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New Pentium 5 Details - 5-7ghz?
zymano writes "This article gives some details on Pentium 5. It will have 64 bit extensions and maybe a 4000 mhz frontside bus. Quote from the article,'The Pentium V is likely to fly along at between 5GHz to 7GHz, have 2MB plus of level two cache, be built on a 90 nanometer process, and have a stackable design. '"
Is it me or would you pronounce that "Nail 'em"? A dig at AMD perhaps?
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... will it be able to do Math correctly?
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'The Pentium V is likely to fly along at between 5GHz to 7GHz, have 2MB plus of level two cache, be built on a 90 nanometer process, and have a stackable design. ' And raise the temperature of the room it's in by 50 Celsius.
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The chip will sample internally at Intel in January 2004 and will take between four to six months to get to market. The Pentium 6 will follow a very similar schedule.
The Pentium V is likely to fly along at between 5GHz to 7GHz, have 2MB plus of level two cache, be built on a 90 nanometer process, and have a stackable design.
The processor we believe, sits in the LGA 775 pin socket, and above it is a very thin heatsink. But, according to sources close to the firm's plans, another permeable heatsink can sit between this and another microprocessor module, giving a stackable design.
The final design of this arrangement is not set in stone.
According to this source, and the details have not been confirmed, a module sitting on top could provide 64-bit extensions.
And the source claimed, Microsoft is ready to launch a version of Windows called Elements with 64-bit extensions.
The idea seems to be that people can buy a 32-bit module, and then add in the 64-bit processor.
There are three samples of an arrangement of the Pentium V here in Taiwan this week, with a very thin processor and lots of wires and patches stuck on it, just to show proof of concept.
The Pentium V could have a front side bus speed of as much as 4000MHz, the source claimed, although this may be reserved for the next chip along, the Nehalem.
Looks good for your age..
This article is all speculation...
Ok here, um the next AMD processors will be faster than before, have more cache, maybe some new instructions [doworkNow! then doworkNow! (ext)].
I must be an AMD insider now, l33t l33t !
Tom
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Stackable designs sound really cool in the sense that you can cut latency between processors (for things like cache coherence) to rediculously small levels, but what about cooling? Cooling ability is roughly proportional to surface area, and two stacked chips will make twice as much heat but have almost the same surface area as only one (as two sides cancel out). This has to be a problem.
No this is not a troll. I honestly wonder how they expect to accomplish this.
Anyone know?
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Justin
I still prefer AMD chips for some reason.
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but will actually perform the same as a 2.5 GHz Athlon
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The article doesn't say the processor will have 64-bit extensions. The article doesn't say anything.
Some quotes:
"The Pentium V is likely..."
"The processor we believe..."
"The final design of this arrangement is not set in stone."
"...details have not been confirmed,..."
"... the source claimed..."
"The Pentium V could have..."
"...although this may be reserved for the next chip along, the Nehalem"
This isn't news, this is BS speculation.
I swear that the PIV 2.4 Ghz machines I've used are no faster that some of the P III 1 Ghz boxes I've used. We upgraded all our development boxes at work this way and there was hardly any notable improvement... yes, the memory is tricked out so we're not having swapping issues. But you run apache, mysql, and X on one of them and it just doesn't seem like an improvement.
Are they doing a direct trade off where they ramp up the clockspeed and break the instructions down so that less is getting done per clock or something?
Cheers.
There's no point in raising the speed of the processor to 5GHz if the memory speed (esp. latency) can't keep pace.
4GHz front-side bus? Yeah, right.
P-V should have 64bit extensions for both pointers and basic math.
64bit pointers and basic math on those pointers, are really what people desire so that more than 4GB can be trivially addressed in a single process's virtual memory space. Think about people who want to manipulate a video file that is larger than 4GB.
AltiVEC **128 bit** is just wide data manipulation and is of no use for those that require large memory footprints. It has the same 32 bit address lines and pointers at a 60MHz Pentium I.
That being said, P-V should also have more than the current 36 bit of physical address lines. I'm guessing they will have 40 usable bits or so of the address bus to physically address memory.
So if you want to put in more than 4GB of RAM you can. But if you don't, 64 bits will be useful to address more than 4GB of a video file sitting in virtual memory.
Windows will certainly get just as bloated and suck down all that speed and power. That's how it has always been, and always will be.
I'm waiting for the day that Microsoft Windows GUI will be fully raytrace/radiosity/photon map rendered.
I won't be happy unless I have a glass refracting mouse cursor made up of at least 64,000 triangles, updating at no less than 60fps. It had better be casting both a shadow and also focused light complete with chromatic aberation.
That'll show those OSX zealots!
War crimes, torture, lies, illegal spying... Would someone give Bush a blowjob, already, so he can be impeached?
If you can find room to rest a kettle on the die, yes.
I agree. The numbers are impressive but is this going to be like the CDRW wars where you can get 52x but cd's explode at 50something. It is kind of getting rediculous.
The traces do act like a waveguide with no sides. Just a top and bottom to propagate the wave. The problem is fringing effects. That is why its such an accomplishment when they move the spacing closer and closer.
I've noticed that the only time i see significant improvement of a processor is when the cache is larger or bus speed is faster.
Maybe Intel should look into creating a 4Ghz processor with 4Ghz bus and a ton of cache. Because you could do calculations at 7Ghz but if you can only move data at 4Ghz... your only running at 4.
Correct me if im wrong.
Can you name the OS with four wheel drive, smells like a steak and seats thirty-five..
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Well, it goes real slow with the Pentium down, It's the operating system endorsed by a clown!
Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero!
[Bill Gates:] Hey Hey
The Linux Users' commission has ruled the Canyonero unsafe for WAN or LAN use.
Canyonero!
12 gigs long, 2 gigs wide,
65 tons of Windows Pride!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Top of the line in crash reports,
Unexplained reboots are a matter of course!
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