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Microsoft Wins Summary Judgement in Smart Tag Case

dan2bit writes "Business Week reports that a judge in Wisconsin handed down a summary judgement today in favor of Microsoft, defending itself from a patent infringement suit brought by small fish Hyperphrase over the embedding of 'Smart Tags' in Microsoft Office. The suit also produced some amusing minutiae."

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  1. Remove the scurge from your webpages too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

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    1. Re:Remove the scurge from your webpages too by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are *NO* smart tags in Microsoft IE 6. They were stripped from the beta because of public outcry.

      Thus, that statement does absolutely nothing.

  2. Blame Unix by gulfan · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm sure that Microsoft will blame the delay on Unix Mailservers, while at the same time promote Exchange.

  3. Filing not late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pursuant to the modified scheduling order, the parties in this case had until June 25, 2003 to file summary judgment motions. Any electronic document may be e-filed until midnight on the due date. In a scandalous affront to this court's deadlines, Microsoft did not file its summary judgment motion until 12:04:27 a.m. on June 26, 2003, with some supporting documents trickling in as late as 1:11:15 a.m.

    The message WAS actually sent June 23, but the exchange server was down until the 25th.

  4. ... But was the courts clock accurate? by mdvolm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless the clock on the court's server was using NTP or equivalant, it probably was not completely accurate. Of course there is no mention of the clock's accuracy, but how can you make a judgement without this information?

    And anyway, it's four minutes and 27 seconds, c'mon!

    1. Re:... But was the courts clock accurate? by broken.data · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have been burned by banks clocks and the CCRA (Canadian Customs and Revenue Service) for filing my income tax 27 seconds late since their server was slow as hell.

      Tell me that 2% interest on $18,000 owing for that space of time is not going to piss you off. ($360 for the math impaired)

  5. Jokey Judge by Atario · · Score: 3, Funny
    Counsel used bolded italics to make their point, a clear sign of grievous iniquity by one's foe.


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  6. Obviously... by Bodrius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem is that the court has not upgraded to MS Time.

    In any case, good for the court on putting the ridiculousness of the situation in writing. I mean, if the litigators are going to disrespect the court by wasting its time with ridiculous motions, they may be obligated to follow along, but they can at least put their own disrespect for the litigants in evidence.

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  7. Prior art by bouvin · · Score: 5, Informative

    The concept behind SmartTags is hardly new - one well-known (at least in hypermedia research, which happens to be my area) example would be 'generic link' found in the Microcosm open hypermedia system, which was first published in Andrew M. Fountain, Wendy Hall, Ian Heath, Hugh C. Davis: MICROCOSM: An Open Model for Hypermedia with Dynamic Linking. ECHT 1990: 298-311.

    The generic link designates a link with a selection as source (this would in the simplest case be a string, but could be e.g. a image) and a specific destination. Thus, whereever the selection is encountered, there is a link to the destination. This functionality has been reimplemented a number of times in various open hypermedia systems.

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    1. Re:Prior art by ZoneGray · · Score: 2, Funny

      Prior art? Maybe, but why admit to it? I mean, I undertsand that suing Microsoft could be worth a bundle to a small company. Still, the idea that Microsoft got ideas for Office features from you... I mean, is that something you really want people to know about?

  8. Haha.. haha by EdMack · · Score: 2, Funny
    This really tore me up:
    four minutes and thirty seconds late
    I guess the litigator really should cut down on the caffine in the mornings

    On a more on-topic ms note, I just saw an add on /. by MS saying 'Find out how much easier we've made licensing our communications protocols'..
    We now have to pay to use a protocol? yuwah?
    Heres ya' link to it: http://m3.doubleclick.net/790463/mrs03124_ha_728x9 0_10.gif
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  9. After some by sodre · · Score: 2, Funny

    five minutes and twenty-seven seconds of my life wasted reading that stuff. I move to strike Hyperphrase's lawyers in the head for being so damn annoying.

