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The Guy Responsible For Ctrl-Alt-Del

Gannett News is running a story about David Bradley, the IBM engineer who, in 1980, coined Ctrl-Alt-Del. Interestingly, he meant for it to remain a developer-only tool, not something for end users, and certainly not to have Windows users change their passwords or logoff. He also says he chose those keys specifically as it's not a key sequence that can be struck by accident.

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  1. Heh I thought of this CTRL-ALT-DEL by bazik · · Score: 2, Informative

    When I read 'the guy responsible for Ctrl-Alt-Del", I thought you ment Tim Buckly - author of the awesome Ctrl-Alt-Del Webcomic Series.

    I love this Comic :)

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  2. Windows' use of CTRL-ALT-DEL by legLess · · Score: 5, Informative
    ...certainly not to have Windows users change their passwords or logoff.

    Many people rag on this, but it actually made some sense at the time. Microsoft has removed it from later versions of Windows for convenience, not security, purposes.

    For people who don't know, WIndows NT 4 (and perhaps 3.5 and earlier?) required one to hit CTRL-ALT-DEL to get a login prompt. Many people complained, not seeing the logic in it, but logic there is.

    CTRL-ALT-DEL is can never, ever be trapped by an application -- unless Windows has hosed completely, it's guaranteed to get the OS's attention. Having to hit it to get a login box means that no other application can fake a login box. If they tried, CTRL-ALT-DEL would bring up the task manager instead of a login dialog.

    So regardless of whether you like it, the minor annoyance served a good purpose and was actually a fairly clever design decision. Much smarter than, oh, allowing macro viruses to execute by default.

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    1. Re:Windows' use of CTRL-ALT-DEL by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Informative
      CTRL-ALT-DEL is can never, ever be trapped by an application -- unless Windows has hosed completely, it's guaranteed to get the OS's attention.

      That's called a "secure attention key (SAK)". It's an old idea, found on many different systems - a key or key sequence that can't be intercepted and is guaranteed to reach the "trusted computing base (TCB)".

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    2. Re:Windows' use of CTRL-ALT-DEL by radish · · Score: 2, Informative

      Errmmm...maybe I'm using some other Windows, but here I have to press Ctrl-Alt-Del to login to my W2K and XP boxes too. Did I miss something? You say they removed it? Err?

      ps. I know you can set an auto-logon into the registry, but that hack does more than disable Ctrl-Alt-Del, and works on very old versions.

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  3. Ummm... by TheShadow · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why is it that everyone thinks that Ctrl-Alt-Del has some special hardware interrupt, or something else that makes it magical?

    The BIOS traps that combination (through the normal keyboard interrupt) and initiates a system reboot.

    Problem is, if your OS isn't using the BIOS for keyboard input (pretty much every modern OS uses it's own keyboard handling code) then the OS determines what this key combination does.

    In either case, it is software that determines what that key combination does.

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  4. Re:Another interesting fact: by l2718 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Ctrl-Alt-Del is the only key combination on your computer that has its own hardware interrupt ... this was to prevent interception in real mode


    Not quite. Interrupt processing by the hardware is the same for real and protected modes (which are internal to the processor).

    All key press/release events generate the same hardware interrupt (normally the keyboard is wired to the IRQ1 line of the interrupt controller). Standard BIOS setup configures the 8859 to generate Int 0x9 for this IRQ. The keyboard interrupt handler is then charged with identifying the Ctrl-Alt-Del combination and acting on it.

    The default BIOS action is to triger a software interrupt (Int 0x17 IIRC). The motivation for this was not to prevent interceptions. Rather, this conforms to the policy of having BIOS entrypoints go through software interrupts (in this case allowing any program to generate a soft-boot).

  5. Re:Another interesting fact: by jsmyth · · Score: 4, Informative
    Ctrl-Alt-Del is the only key combination on your computer that has its own hardware interrupt

    Nope. It shares the same hardware IRQ with everything else on the keyboard. The interrupt service routine handles the particular values received from the keyboard, so it spawns a software interrupt for ctrl-alt-del that (OS-specific) suspends user mode code and does something configurable, e.g. Windows Security dialog in W2K, task mgr in W9x, or in Linux configured by what you've got in /etc/inittab.

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  6. Another good story on Dr. Bradley and PC history by Ewann · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's one that has some more quotes from Dr. Bradley about inventing Ctrl-Alt-Del, as well as interviews with others on the team that invented the first IBM PC.

