Posted by
ryuzaki0
on from the please-be-polite dept.
AndyFewt writes "TheRegister has an article on the latest form of SCO FUD, their Roadshow. Funded by HP and kicking off on Oct. 7, SCO users throughout the U.S. and Canada can get their chance to go show Darl just how much they "love" SCO. But of course, Linux users are free to attend."
FAQ on SCO and Linux
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 4, Informative
I have posted an FAQ on the SCO vs Linux controversy, designed for use by Penguinistas at SCO's road show. Pass it out to others at the meeting, or to the press. See:
http://home.swbell.net/mck9/sco/
This FAQ focuses on the legal viability of Linux, and on the likelihood that SCO will succeed at bullying the rest of the industry. (Warning: I am not a lawyer.) I have tried to avoid the name calling and inflammatory rhetoric that would be offputting to those not accustomed to Slashdot culture.
Re:Sponsored by HP !?!?!??!?!?
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MarcDuflot
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I just looked at Sco's site. It doesn't say anything about HP sponsoring. Perhaps this was a mistake of The Register.
I read the article at The Register yesterday and looked at the page at SCO. There was a logo about HP sponsoring.
It was removed since then.
Re:Slashdot Press
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mr_sas
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· Score: 2, Informative
you mean articles about american cable companies prices? that sort of thing?
or about how some guy is connecting to the internet in the middle of australia?
I agree more of this type of world changing news should be posted more often
Re:A delicate question to US readers
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phrostie
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There have been a number of articles that paint McB' as a perfect mormon. most of these articles have been in local papers(saltlake etc). they read like a press release. they have stayed a hair away from proclaiming this whole mess as an anti-mormon struggle and SCO/Canopy as the second coming. who after all are just trying to keep jobs for other good mormons. most US papers/news services do not recirculate these stories. i've worked with enough mormons to know that they are not all this way, so i'm glad the sories are not circulated. it would be a dis-service.
Re:A delicate question to US readers
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Mephie
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That's a good question.. I didn't know his religious affiliation, or even that he had one, until now. For the purposes of my theory on this, one could just as easily substitute "Mormon" for any other non-Catholic/Christian belief, such as Shin-tao, Athiest, or the current hot bed, Muslim.
Religion is an extremely touchy matter in the States. Depending on the matter in which that information was introduced, it would be very easy for any journalist to appear to be "branding" Mormons based on the McBride model.
The more.. how to put this delicately.. "unconventional" the general view of said religion, the more likely it becomes that you'd see backlash. Additionally, I'd wager most Americans don't know much about the Mormon faith. I personally do not. If we assume this to be true (it's a safe assumption.. Most Americans are very zealous about our own religion and avoid studying any other religions), then the vast majority of what the general population knows about Mormons, or any non-highly publicized religion, then, comes from what we "learn" on TV. So the danger of branding the religion becomes greater.
Ultimately, though, his religious affiliation would theoretically not make a difference in the business world, so religion would be irrelavant (much like there wasn't much said about the religious affiliation of Ken Lay, the Enron guy). The only time America seems to (openly) care about the religion of an individual is if they're a religious extremist or a politician. How's that for separation of church and state?
City:
Toronto, ON October 7, 8:30am Toronto Congress Centre
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Boston, MA October 9, 8:30am Renaissance Boston Bedford Hotel
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Chicago, IL October 15, 8:30am Indian Lakes Resort
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Vancouver, BC October 21, 8:30am Radisson President Hotel & Suites Vancouver Airport
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Dallas, TX October 23, 8:30am Marriott Dallas/Ft. Worth Airport
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Orlando, FL October 29, 8:30am Renaissance Orlando Hotel Airport
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Newark, NJ October 8, 8:30am Sheraton Newark Airport Hotel
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Minneapolis, MN October 14, 8:30am Minneapolis Airport Marriott
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St. Louis, MO October 16, 8:30am Radisson Hotel Clayton
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Irvine, CA October 22, 8:30am Marriott Irvine
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Atlanta, GA October 28, 8:30am Marriott Century Center
Counteracting the FUD
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Kazir
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Linux users are free to attend."
The best thing to do for counteracting their FUD is to have people hand out free disks of Linux at the roadshow and demo Linux. They probably won't allow this inside, but there's always the sidewalks.
Dee-Ann LeBlanc on O'Reilly Network has been making some good points about this:
Looks like they will be sueing SGI according to this filing.
We recently received a notice from SCO Group stating its intention to terminate our fully paid license to certain UNIX-related code, under which we distribute our IRIX operating system, on the basis that we have breached the terms of such license. We believe that the SCO Group's allegations are without merit and that our fully paid license is nonterminable.
Re:Sponsored by HP !?!?!??!?!?
