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MIT Open Courseware with 500 Courses

Comp Bio Guy writes "As promised, MIT has finally released 500 courses worth of lecture notes, syllabi, and exams to provide a 'free and open educational resource for faculty, students, and self-learners around the world.' Take a look (and maybe a test or two) at MIT's OCW site."

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  1. Hopefully this will start a trend by Muerto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope that information will someday be " free as in beer " for everyone. Now if you are born poor you will most likely stay poor... and this is changing. The internet has been a great gift to everyone... it brings people of all income levels to an even playing field.

    1. Re:Hopefully this will start a trend by australopithecus · · Score: 5, Funny

      makes sense.
      its good to know that poor people will be able to scootch up to their home computer and...oh wait.

    2. Re:Hopefully this will start a trend by Muerto · · Score: 4, Informative

      ahhh.. yes i was waiting for that point to be made... you forget the public library!

    3. Re:Hopefully this will start a trend by swordboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I've always wondered why teachers don't "open source" some text books. When I was in school, it seemed that they changed the text every semester so that kids couldn't buy used books, or resell them after use. It almost seemed as if they were colluding with the publishers. I almost organized a book burning with the angry students who were finding that their $150 Accounting 101 book became worthless after the sememster was over. There are few scholarships/grants that will cover the cost of a text.

      Don't get me wrong - I kept all the good stuff (and still reference it today when google doesn't come through - there are few such cases but I have whacked a few).

      In any event, it would be simple - a book is created and is available for modification so as long as the modifications are submitted back to the original author. The text would evolve into something that could not be purchased from *any* publisher.

      Students Win. Society Wins. Evil Publishers Lose.

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    4. Re:Hopefully this will start a trend by kurosawdust · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Now if you are born poor you will most likely stay poor

      Whoa. I am a liberal in most cases, but this is just crap. If you have access to the internet and >= 3 or 4 free hours a day and don't have a learning disability, you have (within epsilon of) no excuses. In the case of something like computer science, there is (not even within epsilon of) zero excuse for your aptitude other than your desire and the amount of work you put in. It sounds just as romantic as the quote I am responding to, but it's true; if you plug someone in to the internet, they can learn about almost anything they want and in all probability be great at it - they just have to work.

    5. Re:Hopefully this will start a trend by stanmann · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yup, that and parents who valued learning. If more parents valued learning over entertainment and availed themselves of the Public Library vs paying $50 monthly for Cable, $300ea for a tv in each room and $60ea for a VCr to go with, they could afford to bootstrap themselves from poverty to educated.

      And no I'm not particularly motorvated, so I haven't gone as far as I could.
      BUT I've reached the goals I set for myself my senior year of HS and surpassed them. I'm a software engineer for the largest Employer in the US, I own a fully paid for new car, Cell phone, pager and home network. I didn't however realize that I was "born poor" till after I moved out, and the first year on my own, made more than my parents combined income.

      Frugal living, careful planning and inventive meal management. I never went hungry. And yes, living at the "poverty line".

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    6. Re:Hopefully this will start a trend by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem with public libraries is that nobody uses them anymore. This means they are losing funding ... which leads to fewer new books ... which makes it even less relevant and fewer people will use them. The hours are being cut, making it harder for people to use them.

      It'd be nice to see a library that didn't open until after noon, and stayed open into the wee hours. Then it would actually be useful for students, those who work, and so on. Being open from 9 until 5 isn't really convenient for anybody.

    7. Re:Hopefully this will start a trend by stanmann · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well if learning is your goal, your local public college is the place. the library is typically open past 1am, and unless you want to take books with you, is free to non-students.

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    8. Re:Hopefully this will start a trend by dmauer · · Score: 4, Informative
      When I was in school, it seemed that they changed the text every semester so that kids couldn't buy used books, or resell them after use. It almost seemed as if they were colluding with the publishers.
      This is an awfully well-known scheme the publishing houses use to sell books. The schools can't do anything about it, anyway. Here's how it works:

      1) Publish a new edition of your textbook at least every couple of years. Be sure to change the page numbering significantly, and ideally, move stuff from chapter to chapter. The harder it is to syncronize with the old edition, the better!
      2) Release it as soon as you're almost sold out of the previous edition.
      3) Laugh as bookstores can no longer carry new copies of the old edition, so professors have to require the new edition -- they can't assume that everyone will be able to find a used copy of the old edition, and it'll take way too much of their time to synchronize teaching from both editions.
      4) Rinse, Repeat
      5) PROFIT!