    Googling on his name along with "history of IBM PC" yields other good tidbits.

  7. That and SysRq by morcheeba · · Score: 4, Informative

    SysRq was the original interrupt-generating special keystroke. It doesn't get much use anymore, though.

  8. Re:Heh. by cscx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, aside from your comment indicating you to be a total jackass, there is actually a good reason behind the CTRL-ALT-DEL sequence in NT. It's a security feature.

    "The CTRL-ALT-DEL key combination in NT disables user mode programs so a trojan program cannot intercept the user's name and password during the logon process. No user mode programs can be run until a valid logon has occurred. This is called restricted user mode. The CTRL-ALT-DEL key sequence indicates that there is a physically connected keyboard that the keystrokes are coming from. During the logon process, the Winlogon service passes the user's point of authentication, name, and password to the client/server (CSR) subsystem. The CSR passes the information to the security reference monitor which checks the Security Accounts Manager (SAM) database against the received information to see if the user is authentic. If so, a valid access token is generated and returned back down the line to the processes that sent the information."

    Read more here.

  9. Right. In fact, by TrekkieGod · · Score: 4, Informative
    If you'd like to trap the Ctrl-Alt-Del combination in Linux, and use it for something else, edit your inittab. Look for a comment along the lines of #trap CTRL-ALT-DEL. Below it there will be a command such as

    ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -r now

    Yep...you might recognize that as the reboot command. You can go ahead and change it so that it shuts down your computer or run anything else you desire (although it'll run it with root privileges so, don't put something stupid in there unless you're running Lindows and therefore are always root, I guess)

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  10. Re:Patent madness? by MouseR · · Score: 4, Informative

    Before the reset buttons on Macs, Apple II machines (the //c, the ][e, ][+ and //) had a reset button seated on a hefty spring, and would only take effect if you held down the Apple button (nowadays known as the Command key).

    Although some Macs have had bad placement for the reset button (some Performas and the Mac II line come to mind), most Macs have had their reset buttons on the side of the machine, where it's not as easy to reach by mistake (and quite frankly, hard to locate at times).

    Some of the Macs, also, had reset buttons that were inside the case, and could only be accessible with an externally-mounted, optional button that reached inside of the case for the reset button. Such was the case for the Mac Plus, SE (and SE/30) and the Mac II line (II, II x, II fx).

    The worst placement for the reset button was on the PowerMac 601 (pizza box "G1" if you wish), where the front-mounted reset (and power) switch was at the same height of the (then much) thick keyboard. Pushing the keyboard against the machine could switch it off. Outright stupid it was.

  11. Re:Win NT by cwj123 · · Score: 2, Informative

    By default it isn't enabled only if you aren't logging on to a windows domain controller (just the local computer). If your in a corporate setting normally you are and having to press Ctrl-Alt-Del remains in full effect...

  12. Not immune, just more difficult by deinol · · Score: 3, Informative

    Using Ctrl-Alt-Del for a login prompt doesn't mean you can't have a Trojan password gatherer. It just means you have to code it in Linux/*BSD where you can control the interrupt yourself. Make it bootable from floppy (grabbing extra data from HD or net if needed) and after a few login tries it 'reboots'. The floppy is long gone, and now it's back to the real NT (or 2k/xp) screen.

    Nothing is secure when you can get physical access to the machine.

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  13. Re:Patent madness? by rikkards · · Score: 4, Informative

    You're right it is capable of being hijacked. It uses the MSGINA.DLL and MS even explain how to do it on their website. It is capable of being used with a string of GINAs (Novell has one they use so that a user in a Novell Domain can log onto NDS called NWGINA.DLL)

  14. Re:Weird accessory by DWormed · · Score: 3, Informative

    Of course, for those of us who are slightly more lazy, this Easier to use version.

  15. did you read the OS documentation? by oliverthered · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ok, so I didn't read all of it either, here's howto and ahy to use sysrq under linux 2.6
    /usr/linux-beta/Documentation/sysrq.txt
    Edit ed for lameness, have fun

    "Linux Magic System Request Key Hacks
    Documentation for sysrq.c version 1.15
    Last update: $Date: 2001/01/28 10:15:59 $

    * What is the magic SysRq key?
    It is a 'magical' key combo you can hit which the kernel will respond to
    regardless of whatever else it is doing, unless it is completely locked up.