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hackstraw
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The SCO page says its sponsered by Microlite, which appears to be backup solutions for SCO products (and Linux).
Doesn't everyone remember that HP was the main sponser of the SCO 2003 forum in Las Vegas, but they backed out because of the SCO linux licensing. You can read about it here.
The language of the article is poor, and the paragraph after it says HP is the sponsor implies so merely because HP is protecting its customers.
If you follow the link to the SCO site, they say it is sponsored by Microlite (the logo on this page is the same as the one on the SCO page).
4 stories a day? BWAHAHAHA
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TrentC
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As someone who's actually interested in the SCO proceedings (I mean, if I wasn't I'd just uncheck the "Caldera" box in my user prefs, right?) This is the "4 times a day" schedule to date this month:
SCO's Roadshow Coming Soon (On September 30th, 2003 with 231 comments) Ransom Love, Caldera Co-Founder Interviewed (On September 26th, 2003 with 237 comments) IBM Adds SCO Counterclaim Charging Copyright Infringement (On September 26th, 2003 with 738 comments) SCO's Plan Examined (On September 25th, 2003 with 576 comments) HP Clarifies Indemnification Offer For Linux Users (On September 24th, 2003 with 274 comments) HP Offers Linux Purchasers Indemnification (On September 24th, 2003 with 326 comments) Groklaw Sends A Dear Darl Letter (On September 20th, 2003 with 268 comments) SCO Claims $15,300,000 From SCOsource (On September 16th, 2003 with 404 comments) SCO Volleys to Red Hat (On September 16th, 2003 with 469 comments) More on SCO Code Snippets (On September 14th, 2003 with 339 comments) Linus to SCO: 'Please Grow Up' (On September 11th, 2003 with 1163 comments) Back To SCO (On September 10th, 2003 with 560 comments) ESR to Shred SCO Claims? (On September 9th, 2003 with 554 comments) SCO's Open Letter to Open Source Community (On September 9th, 2003 with 724 comments) SCO Run-Time Licenses: Get 'em While They're Hot! (On September 8th, 2003 with 587 comments) More Criticism of SCO's Claims To UNIX (On September 6th, 2003 with 400 comments) SCO's Next Target: SGI? (On September 5th, 2003 with 338 comments)
17 whole stories. Throw in two or three Slashbacks or Ask Slashdots to make it a round number, and we have 20 stores in 30 days. Now, let's look at August. I mean, maybe the frenzied stories have been dying down:
SCO Roundup (On August 30th, 2003 with 471 comments) SCO Says It Has No Plan To Sue Linux Companies ( On August 28th, 2003 with 478 comments) SCO DOS Harming Innocent Bystanders (On August 28th, 2003 with 422 comments) SCO Says IBM is Beating Up on Them (On August 22nd, 2003 with 1133 comments) SCO: Code Proof Analyzed, Linus Interviewed (On August 20th, 2003 with 890 comments) Samba Team Points Out SCO's Hypocrisy (On August 20th, 2003 with 612 comments) Open Source Community Approaches SCO (On August 19th, 2003 with 521 comments) SCO: FSF Reply To GPL Claims, Conference Sponsors Back Off? (On August 18th, 2003 with 580 comments) RMS on SCO, Distributions, DRM (On August 17th, 2003 with 711 comments) OSDL Releases Q&A on SCO Legal Actions (On August 14th, 2003 with 285 comments) SCO Attorney Declares GPL Invalid (On August 14th, 2003 with 1137 comments) SCO Announces Final Termination of IBM's Licence (On August 13th, 2003 with 807 comments) SCO Execs Dumping Stock (On August 12th, 2003 with 691 comments) FSF, GCC, and SCO Compiler Support (On August 12th, 2003 with 525 comments) SCO: Fortune 500 Company Buys License, IBM Retort (On August 11th, 2003 with 557 comments) SCO Calls IBM Countersuit "Unsubstantiated Allegations" (On August 8th, 2003 with 972 comments) IBM Countersues SCO, And More! (On August 7th, 2003 with 1156 comments) SCO Targets US Government, TiVo (On August 6th, 2003 with 1539 comments) SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems (On August 5th, 2003 with 1659 comments) SCO "Disappointed" by Red Hat Lawsuit (On August 5th, 2003 with 778 comments) Red Hat Sues SCO, Sets Up Legal Fund (On August 4th, 2003 with 787 comments) OSDL Position Paper on SCO and Linux (On August 1st, 2003 with 421 comments)
Hmm, a little bit better, 21 stories in 31 days. And we've got some of the juicy nuggets of the story to date, so far.
Because./ posting seems not like lots of short lines, I'll just summarize the first months of the SCO/IBM lawsuit: 6(!) stories in July, 14 in June and 5(!) stories for May.
