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Diamandis Predicts X-Prize Winner Within One Year

drix writes "Things are moving along for the X-Prize. The FAA is currently in the process of approving a launch site for competitors, several of which are set to launch "within the next few months." Perhaps most exciting, Peter Diamandis says he expects a winner within one year."

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  1. And space exploration is not easy! by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From my dad's dealings with NASA, and from my own experiences with the kinds of robust computer systems involved, I think it would truly be an accomplishment for any private enterprise to successfully launch into space, do something productive, and potentially come back, manned or unmanned. It is just remarkably difficult to get things into space!

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    1. Re:And space exploration is not easy! by GileadGreene · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Damn! Better alert Boeing (the Delta series and others), and Lockheed Martin (the Atlas series and others), and Orbital Sciences (Pegasus and Taurus), and let them know how amazing it would be for a private enterprise to succesfully launch into space and do something productive. Last time I checked, none of them are government departments.

      The key question is whether or not it's possible for privately funded groups to get things into space. Right now every successful launch vehicle program that I'm aware of has been funded by a government. Which has led many people to believe that it costs so much to build a launch vehicle that only a government could afford it. Personally, having observed government space orgs an action, I'm more prone to believe that because launch vehicles have been government funded they cost a lot to build. Hopefully the X-prize guys, and groups like Elon Musk's SpaceX can validate that belief for me.

    2. Re:And space exploration is not easy! by Cosmonut · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, actually, it's NOT difficult to get things into space; we've been doing it since 1957. Heck, we pretty much use the same techology now. The difficulty with space travel, I'm afraid, isn't technical, it's organizational.

  2. Homebrew Satellites by L-s-L69 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Will these cheap and private enterprise driven launches lead to many more privately owned satellites in low earth orbit? Just wondering as this would have many very practical applications as well as leading to intense crowding in LEO. Just a thought.

  3. And I predict not just yet.. by JusTyler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From statistics you can learn one thing. That is, whenever anyone claims something is definitely going to happen within a short time frame, it almost certainly won't.

    "Duke Nukem Forever will be out in time for Christmas 1999!" - 1999

    "Doom 3 will be out sometime next year." - 2002

    "By 1999, most homes will have access to broadband."

    But I'm not being pessimistic. I think the X Prize WILL be won within "the next decade." The promise is there, but I think the next year will contain a lot of launches, but a lot of mid-air explosions and failures too. It's natural, it happens in every industry.. software and hardware.

  4. Scaled Composites by fudgefactor7 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Right now, it's a clear lead for Scaled Composites, at 57%, according to the poll. I admit, I haven't followed this really closely--except for the occasional Armadillo story--but I think I'm going to have to look into Scaled Composites a bit more. Although it would be really cool to see Carmack win, I kind of doubt it will happen that way.

  5. X-Prize spaceport events.. by adeyadey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One interesting proposed idea was to turn these launches from spaceports into paid-entry "events" - with different competitors competing for the best performance etc. When you think about how much money is made in other racing events, this may not be such a bad way to make this technology pay..

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  6. Re:Do they just have to reach outer space by BDew · · Score: 4, Informative

    They have to complete a suborbital flight (100 km IIRC), and then turn around and do it again with the same spacecraft within 2 weeks.

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  7. Brink of a Revolution by ChuckDivine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree with Diamandis on this one. We are about to see the first vehicle not initially developed for government reach space. And, as the X-15 was a precusor to the space shuttle, I expect the X Prize contestants to be the precusors to a variety of orbital vehicles.

    Instead of a one size fits all vehicle, though, I expect to see various vehicles developed for various uses. We've learned the shortcomings of that approach.

    NASA predicts it will take a number of years to develop the OSP. If they do get bogged down in bureaucracy too much, they'll wind up losing that race to private entrepreneurs. That will radically change the way humanity does work in space.

    Even if all doesn't go well, I expect to see a broad range of humans boarding space ships before I die (probably 30 to 45 years from now).