    * How do I enable the magic SysRq key?
    You need to say "yes" to 'Magic SysRq key (CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ)' when
    configuring the kernel. When running on a kernel with SysRq compiled in, it
    may be DISABLED at run-time using following command:

    echo "0" > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq

    Note that previous versions disabled sysrq by default, and you were required
    to specifically enable it at run-time. That is not the case any longer.

    * How do I use the magic SysRq key?
    On x86 - You press the key combo 'ALT-SysRq-<command key>'. Note - Some
    keyboards may not have a key labeled 'SysRq'. The 'SysRq' key is
    also known as the 'Print Screen' key.

    On SPARC - You press 'ALT-STOP-<command key>', I believe.

    On the serial console (PC style standard serial ports only) -
    You send a BREAK, then within 5 seconds a command key. Sending
    BREAK twice is interpreted as a normal BREAK.

    On PowerPC - Press 'ALT - Print Screen (or F13) - <command key>,
    Print Screen (or F13) - <command key> may suffice.

    On other - If you know of the key combos for other architectures, please
    let me know so I can add them to this section.

    On all - write a character to /proc/sysrq-trigger. eg:

    echo t > /proc/sysrq-trigger

    * What are the 'command' keys?
    'r' - Turns off keyboard raw mode and sets it to XLATE.
    'k' - Secure Access Key (SAK) Kills all programs on the current virtual
    console. NOTE: See important comments below in SAK section.
    'b' - Will immediately reboot the system without syncing or unmounting
    your disks.
    'o' - Will shut your system off (if configured and supported).
    's' - Will attempt to sync all mounted filesystems.
    'u' - Will attempt to remount all mounted filesystems read-only.
    'p' - Will dump the current registers and flags to your console.
    't' - Will dump a list of current tasks and their information to your
    console.
    'm' - Will dump current memory info to your console.
    'v' - Dumps Voyager SMP processor info to your console.
    '0'-'9' - Sets the console log level, controlling which kernel messages
    will be printed to your console. ('0', for example would make
    it so that only emergency messages like PANICs or OOPSes would
    make it to your console.)

    'e' - Send a SIGTERM to all processes, except for init.
    'i' - Send a SIGKILL to all processes, except for init.
    'l' - Send a SIGKILL to all processes, INCLUDING init. (Your system
    will be non-functional after this.)
    'h' - Will display help ( actually any other key than those listed
    above will display help. but 'h' is easy to remember :-)

    * Okay, so what can I use them for?
    Well, un'R'aw is very handy when your X server or a svgalib program crashes.

    sa'K' (Secure Access Key) is useful when you want to be sure there are no
    trojan program is running at console and which could grab your password
    when you would try to login. It will kill all programs on given console
    and thus letting you make sure that the login prompt you see is actually
    the one from init, not some trojan program.
    IMPORTANT:In its true form it is not a true SAK like the one in :IMPORTANT
    IMPORTANT:c2 compliant systems, and it should be mistook as such. :IMPORTANT
    It seems other find it useful as

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  16. Re:On Tech TV by _xeno_ · · Score: 3, Informative
    I found a video of it on the TechTV site, but if you look closely at it, you'll note that whoever encoded this video swiped some other video and encoded that. Look closely and you'll notice the original progress bar on the bottom of the movie sliding under it, as well as text from where the video was originally from. (The movie is the "video highlight" for the day, and requires JS and Windows Media Player. Works under Mozilla, though. You'll need to look at an ad, too.)

    By the way, it's closer to:

    Bradley: "Now I have to share the credit. I may have invented it, but I think that Bill Gates is the one who made it famous."

    Roaring laughter, shot of Bill Gates looking a bit miffed.

    "When you used it for NT logon! That's what I meant."

    Shot of Bill Gates shrugging and acting as if maybe he believes Bradley.

    All in all, Gates too it rather well, you need to see the video because my description makes it sound like Gates got really upset and he took it in stride quite well.
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  17. Two fingered salute by coinreturn · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apple ][ Plus shipped with a hard "RESET" button not requiring any additional keys in combination. It had to be pushed pretty hard to make it depress, though. Unfortunately, it was somewhat close to "ESC" and occationally did get hit inadvertantly.

    There was a switch on the keyboard controller that allowed you to change it to ctrl-reset.

  18. Don't forget about Ctl-Alt-Ins by bbstone · · Score: 2, Informative

    On the original IBM PC Jr., circa 1980, it had both soft-reset (Ctl-Alt-Del) and diagnostic mode (Ctl-Alt-Ins). Wouldn't it be great to boot into a diag mode and check memory, disk, video. Maybe these new bios' will give me back a feature from 23 yrs ago.