63 stories in 153 days =.41 stories per day. Why, that's not even 1 story every other day! If you wanted to be ge
HP has not bought a SCO Source license. Sun has, for $7.5 million and counting. See the 10-Q's.
HP has not acquired warrants to buy stock in SCO, and Sun has. See the 10-Q's.
If there's any evidence that HP is supporting SCO, it's not showing up in SCO's 10-Q's.
HP decreased its existing support of SCO since SCO filed suit this year. HP pulled its sponsorship of SCO Forum, and I don't think they are not sponsors of this road show. SCO keeps trying to use HP's logo, but HP keeps making them stop.
Sun increased its existing support of SCO, and then lied about it. Sun tried to push the story that they paid up their license years ago, when in fact they were buying a secret license in February 2003.
Slashdot Mirror
I have posted an FAQ on the SCO vs Linux controversy, designed for use by Penguinistas at SCO's road show. Pass it out to others at the meeting, or to the press. See:
http://home.swbell.net/mck9/sco/
This FAQ focuses on the legal viability of Linux, and on the likelihood that SCO will succeed at bullying the rest of the industry. (Warning: I am not a lawyer.) I have tried to avoid the name calling and inflammatory rhetoric that would be offputting to those not accustomed to Slashdot culture.
I read the article at The Register yesterday and looked at the page at SCO. There was a logo about HP sponsoring. It was removed since then.
or about how some guy is connecting to the internet in the middle of australia?
I agree more of this type of world changing news should be posted more often
There have been a number of articles that paint McB' as a perfect mormon. most of these articles have been in local papers(saltlake etc). they read like a press release. they have stayed a hair away from proclaiming this whole mess as an anti-mormon struggle and SCO/Canopy as the second coming. who after all are just trying to keep jobs for other good mormons.
most US papers/news services do not recirculate these stories.
i've worked with enough mormons to know that they are not all this way, so i'm glad the sories are not circulated. it would be a dis-service.
Religion is an extremely touchy matter in the States. Depending on the matter in which that information was introduced, it would be very easy for any journalist to appear to be "branding" Mormons based on the McBride model.
The more .. how to put this delicately .. "unconventional" the general view of said religion, the more likely it becomes that you'd see backlash. Additionally, I'd wager most Americans don't know much about the Mormon faith. I personally do not. If we assume this to be true (it's a safe assumption.. Most Americans are very zealous about our own religion and avoid studying any other religions), then the vast majority of what the general population knows about Mormons, or any non-highly publicized religion, then, comes from what we "learn" on TV. So the danger of branding the religion becomes greater.
Ultimately, though, his religious affiliation would theoretically not make a difference in the business world, so religion would be irrelavant (much like there wasn't much said about the religious affiliation of Ken Lay, the Enron guy). The only time America seems to (openly) care about the religion of an individual is if they're a religious extremist or a politician. How's that for separation of church and state?
Buy the President
A rundown for the tour of suckage:
City:
Toronto, ON
October 7, 8:30am
Toronto Congress Centre
City:
Boston, MA
October 9, 8:30am
Renaissance Boston Bedford Hotel
City:
Chicago, IL
October 15, 8:30am
Indian Lakes Resort
City:
Vancouver, BC
October 21, 8:30am
Radisson President Hotel & Suites Vancouver Airport
City:
Dallas, TX
October 23, 8:30am
Marriott Dallas/Ft. Worth Airport
City:
Orlando, FL
October 29, 8:30am
Renaissance Orlando Hotel Airport
City:
Newark, NJ
October 8, 8:30am
Sheraton Newark Airport Hotel
City:
Minneapolis, MN
October 14, 8:30am
Minneapolis Airport Marriott
City:
St. Louis, MO
October 16, 8:30am
Radisson Hotel Clayton
City:
Irvine, CA
October 22, 8:30am
Marriott Irvine
City:
Atlanta, GA
October 28, 8:30am
Marriott Century Center
Dee-Ann LeBlanc on O'Reilly Network has been making some good points about this:
I found this off groklaw
Looks like they will be sueing SGI according to this filing.
The SCO page says its sponsered by Microlite, which appears to be backup solutions for SCO products (and Linux).
Doesn't everyone remember that HP was the main sponser of the SCO 2003 forum in Las Vegas, but they backed out because of the SCO linux licensing. You can read about it here.
If you follow the link to the SCO site, they say it is sponsored by Microlite (the logo on this page is the same as the one on the SCO page).
As someone who's actually interested in the SCO proceedings (I mean, if I wasn't I'd just uncheck the "Caldera" box in my user prefs, right?) This is the "4 times a day" schedule to date this month:
./ posting seems not like lots of short lines, I'll just summarize the first months of the SCO/IBM lawsuit: 6(!) stories in July, 14 in June and 5(!) stories for May.
