplicate what they did in a month. (4 few sensors, hooked up to an A/D board, interfaced to a computer, program consiting of one if/else if stucture). Despite the total lack of innovation, the "developers" brainstormed up a list of possible applications, all of which are A) useless b) trivial to implement by anyone with experience in programming/EE. Assist elderly people? you have to be kidding- the example they site is sounding an alarm when the user leaves the chair, which is totally unreleated to the "talking sofa" they described earlier, and also incredibly easy to implement (could be done with 1 battery, 1 spring loaded switch, 1 buzzer) I can't believe this "invention" recieved national press coverage, go into any science fair/undergrad lab, and you will see far more innovative, complex, and useful devices.

    2. Re:Read the article... by jolshefsky · · Score: 4, Funny
      It's in development, and has plans to be used to assist the elderly and those in hospitals.
      Huh huh. You said "ass."
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  11. I don't get it. by John_McKee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OK, am I the only person that doesn't get it? First a side note, it isn't even a sofa, it is more like a old medical exam table, but I digress. Sofa's traditionally are for more than one occupant, so how would it deal with more than one person on it? Furthermore, ignoring the fact that it would be near impossible to get an accurate identity based only on the weight on a sofa, how is it really useful? My sofa knows I'm on it, what does it do for me? It can't really adjust any preferences for devices around me in a manner that is useful, I use my sofa for tons of diffrent uses, having guests over, reading, watching tv, surfing on my laptop, and all of those are would fail to benfit from my sofa knowing that I personally am on it. It just seems like the solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

    1. Re:I don't get it. by RajivSLK · · Score: 2, Funny

      It just seems like the solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

      Perfect. They can sell it on late night infomercials.

      Ron: Are you tired of turning on your own TV?
      Bimbo: Oh, Ron I hate that!
      Ron: How many times has this happened to you? [Actor on screen drops remote under the sofa and fumbles around while showing copious amounts of crack]
      Bimbo: Constantly! That is quality time out of your life that you will never get back!
      Ron: Then you need the Lay-Z-Homer 3000*

      and so on...

      *Borrowed from above.

  12. Now the wife isn't the only one to tell you to los by headbulb · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now the wife isn't the only one to tell you to lose weight.

    Just imagine watching the superbowl, when you pick up a chip. Only to have your couch tell you "Put down the chip chubby."

  13. ummm by bongobongo · · Score: 4, Funny

    i can see potential problems already.

    say i'm sitting on the couch... some loose change falls out of my pocket.... i get up...

    now the couch thinks my leperchaun is sitting there and plays the irish channel all day long. that would be so annoying.

  14. Re:Uh oh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Masturbating, of course.

  15. This is a huge improvement by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Funny

    from their prototype that required you to place a 12 ounce, specially modified bluetooth tranciever up your ass.

  16. "Hey Fatass..." by Fnkmaster · · Score: 4, Funny
    Log off of Slashdot and go down to the gym, then maybe I'll let you sit down and watch some tube.


    Great, just what I need.

  17. Here Goes Clippy by robbyjo · · Score: 4, Funny

    So say I sit down with my backpack on may lap, it gets me wrong.

    Clippy: So, you gain 20 pounds in just 2 days. Would you like to:

    [ ] Enroll as sumo wrestler (you are qualified now)

    [ ] Enroll in Taco Gym

    [ ] Cowboyneal!

    [ ] All of above

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  18. I've lost so much weight by dtfinch · · Score: 4, Funny

    Even my furniture says it hardly recognizes me.

  19. hello... by RedTyde · · Score: 2, Funny

    Having a sofa that says "Hello Bob" is all well and good. Right up until it starts saying "Hello Fat Cousin Rita" when you put on a few pounds over the holidays.

  20. Re:Now the wife isn't the only one to tell you to by Flower · · Score: 4, Funny
    Or sit down and find out the wife programmed it to say...
    "Get up and take out the trash like you said you were going to THREE DAYS AGO YOU WORTHLESS BUM!!"

    Or..
    "If I find another porno in the DVD player you're not getting any for a month!"

    Or..
    "Honey, I'm sorry but I'm leaving you for Mandingo. I hope you and your couch have a happy life together YOU LAZY SONOFABITCH!!"

    This could be bad. Very bad...

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  21. Not quite by tessaiga · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Before many of you run amok, and make fun of heavy people, please read the article. It's in development, and has plans to be used to assist the elderly and those in hospitals. This is not some way to keep people indoors, or track their TV habits, or any of the other conspiracy baloney that will sure to be brought up soon.
    I wouldn't put too much credibility in these "applications" just yet - I suspect this is what's known in the business world as having a solution, and fishing for a problem. As the project stands at the moment, there's no way this can be used in public spaces in hospitals or nursing homes, for the simple reason that weight isn't a sufficiently unique identifier. Once you have a large number of people using the couch, the probability of confusing two people of similar weight shoots through the roof.

    Nor would it be effective to place one in each room and use it to track patients, as the article suggests, unless (1) your facility had cash to burn, and didn't feel like looking into more cost-effective solutions, and (2) you were planning to enforce the policy that none of the patients/residents were allowed to leave the sofa.

    I suspect that this is more like one of those "Offbeat" stories they have at CNN every once in a while -- funny and cutesy in a "what will they think of next" kinda way, but not something you'll ever hear of again.

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  22. Re:I know how it would respond... by agwis · · Score: 3, Funny

    If I sat on it it would respond:

    "hey, one person at a time please!"