  10. The judge left an extra surprise for them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Notice that the court listed the names of all the lawyers on the team that submitted that motion, so that any time someone does a lexus-type search for any one of those lawyers, that filing will come up, thus embarassing them for years to come. The court put some thought into that one.

  11. AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T USE ALL CAPS by LeBain · · Score: 3, Funny

    From Hyperphrase's motion to strike the summary judgment motion as untimely: Counsel used bolded italics to make their point, a clear sign of grievous iniquity by one's foe. AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T COMPAIN IN ALL CAPS!!!!! THAT REALLY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE JUDGE'S ATTENTION!!!!

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    1. Re:AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T USE ALL CAPS by FreeLinux · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Lawyers love all caps and they use them frequently on most legal documents. For some reason the law seems to think that being all caps makes the document even more binding than if they used lower case.

    2. Re:AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T USE ALL CAPS by odin53 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Lawyers use all caps in certain parts of legal documents because they believe that caps emphasizes whatever they capitalize. However, it's not random -- 99.9% of the time, the text that's capitalized is required or strongly suggested to be included in such a document by law or caselaw. It has little to do with making the document "binding."

      For those that argue that people just skip over the text because it's hard to read or it's like yelling, well, that's a silly argument, and no court would accept that as an excuse for avoiding the results of whatever the text said. The point is that the text is set off from the rest of the document -- if you skip it, you still noticed it, and it's your fault for skipping it.

      Think about it this way: you wouldn't argue that a warning siren is useless because it sounds really harsh, and naturally you put your hands over your ears to avoid hearing it, and therefore the warning siren doesn't actually do what it's supposed to do.

  12. Nothing to do with legality of software patent law by fredistheking · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Crabb agreed with Microsoft's argument that XML-based Smart Tags operate differently from Hyperphrase's methods and therefore aren't covered by the patents."

    When this issue originally came up many people were hoping that Microsoft might argue against the legality of software patents in general. They completely side stepped the issue. What's going to happen when Ogg gets sued by Fraunhofer and company?

  13. It's there if you can bear the rest... by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 4, Funny
    Granted, you have to wade through a lot of legal mumbo jumbo, but it was worth it for this:
    Before proceeding further, the Court notes that this case involves two extremely likable lawyers, who have together delivered some of the most amateurish pleadings ever to cross the hallowed causeway into Galveston, an effort which leads the Court to surmise but one plausible explanation. Both attorneys have obviously entered into a secret pact ? complete with hats, handshakes and cryptic words ? to draft their pleadings entirely in crayon on the back sides of gravy-stained paper place mats, in the hope that the Court would be so charmed by their child-like efforts that their utter dearth of legal authorities in their briefing would go unnoticed. Whatever actually occurred, the Court is now faced with the daunting task of deciphering their submissions.
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  14. Just what I needed by dbavirt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This was a chuckle and a half. I can't understand all you who think it was boring. Apparently the $5 and $10 words scared you off.

    I had never seen flyspeck used as a verb before...

  15. Microspect by McPLUR · · Score: 2, Funny

    Microsoft spokeswoman Stacy Drake hailed the ruling. "As an intellectual property company, we are committed to respecting the intellectual property of others, but we also invest heavily in R&D and we will defend our intellectual property when necessary,"

    She continued "We be payin props ta doz silly azz mofos intalectual propertiez, but they'ze disrespectin' ours. Whats up with that shiznat dogz?"

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  16. Re:ugh... by mvanhorn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe the judge should've used tags? I thought it was pretty funny, (maybe because I could imagine the opinion being read by one of John Cleese's characters.)

  17. This means war! by chosen_my_foot · · Score: 2, Funny

    They used bold italics?!?! Screw diplomacy! This is a full-on war!

  18. Patents bad. Even worse than Microsoft. by Thinkit3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Any defeat of a patent is good news.