.41 stories per day. Why, that's not even 1 story every other day! If you wanted to be ge
SCO's Roadshow Coming Soon (On September 30th, 2003 with 231 comments)
Ransom Love, Caldera Co-Founder Interviewed (On September 26th, 2003 with 237 comments)
IBM Adds SCO Counterclaim Charging Copyright Infringement (On September 26th, 2003 with 738 comments)
SCO's Plan Examined (On September 25th, 2003 with 576 comments)
HP Clarifies Indemnification Offer For Linux Users (On September 24th, 2003 with 274 comments)
HP Offers Linux Purchasers Indemnification (On September 24th, 2003 with 326 comments)
Groklaw Sends A Dear Darl Letter (On September 20th, 2003 with 268 comments)
SCO Claims $15,300,000 From SCOsource (On September 16th, 2003 with 404 comments)
SCO Volleys to Red Hat (On September 16th, 2003 with 469 comments)
More on SCO Code Snippets (On September 14th, 2003 with 339 comments)
Linus to SCO: 'Please Grow Up' (On September 11th, 2003 with 1163 comments)
Back To SCO (On September 10th, 2003 with 560 comments)
ESR to Shred SCO Claims? (On September 9th, 2003 with 554 comments)
SCO's Open Letter to Open Source Community (On September 9th, 2003 with 724 comments)
SCO Run-Time Licenses: Get 'em While They're Hot! (On September 8th, 2003 with 587 comments)
More Criticism of SCO's Claims To UNIX (On September 6th, 2003 with 400 comments)
SCO's Next Target: SGI? (On September 5th, 2003 with 338 comments)
17 whole stories. Throw in two or three Slashbacks or Ask Slashdots to make it a round number, and we have 20 stores in 30 days. Now, let's look at August. I mean, maybe the frenzied stories have been dying down:
SCO Roundup (On August 30th, 2003 with 471 comments)
SCO Says It Has No Plan To Sue Linux Companies (
On August 28th, 2003 with 478 comments)
SCO DOS Harming Innocent Bystanders (On August 28th, 2003 with 422 comments)
SCO Says IBM is Beating Up on Them (On August 22nd, 2003 with 1133 comments)
SCO: Code Proof Analyzed, Linus Interviewed (On August 20th, 2003 with 890 comments)
Samba Team Points Out SCO's Hypocrisy (On August 20th, 2003 with 612 comments)
Open Source Community Approaches SCO (On August 19th, 2003 with 521 comments)
SCO: FSF Reply To GPL Claims, Conference Sponsors Back Off? (On August 18th, 2003 with 580 comments)
RMS on SCO, Distributions, DRM (On August 17th, 2003 with 711 comments)
OSDL Releases Q&A on SCO Legal Actions (On August 14th, 2003 with 285 comments)
SCO Attorney Declares GPL Invalid (On August 14th, 2003 with 1137 comments)
SCO Announces Final Termination of IBM's Licence (On August 13th, 2003 with 807 comments)
SCO Execs Dumping Stock (On August 12th, 2003 with 691 comments)
FSF, GCC, and SCO Compiler Support (On August 12th, 2003 with 525 comments)
SCO: Fortune 500 Company Buys License, IBM Retort (On August 11th, 2003 with 557 comments)
SCO Calls IBM Countersuit "Unsubstantiated Allegations" (On August 8th, 2003 with 972 comments)
IBM Countersues SCO, And More! (On August 7th, 2003 with 1156 comments)
SCO Targets US Government, TiVo (On August 6th, 2003 with 1539 comments)
SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems (On August 5th, 2003 with 1659 comments)
SCO "Disappointed" by Red Hat Lawsuit (On August 5th, 2003 with 778 comments)
Red Hat Sues SCO, Sets Up Legal Fund (On August 4th, 2003 with 787 comments)
OSDL Position Paper on SCO and Linux (On August 1st, 2003 with 421 comments)
Hmm, a little bit better, 21 stories in 31 days. And we've got some of the juicy nuggets of the story to date, so far.
Because
63 stories in 153 days =
Note the HP logo has wanished since /. posted this
Help fight continental drift.
HP has not bought a SCO Source license. Sun has, for $7.5 million and counting. See the 10-Q's.
HP has not acquired warrants to buy stock in SCO, and Sun has. See the 10-Q's.
If there's any evidence that HP is supporting SCO, it's not showing up in SCO's 10-Q's.
HP decreased its existing support of SCO since SCO filed suit this year. HP pulled its sponsorship of SCO Forum, and I don't think they are not sponsors of this road show. SCO keeps trying to use HP's logo, but HP keeps making them stop.
Sun increased its existing support of SCO, and then lied about it. Sun tried to push the story that they paid up their license years ago, when in fact they were buying a secret license in February 2003.