  23. weight catalog by picardsb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    yes - it will keep measuring how fast mr x keeps gaining weight. next it will also tell which doc to go to - maybe even call the doc (to write your death certificate). perfect recipie to make people more fat and stupid. wonder of mc daddy has something to do with it. 1st day; 150lb, day 10; 200lb - going good - day 30: your end is near, i'll order the your favourite quadruple cheese burger. makes me wonder who thought this up!

  24. Fit for the real world? by Barnoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My experience is that every member of our family has his dedicated seat and always sits on the same couch even when he/her is alone.

    Those lucky of you who live with your wife/girlfriend and have 'your own' couch, does your partner really use it when you are not there?

    Maybe a simple 'ass present' sensor would be sufficient..

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  25. Heh by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Your honor, I did it because my husband hacked the sofa to say 'whoah, one at a time!' whenever I sat down on it."

    "Judgement in favor of the defendent: Justifiable homicide."

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  26. Re:What if... by tessaiga · · Score: 3, Funny
    What if you weight the same weight as someone else who has the couch programmed? It orders you a pizza and has the fridge throw a beer at you also?
    So let's see ... I sit down on the couch, it serves me beer and pizza, and charges it to someone else?

    And this is a problem how, exactly? :)

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  27. butt print... by TWX · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, as unglamourous as a "butt print" is, it would be interesting to see if one can be identified by how one's pressure applies. Different parts push harder due to shape and posture, so if you happen to sit more on your left hip than on your right it should show...

    Let's just hope that the software doesn't create a visual 3d model of someone's ass as a rendered image. *shudder*

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    1. Re:butt print... by panaceaa · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If people can be identified to some degree by weight alone, I'm sure that having a pressure-sensitive map of someone's weight distribution (butt print) could only be more accurate. Also, you can learn something identifiable by how specific people slouch or lie down, how much they lean back, and other behavioral traits like antsiness. Though detecting these traits would be far more complicated than putting a scale under each pillow.

      Maybe the pillows wouldn't detect weight itself, but the shape of the imprentation using lots of small censors that detect motion. That motion could be integrated (calculus) to calculate their current position. The individual data points could be used together to figure out someone's current position, how their weight is distributed, and how much they move around over time. However, are there affordable censors that can do that? Alternatively, are there censors that can somehow know their absolute location rather than using calculus?

  28. Oh great, an electronic wife by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sofa: "Get the hell off me, you fat bastard!"

  29. Ding Dong! the doorbell rings.. by glassesmonkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    ..in from stage left walks the average Joe Husband.

    Cut to frame of just door handle.. hand reaches in from left of frame and turns handle.

    Door opens showing a delivery boy holding a pizza and asking, "Who ordered the large extra-cheese sausage?"

    Cut to close up of husband's face looking puzzled.. then turns to look over shoulder with a stern look of annoyance.

    Cut to full-frame shot of the three-section sofa.

    "COUCH!!!" comes a voice from off screen (ala Hogan's Heroes).. Cue the canned laugher from 80s sitcoms.

  30. lets use weight to recognize terrorists too by frovingslosh · · Score: 2, Funny
    and the scientists hope that it will one day be able to automatically tune to your favorite television programs

    Gee, maybe in just thirty or fourty years these scientists will figure out some way to interface their fantastic wonderful invention into an ordinary TV remote control! Even without the clue of using a biometric like weight to try to distinguish people, did anyone else get the feeling these sientists might not be the cream of the crop?

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  31. Maybe I'm missing something... by lelnet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...but I'm trying to figure out just what this feature would be good for.

    It's cool that a room can know who I am (to set the preferred lighting level or whatnot), but why should a couch care? To show me what I want to watch on TV? That's a pretty complex algorithm that's taken me weeks to more-or-less teach to my TiVO...I don't want to have to teach it to my couch too. I despair of ever having furniture that can guess when I'll want to eat (let alone what), since even my GF hasn't proven too adept at that task.

    What, other than "because it'd be cool to do", is the motivation for this project? (Not that being cool to do is a bad motivation...but it doesn't provide any reason for the rest of us to care.)

  32. Britany finds out it's time to diet: by rjamestaylor · · Score: 2, Funny
    • Greetings, Anna.
      Would you like a new box of chocolate cream puffs delivered to you now?
      Your reality show from last night is ready to view on the Tivo.
    Ok, that's it! Time to stop kissing Madonna and start kicking ASS!
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  33. There are better ways to identify users... by WoTG · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Umm... yeah, I think someone has spent too much time watching the Simpsons.

    Seriously, if we want music, lights, and the temperature to respond to who's in the room, aren't we better off with some voice recognition software? You and I have seen it on Star Trek - it looks like fun. =)

    Basic voice recognition would be feasible for this purpose. "Room, this is Joe. You know how I like it." Plus, there won't be nearly as many issues as this uncomfortable sofa will have. How is a sofa with a weight sensor supposed to know what to do when people are holding bags, or have just been to a buffet, or has a friend on the couch with them, or is jumping on the couch, or all of the above?

  34. Also converts automatically into casket by LazloToth · · Score: 2, Funny



    Detects extended period of inactivity. Comes complete with 8 liters of embalming fluid.

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  35. Re:That could be embarrasing.. by ptr2void · · Score: 3, Funny

    It would be even more embarassing if the three just sat down and the sofa greeted them "Hi Mike."

  36. ObSimpsons by sharkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh, I wish I had my reaching broom!
    --Homer

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  37. Application: Car seats by crow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Where this would be useful is remembering settings for car seats (and mirrors). Cars already do this using different codes on keys, but this might be a better mechanism.

    Still, as other people mentioned, it sounds like a solution in search of a problem.