  19. Re:It doesn't matter what it is... by AT · · Score: 5, Informative

    That is, that key combo cannot be intercepted by applications thus making it impossible to create infamous fake logins for grabbing user credentials mere looks-like-login-screen

    This is actually untrue. There are several ways to capture ctrl-alt-del in Windows. One is by remapping the keyboard with the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Keyboard Layout registry entry. This changes the key mappings before the system processes ctrl-alt-del.

    The idea of a secure access key is a good one, but MS has a broken implementation since they allow it to be circumvented.

  20. Re:Another interesting fact: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    This is not entirely correct either. Right after POST, when a key is pressed/released, the keyboard controller generates an IRQ1 which will cause the processor to stop the currently executing program and execute the handler for interrupt 9 (as indicated in the Interrupt Vector Table). This handler keeps track of whether you're pressing ctrl-alt-delete and will cause the machine to reboot if that's the case (using another interrupt, actually).

    When a modern 32-bit protected mode operating system like Windows (2000/XP) or Linux is loaded, it is a different story. The interrupt for the keyboard (which doesn't necessarily have to be 9, since the o/s can reprogram the 8259A chip to use another int) is handled by the o/s driver and this driver decides what is going to happen when ctrl-alt-delete is pressed. It could chose to simply treat ctrl-alt-delete as any other keyboard combination and maybe define another reset combination. The BIOS is out of the loop and it is the BIOS that has defined ctrl-alt-delete to be special. Thus the o/s is free to override this.

    From your post it seems that you think that in Win2K/WinXP it is still the BIOS that intercepts the ctrl-alt-delete and then somehow forwards it to the O/S. This is not the case.

  21. Re:Another interesting fact: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    There are numerous reasons why it doesn't have to work.

    In DOS, any program could disable the interrupts (using for example the CLI instruction) or could reprogram that 8259A to not generate IRQ1's. Or the program could change the interrupt vector table and intercept data from the keyboard and ignore the ctrl-alt-delete event.

    In modern operating systems, the BIOS is out of the loop (the IRQ generated is handled entirely within the o/s) and the o/s could simple chose to ignore the combination. Or an error in it or one of it's other drivers may have caused the keyboard handler to be overwritten or the interrupts to have been disabled (it only takes two instructions for a linux driver to crash the system so ctrl-alt-delete won't work: "cli" and "hlt", in sequence).

    From a hardware point of view there's nothing special about ctrl-alt-delete. The keyboard doesn't know it's doing something special, nor does the keyboard controller, CPU, chipset etc. when encountering ctrl-alt-delete.
    It's the BIOS that is given special treatment to ctrl-alt-delete. Mayn modern O/S'es have chosen to follow the convention of this key combo being something special, even though they didn't have to (as I said, the BIOS is out of the loop when such O/S'es are loaded).
    However when the software responsible for handling ctrl-alt-delete is malfunctioning or the control is taken away from it, theis key-combo won't work.

  22. Re:Patent madness? by jerde · · Score: 2, Informative
    Before the reset buttons on Macs, Apple II machines (the //c, the ][e, ][+ and //) had a reset button seated on a hefty spring, and would only take effect if you held down the Apple button (nowadays known as the Command key).

    This only applied to the original Apple II and II+. In the earliest versions of those machines, the reset key was the same as any other key, and very easy to hit by mistake. My old II+ has the rubber washer installed under that keycap to make the key very hard to press. In later II+ revisions they changed to requiring control-reset. All later Apple II models use control-reset.

    From http://apple2history.org/history/ah06.html:
    The keyboard itself underwent some changes, both by users and by Apple. The original RESET key was in the upper right-hand corner of the keyboard. The problem with that key was that it had the same feel as the keys around it, making it possible to accidentally hit RESET and lose the entire program that was being so carefully entered. One user modification was to pop off the RESET keycap and put a rubber washer under it, making it necessary to apply more pressure than usual to do a RESET. Apple fixed this twice, once by replacing the spring under the keycap with a stiffer one, and finally by making it necessary to press the CTRL key and the RESET together to make a RESET cycle happen. The keyboards that had the CTRL-RESET feature made it user selectable via a small slide switch just inside the case (some people didn't want to have to press the CTRL key to do a RESET).