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  8. Re:Do they just have to reach outer space by _Upsilon_ · · Score: 4, Informative
    Or do they have to come down as well?
    From the article:
    The X Prize contest calls for launching a manned craft to 62 miles (100 kilometers), generally considered the cusp of space, and returning it safely to Earth. And then doing it again within 14 days.

    So it does have to come down, and then go back up, and back down again... safely.

  9. Re:I predict something else... by The+G · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As the article notes, it is quite likely that someone will die in this endeavor. But private -- the first step to ubiquitous -- space flight is a cause worth risking, and losing, one's life for. If I were given the opportunity, I would accept in an instant.

    Our society has lived for 110 years without a frontier, and in that time we have forgotten that there are things more important than human life -- that there are risks worth taking. Living without a frontier has sapped our courage, our will to freedom, and our sense of proportion. But frontiers aren't opened without pain and loss and death. In the end, though, they're worth it, for what they do for us as individuals and for us as a civilsation, and that's as true of the next (never say final!) frontier as of the earthly ones.

    Beside the grandeur of the universe and the infinite potential that we unlock when we open it to humanity, what is life? A valuable and unique thing that we must stand ready to sacrifice for the dreams and goals that make humanity worth its place in the world. The last and most valuable coin we have to bet for one more step toward the ultimate prize: A wider and stranger and more glorious human universe.
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  10. Scaled Composites seems to be very close by johnjay · · Score: 5, Informative

    Although I'm rooting for Armadillo Aerospace, I visited the Scaled Composites website a few days ago. They seem to be very close to a successful launch. They've been doing all sorts of drop/glide tests of their spaceship, and they've seen a lot of success with those tests. Their crazy shuttle-cock decent seems to work fine. (This is especially amusing after all of the slashdot posts about how a winged successor to the space shuttle is the worst idea ever.) Also, they outsourced their engine construction which, seeing the kind of trouble Armadillo is having with their engines, might turn out to be a winning strategy.

  11. Re:I predict something else... by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 4, Informative
    The real problems will start at 50000 feet up when SS1 is dropped from the WK and ignites it's engine.

    No, not really, it's a hybrid engine he's chosen. They're generally reckoned to be much simpler and far safer than the solid rockets that the Shuttle uses; even amateurs fairly regularly build them, and with generally good results. Provided he can keep it pointing in the right direction he should be fine.

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  12. A little Canadianism. ^_^ by MarvinMouse · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know this is out of character for a Canadian, but I do have to say I have a soft spot for the Canadian Arrow project. http://www.canadianarrow.com

    I have been following it closely, and all of their tests have been reasonably successful, they have their astronaut team now, and they are almost done training. They've finished engine testing, and are even preparing for secondary business ventures when the project is complete (read "spacediving" on their page.)

    So currently now, I am just waiting for them to do their launch (which if I remember correctly from the latest clip of them on "Daily Planet" they were saying was going to be early to mid 2004, barring no complications.

    The Da Vinci project looks good as well, but I just haven't paid that much attention to it.

    Oh well, no matter what happens, hopefully this will get the publics attention, and these companies will continue development further into even more spaceworthy vehicles (ie orbital, etc.) with the money they make from tourism (Assuming they make money. ^_^)

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  13. Re:I predict something else... by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    we have forgotten that there are things more important than human life -- that there are risks worth taking.

    Thank Jeebus someone else still feels that way.

    I have a simple answer for the "space travel is too dangerous" crowd: Don't do it. If you think flying into space is too much risk for the reward then you are welcome to stay on earth for the rest of your (hopefully long) life. However, please don't assume that everyone feels the same way you do, and when other people want to take extraordinary risks for what they think are extraordinary rewards, keep out of the way and let them do it!

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  14. succesful drop tests by photonic · · Score: 4, Informative
    The mission log of Scaled Composites says they already did two succesful drop tests with the SpaceShipOne!
    The video cameras mounted on the spaceship recorded dramatic views particularly during the unique feather maneuver. Observers in the chase Starship were treated to a closeup bizarre view of the spaceship plunging downward in a rock-stable near vertical feathered descent. First public showings of these videos will be on 26 September at the annual SETP symposium in Los Angeles
    Anybody knows where to find those movies?
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