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The Weak Signal Challenge - Decode and Win $100

superid writes "Several years ago while reading comp.dsp I found a link to The Weak Signal Challenge. On that page is a .wav file of a morse code signal bounced off the moon. The page author Mike Cook is offering $100 to the next person to successfully decode the morse code. Since I was the one who originally solved this, I promised Mike that I wouldn't divulge the answer or provide any clues. I can say thought that I didn't use anything special other than traditional signal processing techniques, octave, matlab, and patience. I think that overall I spent about 24 hours total sitting at my '486. I think it would be great to generate some interest in this. Maybe someone could come up with a novel solution and win $100!"

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  1. Partial translation by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 5, Funny

    It starts out, "ALL YOUR BA--"

    I'll finish up translating the rest tomorrow.

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    1. Re:Partial translation by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      It starts out, "ALL YOUR BA--"....I'll finish up translating the rest tomorrow.

      The complete message is: "ALL YOUR BAD JOKES GET YOU MODDED DOWN".

    2. Re:Partial translation by kurosawdust · · Score: 4, Funny
      "Be...sure...to...drink...your....Ovaltine?!?"

      Cripes! It's a crummy commercial!

    3. Re:Partial translation by Dorothy+86 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I, for one, welcome our new bad joke overlords.

  2. The joke's on you, Gary. by xenoweeno · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is nothing more than a recording of a McDonald's drive-through speaker.

  3. $100??!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    sorry, i don't work that cheaply.

    1. Re:$100??!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No - but I bet your sister does ....

  4. Easy money by calcifer · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I think that overall I spent about 24 hours total sitting at my '486." With my Intel Pentium II processor, with the power to make the internet come alive, i should be able to complete the problem in one tenth the time of your 486! and since this is multimedia, my MMX processor should really speed things up!

  5. Code Broke by CherniyVolk · · Score: 5, Funny


    "This should send the guys at SETI on a wild goose chase."

    1. Re:Code Broke by c_oflynn · · Score: 3, Informative

      BTW, on the page it DOES mention that the code is a call-sign, so for people suggesting that its some odd thing ("Eat at Joe's", etc)... RTFA (unless its slashdotted).

  6. motivation? by mlush · · Score: 2

    I would be interested in the motivation behind the challange, its clearly not a 'how good are your ear' challange as the first winner used a computer. Does he hope to boost some obscure area of signal processing or just hand out $100 just for the fun of it?

    1. Re:motivation? by mlush · · Score: 2, Funny
      Well, there's one guy who set the competition, and there's one guy who won it, and is telling is.
      And then there's you.

      Is this another compertition to extract meaning from obscure data???

  7. Interesting that he mentioned the '486 :) by JessLeah · · Score: 4, Funny

    On a gamer forum, mentioning a '486 would get you laughed out in about ten seconds.
    On a non-technical forum, mentioning a '486 would get a bunch of (the digital equivalents of) blank stares.
    On SlashDot, only a couple of people think it's anything out of the ordinary...

    It would seem that the Internet has a wide variety of computing cultures ;)

    1. Re:Interesting that he mentioned the '486 :) by tomakaan · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah. He'd only get the blank stares if he mentioned he was using Windows ;)

  8. Translated Message by Herkum01 · · Score: 4, Funny

    50 SWM, seeking 30-40 SWF for laughs and good times. Please contact me at XXX-XXX-XXXX.

  9. Who needs Matlab? I can hear the morse code beeps by joshv · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can clearly hear the morse code beeps. With some head phones (if I knew morse code) - I could decode this using only the world's most powerful real-time signal processing and pattern recognition device - the human brain.

    -josh

  10. How to deal with weak signals: by WegianWarrior · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe someone could come up with a novel solution...

    Turn the volume up - a lot.

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  11. Not given it away? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I promised Mike that I wouldn't divulge the answer or provide any clues. I can say thought that I didn't use anything special other than traditional signal processing techniques, octave, matlab, and patience.

    Why, you've given it all away! I can tell that since you mentioned traditional signal processing techniques that the answer is clearly not in the neural network in front of you but being that you know that I know you're a Sicilian you obviously wouldn't put it in a simple band pass filter in front of me! Aha ha...Aha ha ha *clunk*

  12. It says.... by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    "Stop! Your radio waves are killing our moon babies! First it was Country Music, and now this."

  13. Re:Who needs Matlab? I can hear the morse code bee by c_oflynn · · Score: 4, Informative

    Umm.. thats not quite the point. The page says this:

    Do you think you are good at copying weak signals? Well here's a test for you. I am posting a zipped 1 minute wav file of a VERY weak EME station calling me. I am offering $100 and a free copy of the FFTDSP42 to the first person who can tell me the call sign of the calling station. The signal is strong enough to just copy my call (AF9Y) near the middle of the 1 min period. The mystery station is sending a simple repeat of his call and my call. The characters "DE" may or may not be between the two calls.