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  19. Re:Isn't MS pro-software patent? by s20451 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Software patents are like nuclear weapons, their scare value is far superior to their actual use.

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  20. Re:Oh no the summary wasn't late by Bull999999 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I thought that many slashdotters want MS to win this case? I guess there's no way to stop slashdotters from bitching.

    If MS loses, they will bitch about stupid patent laws.

    IF MS wins, they will bitch about how courts always go for big businesses.

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  21. Judge Kent's Pigs by werdna · · Score: 5, Funny

    Judge Kent is bar far one of the funniest judges on the federal bench. I strongly comment a quick read of his opinion in this case, which concerned a motion drafted in crayon.

    1. Re:Judge Kent's Pigs by jonblaze · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, the briefs weren't drafted in crayon--that memorandum was just another example of Judge Kent bullying from the bench.

  22. Re:Lawyer humor by NOLAChief · · Score: 3, Funny
    Finally, a profession with a worse sense of humor than we engineers are accused of. From a Tulane American Society of Mechanical Engineers t-shirt: "You wish you were as cool...AS-ME."

    Groan...I'm switching majors. Or shooting myself.

  23. Your court's clock may not be accurate! by BigRedFish · · Score: 5, Funny

    Would you like to download PrecisionTime from the Gator Corporation?

    [Yes] [OK] [Sure]

  24. You missed the conclusion! by JediTrainer · · Score: 2, Funny

    After this remarkably long walk on a short legal pier, having received no useful guidance whatever from either party, the Court has endeavored, primarily based upon its affection for both counsel, but also out of its own sense of morbid curiosity, to resolve what it perceived to be the legal issue presented. Despite the waste of perfectly good crayon seen in both parties' briefing (and the inexplicable odor of wet dog emanating from such) the Court believes it has satisfactorily resolved this matter. Defendant's Motion for Summary Judgment is GRANTED.

    At this juncture, Plaintiff retains, albeit seemingly to his befuddlement and/or consternation, a maritime law cause of action versus his alleged Jones Act employer, Defendant Unity Marine Corporation, Inc. However, it is well known around these parts that Unity Marine's lawyer is equally likable and has been writing crisply in ink since the second grade. Some old-timers even spin yarns of an ability to type. The Court cannot speak to the veracity of such loose talk, but out of caution, the Court suggests that Plaintiff's lovable counsel had best upgrade to a nice shiny No. 2 pencil or at least sharpen what's left of the stubs of his crayons for what remains of this heart-stopping, spine-tingling action.

    In either case, the Court cautions Plaintiff's counsel not to run with a sharpened writing utensil in hand -- he could put his eye out.

    IT IS SO ORDERED.

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  25. midnight means midnight by penguin7of9 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I fail to see the reason for sarcasm. Yes, it sounds like in this case, punctuality may not have mattered. But in other cases, the difference between 11:59pm and 12:01am could be billions of dollars.

    When a court sets a deadline, people should be expected to stick to it. If, in this case, the court decided that it wanted to ignore its own deadline, that's its choice. But would have been perfectly acceptable and entirely reasonable for it to throw out any documents submitted even a second late.

  26. Re:Oh no the summary wasn't late by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Informative

    "If MS loses, they will bitch about stupid patent laws."

    Microsoft has quite the double standard here on Slashdot. Everybody wants MS punished. They want to see MS hurt. Unfortunately, it is rare that anybody puts any thought into the consequences of punishing Microsoft. Just like you brought up here, it was probably better for Microsoft to win instead of lose. When the Blaster worm made its rounds, people here were saying "Why isn't Microsoft being held liable?" Sounds great, doesn't it? Make Microsoft pay for their 'negligence'. Never mind that somebody was getting away with being a malicious asshole and Microsoft was being punished for it, no no no, Microsoft should be punished for not being pyschic and predicting that an exploit would be.. uh. exploited. If Microsoft were to be liable for defects like that, then in all fairness, individuals of the OSS Community would risk being liable for somebody else's malicious use. So, in short, Linux could find itself vulernable to whatever punishment is dealt to Microsoft in a case like that.