      Arseholes.
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    9. Re:Hopefully this will start a trend by dcmeserve · · Score: 3, Interesting
      That's a great idea -- a set of GPL'd text books.

      I think it would apply to grade school even more than college, for the same reason as why governments should only use open-source software: if you're using public money to pay for information products, shouldn't that information also be in the public domain?

      School systems shouldn't be slaves to the big publishing companies that base their books' content on marketablility (e.g. making sure not to offend anyone, and raising the P.C.-ness level to the point where the texts are completely devoid of interesting content). A state's school system should be able to put a lot less money into some bargain-basement publisher who *just* does the job of printing the damn things; the savings could then go into a small staff of content writers/editors to accomodate whatever specializations their local culture calls for. And to contibute the the work as a whole.

      Yeah, I like this idea a LOT.

      Btw, another reason why it would be more applicable to grade school is that college texts tend to be much more specialized. Just as the most successful open src. projects are for those "fundamental" programs like OS, brower, etc., the most successful open-src texts would be the ones covering the fundamentals of math, science, etc.

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  2. Finally, you too... by Atario · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...can feel dumb in the privacy of your own home.

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  3. Not particularly useful without a teacher by Brahmastra · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A lot of the course notes aren't particularly useful without a teacher actually explaining things to you. For example, look at the following link .
    While some of the notes may be useful and educational, I don't think it replaces a real, live professor explaning things and available to answer questions.

    1. Re:Not particularly useful without a teacher by f97tosc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A lot of the course notes aren't particularly useful without a teacher actually explaining things to you. For example, look at the following link . While some of the notes may be useful and educational, I don't think it replaces a real, live professor explaning things and available to answer questions.

      1. I don't think anybody was suggesting that this should replace real profs at MIT. This is extra resources for people outside of universities, who don't have the option of talking to a prof.

      2 Personally, I actually disagree with your point. I have found that I learn the most reading and solving problems, not when I listen to somebody talking (especially not in the big lecture format).

      Tor

  4. Faculty members are very helpful too by stonebeat.org · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I started going through one of the course few months back. And one few ocassions I email the instructors, for clarifications/explanations. And I always got a prompt reply. Even though I am not paying anything to MIT.

  5. Most schools have these by GillBates0 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Most schools have their class pages online. For example, take a look at the College of Computing, Georgia Tech's classes page here.

    Most of them carry assignments, solutions, sample exams, and readings similar to the MIT Open Courseware site....and they're publicly available too.

    What was lacking was a common index to campus-wide pages, and a standard format for all of them. When individual professors/TA's put up their class pages, their formats are not standardized, nor are they always upto date (for example, if an assignment was a handout).

    From a superficious look at some Electrical Engg and Computer Science classes, I think the MIT folks have basically indexed all the pages, standardized the format, and made sure they are all uptodate.

    /end rant

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  6. Nuclear engineering 101, anyone? by chopper749 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just what the world needed! Free Nuclear Engineering classes! From the comfort of your own 3rd world country!

  7. one problem by vraddict · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The fact that the information is available, and even the fact that you can gain access to the instructors for clarification still does not put everyone on an even playing field. The one thing that most people seem to care about are degrees and resumes. The poorest yet most intelligent person in the world could study these courses, and gain an equivalent education to those with degrees, and could even possibly surpass their abilities. It won't do them any good in the present state to learn structural engineering, but not have a degree.

  8. Optimist/Pessimist by boatboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    The optimist in me says 'I always wanted to know more about the adiabatic approximation and Berry's phase.' The pessimist says 'methinks this will only lead to an increase in the number of people who think they know what they are talking about.'