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  23. Re:Heh. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Informative
    Nope. It's still with us. I've had to reboot three times in the past two days. Once for networking wierdness (reboot cured it), once for software installation (obligatory), and once because I had an unkillable task. Windows 2000, all patches/service packs.

    Our "windows sysadmin" here at the office wants to reboot machines all the time. I have to stop him from rebooting the central server several times a day. "Greg, that server is in production...we can't reboot it". The culture of rebooting is still with the Windows world, in a big way. Scheduling your reboots is a foriegn concept.

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  24. Re:Patent madness? by grahamlee · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Amiga had Ctrl-LAmiga-RAmiga (or Ctrl-CBM-Amiga on some keyboards) at much the same time.

  25. Re:Er, that's a bit much.... by Jon+Shaft · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can see the video here. My apologies for the crappy news.com link.

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  26. Re:Heh. by Quixadhal · · Score: 2, Informative
    The CTRL-ALT-DEL key sequence indicates that there is a physically connected keyboard that the keystrokes are coming from.
    Is that why it works just fine under VNC? Don't kid yourself, Ctrl-Alt-Delete isn't a single keystroke, nor is it an NMI, it's just three key-down events that the windows event handler pays attention to. While it may disable pure user-mode programs, it's trivial to make a program that will hang onto admin privs if it acquires them (such as the VNC server).

    It is true that trojans would need to get permission to run with privs, or find an exploit, but once there they can happily reroute the CSR services through themselves with the Ctrl-Alt-Delete handler none the wiser.

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  27. Properly known as a SAK (Secure Attention Key) by Elladan · · Score: 5, Informative

    This feature is properly known as a SAK - Secure Attention Key. It's an old security feature used to prevent hijacking of trusted consoles, as you said, and is implemented on many systems. The perennial place where it's needed is university computer labs, where logging in and then leaving a fake login prompt running to capture passwords is has always been considered good clean fun. (To implement it properly, one should print a "wrong password!" message, and then exit the user session completely giving the user the real login prompt)

    The basic idea is that the OS traps the SAK and does something obvious (like give you a login prompt) to keep a user from running a program pretending to be the OS. Since the OS doesn't let the user handle the SAK, security is maintained.

    Linux supports SAK, however it's never really been properly deployed by distributions. Part of the reason is that nobody's ever really standardized on what the SAK key should be. If SysRQ is enabled, than Alt-SysRQ-k will cause a SAK event in the kernel. Otherwise, the keyboard driver can be configured by root to use any key sequence. One key sequence I've seen used is Alt-SysRQ-PageDown, but there's really no particular standard.

    When SAK is raised in linux, all programs running on the current terminal are force-killed. It's then expected that init will provide a new login prompt there.

    This leads to the second problem with SAK on Linux, namely that most users run X on workstation machines. If you SAK while X is running, the kernel kill -9's X... Which trashes your video card, leaving the system in an unusable state. Which is probably not what you wanted. Some video drivers and cards in X may be stable enough that, if you're running xdm/gdm/kdm etc., it may be able to restart X and give you an X11 login prompt - but the console will still be trashed, so you won't be able to exit out of X afterwards (or eg. with ctrl-alt-f1). It used to be the case that you could store the video settings for your console and run a program (eg. restoretext etc.) to fix them, but that hasn't worked on any modern video card in years. In addition, if you just escape out of X and then fix the console, X will re-trash your console as soon as you return to it, since it only stores the console settings from when X was started, not the current settings. Hence, X and your console program get in a fight and you probably end up crashing the video card and having to pull the power plug out or something if you do this a lot.

    Confusing things even more, XFree generally defines its own internal "SAK"-like key sequence, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. This isn't actually an OS-level SAK though, it just instructs X to quit. And not surprisingly, it often doesn't work due to XFree bugs (and may be trappable by user apps).

  28. Re:fysically impaired? by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Informative

    after my suggestion he should press "control alt del" went silent for a moment, then told me he only had one hand.

    The right-hand Ctrl and Alt keys are within reach of the Del key. It's a bit awkward, but it should be.

  29. Re:fysically impaired? by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just checked. I had my index finger on Alt, my third finger on Ctrl, my pinky on Del - and my middle finger sticking straight out. I guess that IS the right way to do it.

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  30. Re:It doesn't matter what it is... by dark+druid · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not broken. You have to be an admin to change that registry key. If you are already an admin it doesn't really matter since you could do more creative things like replace the keyboard driver.

  31. Re:Heh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Our Win2k servers reboot themselves because of random errors all the time. At least it reboots itself, rather than sitting at a blue screen.