    Be careful about what you wish for. If you want Microsoft to be punished, that's perfectly okay, just be careful that they don't get punished in a way that burns you.

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  27. RTFA!!! by Galvatron · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Yes, that is what the judge thought, too. Do you need reading comprehension lessons or something? Allow me to quote:

    Wounded though this court may be by Microsoft's four minute and twenty-seven second dereliction of duty, it will transcend the affront and forgive the tardiness. Indeed, to demonstrate the even-handedness of its magnanimity, the court will allow Hyperphrase on some future occasion in this case to e-file a motion four minutes and thirty seconds late, with supporting documents to follow up to seventy-two minutes later.

    The judge is forgiving Microsoft for filing late, and is basically telling Hyperphrase to stop being a pain in the ass.

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  28. Sarcasm alert by CalCudahy · · Score: 2, Informative
    Um, I don't think you get the joke. He was being sarcastic at the Hyperphase guys for throwing a hissy fit over Microsoft being four minutes late.

    Wounded though this court may be by Microsoft's four minute and twenty-seven second dereliction of duty, it will transcend the affront and forgive the tardiness. Indeed, to demonstrate the even-handedness of its magnanimity, the court will allow Hyperphrase on some future occasion in this case to e-file a motion four minutes and thirty seconds late, with supporting documents to follow up to seventy-two minutes later.

    Having spent more than that amount of time on Hyperphrase's motion, it is now time to move on to the other Gordian problems confronting this court. Plaintiff's motion to strike is denied.

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  29. The judge's decision was outrageous. by ArsSineArtificio · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I've clerked for a federal magistrate, and written several orders granting or denying summary judgment, and I found the order extremely surprising. Microsoft was moving for summary judgment, which is a basically a legal determination that it is so obvious that Microsoft will win that the case shouldn't even bother to proceed. As makes sense, the burden of proof is on Microsoft to have a really good reason for claiming this, and the court should be reluctant to grant it.


    Generally speaking, any irregularity should make the court even more reluctant to grant summary judgment. The judge here granted summary judgment even after acknowledging that Microsoft was too late to file - and mocked the plaintiffs for objecting at all! I would expect that Hyperphrase is going to be filing their appeal to the district judge in the very near future.


    The judge is forgiving Microsoft for filing late, and is basically telling Hyperphrase to stop being a pain in the ass.


    Deadlines exist for a reason. If there weren't definite rules for when and in what order things needed to happen in litigation, the courts would be much more inefficient, and people in court would be denied their constitutional right to due process. Yeah, it's funny that Microsoft filed five minutes late - but there's a big difference between some prisoner struggling to represent himself who files five minutes late, and an enormous multinational corporation with gigantic legal resources doing the same thing. A wink and a nod is inappropriate here.

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  30. Ogg and patents by steveha · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ogg is a container format. As far as I know, no one is seriously claiming patent protection on the idea of a container format.

    Vorbis is a codec that does the same job as MP3 (only better). The Ogg guys worked very hard, with lawyers vetting the code at each stage of development, to make darn sure that no patents apply to anything in Vorbis. It would have been done a lot sooner if they hadn't had to do this.

    Theora is a video codec, based on a video codec called VP3. The guys who developed VP3, On2, have patents that cover VP3, and they signed a complete and irrevokable release to allow Theora to be completely free software. I think Theora is what you were thinking of.

    And the Ogg code is available under a BSD license, to speed the adoption by commercial entities. Originally they were using LGPL but enough people were worried about viral IP issues that they went to the BSD license.

    <pedantic>
    And it's codec or codecs, not codex. A codex is a book.
    </pedantic>

    Want to know more? Check out the Ogg page at xiph.org.

    steveha

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