    So you CAN hear one of the call-signs... its harder than just listening carefully. Otherwise it would make no sense.

  14. WTF? by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 4, Funny

    You spent 24 hours trying to win $100?

    Dude, you could make more than that working at Wendy's.

    - A.P.

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  15. "Do you want fries with that?" by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is nothing more than a recording of a McDonald's drive-through speaker.

    It is the repetion in the message that allows humans to know what they are really saying. Thus, we hear, "Vu Vu Von Vie Vih Vah", and know from prior experience that they are saying, "Do you want fries with that?" Otherwise, I often would not know what the hell they are saying.

  16. Don't forget... by CritterNYC · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... to drink your Ovaltine.

  17. moon messages by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny


    Reminds me of story somebody told me once, but I have yet to verify it.

    During preparations for the Apollo moon missions, some members of NASA were sent out to record greetings messages from various communities to be included on a recording that was to be left on the moon by the astronauts.

    After visiting a Native American tribe, one Native American man refused to tell NASA what he had just said into the recorder in his native tongue. So, they eventually found a translator, and the message said something like, "Watch out for these guys. They will take your land too. Explorers, my ass".

    1. Re:moon messages by plone · · Score: 2, Informative

      False. Seriously man, is it really necessary to spread such bullshit urban myths when 2 seconds at Snopes shows that it is fake? Oh wait, I guess you must be one of those people that believes that a litre of Coke will dissolve a steak in 2 days.

  18. What I would do. by geekee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd assume the beeps are a single tone. Run a fourier xform on the signal and look for any dominant tones (peaks) in the spectrum. Once the frequency is known, run the signal through a narrow band filter at that frequency to eliminate the noise. After that the tones should be recognizable enough to decode by ear.

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  19. Re:I'm sure it will say by ScottSpeaks! · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Watson come here, I want you."

  20. Re:Who needs Matlab? I can hear the morse code bee by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here: Morse Code info.

    Now all you need is a pair of headphones. I'm sure you can find a decent pair for less than $100 and make some quick money.

    Try it. I'm betting it's harder than it sounds, but hey: people's hearing does vary. You might just be good at this.

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  21. Re:Time Worth... by ryanw · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Damn though, somehow I think if I end up doing this my time will come out being worth about $0.05 an hour... all for the fun of it ;-)
    Well, thats still more then something like counterstrike or equiv can offer. Pay $40 for the game, play for hundreds of hours, and get nothing back in return except for a few broken mice, carpal tunnel, blood shot eyes, etc.
  22. Reminds me... by gbooker · · Score: 2, Informative

    For my senior design project, we had to make some dedicated hardware to exactly this. It was solved using an FFT inside a Vertex-II Pro FPGA using a sliding window.

    Now, as far as this contest goes, this can be done quite easilly in a computer. In fact, we had made a bitwise simulation of the FPGA using matlab before doing any Verilog to make sure that our design worked. My favorite was the little setup that we did in LabView. Took about 30 minutes to make, and would solve this quite easilly. It was very nice to see the result in color intensity with frequency along the x axis, and time across the y. Seeing the data in there was quite easy even though the SNR was so low that you couldn't even hear most of the tones.

    In short, if you want to do this, read the data into matlab (or octive), do an FFT on a small window of the data, slide the window over, repeat. Take all the FFT's and plot in an intenisty graph (not sure what the matlab term is, but I am sure it has such a thing).

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  23. Re:Money well earned. by kfg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, but Wal-Mart doesn't let you stock shelves in your underwear while eating Doritos and chugging Mountain Dew.

    No, I don't want to talk about it.

    KFG

  24. i downloaded the zip by wmaker · · Score: 2, Funny

    i downloaded the "zip" file and ran mplayer on it... it's BITTERSWEET by FUEL... WTF

  25. Re:Who needs Matlab? I can hear the morse code bee by Ceadda · · Score: 2

    **I call bullcrap. You listening to 3 seconds of it instaltly make you an expert ** Well, he's right. I also can clearly hear the dots and beeps in that file, with nothing more than turning up the treble amp on a pair of laptop speakers. Three other "witnesses" in the room with me at the time can also hear it just fine. And yes, we listened to the whole thing. Doesnt sound like a very long message. Since I've got better things to do with my time than jot it all down and translate it, I'll leave it to someone who actually has to work to earn the $100, not someone who can hear it. PS. You know those "unhearable, ultrasonic" pest repeller things? I know 5 people, inluding myself, who can hear those damn things ticking :p

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