    As for blue screens, on my desktops I have seen plenty of blue screens with Win2k/XP, but they were generally hardware or driver issues, so can't really blame Windows for that. Though there were a few unexplained blue screens, but I assumed it was hardware.

    Honestly, the whole "Windows always needs reboots" thing is done and over with. It died with the last decade.

    I find this to be untrue, though I'm not going to say its totally Windows fault. There is a lot of software that will start crashing and quit working properly until you reboot. Windows needs to be rebooted. Face it, this fact hasn't changed. And of course for applying patches and installing software you're always going to be asked to reboot. Not good for running a server, ok for the desktop, but still annoying.

    Honestly, with Win2k, for a while, whenever someone was having a problem, I asked "did you reboot?" They of course said "no." I went and rebooted their machine and the problem was fixed. I haven't experienced this for a while. Maybe everyone's learned to reboot their machine themselves?

  32. What about cats? by TheGrimace · · Score: 2, Informative
    He didn't want people to hit control-alt-delete by accident.
    Sure, difficult to hit by accident for humans, but as a cat owner, I can assure you that cats are perfectly proportioned to hit the three finger salute "by accident" when walking on a keyboard.
  33. Re:fysically impaired? by jpmkm · · Score: 2, Informative

    Thumb on alt, ring finger on control, middle finger on delete.

  34. Re: Er, that's a bit much.... by gidds · · Score: 2, Informative
    Nice idea, but far from true, I'm afraid. An infinite non-repeating number need not include every possible combination. For example, here's an infinite non-repeating decimal number that doesn't include any combination with the digits '2' to '9':
    1.101001000100001000001...
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  35. Re:Doesn't work on Linux by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 2, Informative

    Must be your distro, then. Our RedHat and Gentoo boxes work with either the left or right CTRL+ALT keys. Same with our FreeBSD and OpenBSD boxes.

  36. Re:Too funny! (and mod parent UP!) by Lord+of+Ironhand · · Score: 3, Informative

    I captured it to a 4.4M file with mencoder:
    mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy -o ctrlaltdel.asf -forceidx mms://a644.m.akastream.net/7/644/674/t080901_1130_ 001/cnetnews.download.akamai.com/674/t080901_1130_ 1_hi.asf

    (remove any spaces from the mms:// address)
    You can probably transcode it to a less sucky format if you want, RTFM.

  37. The real story of Ctl-Alt-Del by DrDaveB49 · · Score: 2, Informative
    I had previously responded to a couple of comments, but now, after 48 unsuccessful tries to establish a slashdot name, I can do so with a real name.

    (1) C-A-D was originally intended for internal use only, but since it quickly rebooted the machine back in the DOS command line days, it was used by all the application programs as a way to quickly start them up. Put in the app diskette -- to which you had already copied DOS, hit C-A-D, and the system reboots to your application.

    (2) We had previously used a 3-key sequence on the System/23 DataMaster (with an Intel 8085 micro) as an "Easter egg" to invoke a debug monitor. Doing something similar on the PC was obvious. But I doubt that many of you have ever seen a DataMaster.

    (3) The video clip that's been referenced is from the 20th anniversary celebration of the PC, August 8, 2001. There was a panel discussion with Dave Bradley (me, IBM), Dan Bricklin (VisiCalc), David Bunnell (PC Magazine), Rod Canion (Compaq), Bill Gates (MS), Andy Grove (Intel), Mitch Kapor (1-2-3) and Ray Ozzie (Notes). I was first -- alphabetically, if not financially -- and was asked about C-A-D. I had captured the clip from CNET.com shortly after the event. I supplied it to TechTV when I was interviewed by them on ScreenSavers, and they cut it in length -- while retaining the Bill Gates reaction shot. Microsoft used to have a transcript of the session on their site, but it's no longer there. There is a funny segment later on in which Bill Gates acknowledges that he's the author of Donkey.

    (4) The entire development cycle of the IBM PC was from Sept 1980 to April 1981, when we released to manufacturing. About 7 months at a time when 3 years was the norm. So lots of things happened quickly -- and C-A-D was just one of them. Much of the PC design is inherited from the DataMaster.

    (5) The original C-A-D was intended to be a two hand operation -- remember, the key layout for the original PC does not resemble current keyboards. We did provide a DOS Terminate and Stay Resident program that made the shift keys "sticky" so that the physically challenged could activate the keys one at a time.

    Any other questions?