  9. Linux documentation by slux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think GNU/Linux and other free software is a great example of how well the internet can work as a learning tool. We have the Linux Documentation Project, man pages and of course the actual source code. You can easily learn very advanced stuff without buying a single book or attending a single lecture. Why couldn't this be true for other areas as well? The information just needs to be there. I understand Stallman very well when he says that documentation should be free too (FDL).

  10. Lecture videos for one course by bartc · · Score: 4, Informative

    For anyone interested in the MIT course 6.004 Computation Structures: the lectures are very similar to ArsDigita University's "How Computers Work".

    ArsDigita University put all its lectures online in realvideo format. Here's mirror of the "How Computers Work" course.

  11. Poor places (Re:Hopefully this will start a trend) by Forge · · Score: 4, Informative

    IF I lived in the US and made minimum wage I could live in a slum (Like the bad parts of New York) so rent would be cheap enough to leave me with enough money to buy a PC. $700 pays for a decent system and is ONLY 3 weeks pay at minimum wage. Or 3 months with aggressive saving.

    What you should ask about is People who live in Poor countries (Like Jamaica) where Minimum wage is $33.5 per week and any PC costs at least 17% more (or $819) for my example system. I.e. 6 Months pay at minimum wage or 2 years of aggressive saving.

    The price gap for Internet Bandwidth is even wider. I.e. Your ENTIRE salary at minimum wage would barely pay for entry level ADSL (256K up 128K down)

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  12. Re:Poor places (Re:Hopefully this will start a tre by Forge · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sorry for not completing my point before. In the US, it's a rare individual who is too poor to own a PC with net access. More common is that such an item isn't a priority (I.e. Cable TV with some premium channels or ADSL? Same price, choose one).

    Personally, I don't make enough as an engineer in the 3rd world to afford MIT so this will be useful for personal development. My degree will have to come from a lesser institution.

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  13. I've Been Using It For Awhile... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...and it's great! I'm stuck in a shitty little comm. coll. here where everything is "learn how to use vendor x's program y" and it stinks. I told several profs to their faces now that I'm not coming to any classes when we're not taking a test because there's nothing that I can learn there that I care about or that matters.

    With the Open CourseWare site though, I've started plugging my way through an almost complete cirriculum! I finally got the motivation to learn Java so I could use it in the 6-170 course. The content, organization, and overall structure of the course is incredible (6-170 is by far one of the best classes I've ever had in any subject at any school with any professor ever)! I'm looking forward to following it into the next class I work through on OCW.

    There's no way I can afford to go to MIT - as much as I would love to - but with OCW, at least I can benefit from a great deal of their wisdom with some elbow grease, even without the cash.

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    1. Re:I've Been Using It For Awhile... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yea, MIT and Berkely :)

      A lot of schools these days take money from venduhs (Microsoft is the big one here) and, in return, teach their products rather than theory and solid practice with multiple products. The worst part is, they try to make it look like theory to look good. For example, I got duped bad on the "Intermediate Database Management" course - they market it as a class about RDBMS management, but it's "Access For Dummies" through and through and the teacher knows about as much as RDBMSs as I do about brain surgery. I'm a follower of the writings of Fabian Pascal, C.J. Date (I had actually just wrapped up a rather intensive study of "Database Design" before this miserable class started), and, of course, Codd, so you can imagine how painful that class is.... that's pretty much been the standard tech class at this technological dung heap (the gen ed courses are ok though, so it makes a good jump start to a 4 year to save you money - just avoid program-specific courses like the plague if you care to actually learn anything).

      Unfortunately, from what I've seen, that's the way it works at a lot of schools these days - they teach a product instead of a theory. There are exceptions, of course, but after looking around, I've resigned myself to the fact that unless I come across baskets of cash (and pull my grades up...) I'm not going to get an overall quality tech education anywhere. I can get "bad" for cheap where I am now (temporarily, albeit) or "average" for "somewhat expensive" where I'm planning to go shortly, but anything approaching "good" costs bundles.

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  14. Re:I'm still waiting on Richard Stallman's Guide.. by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 5, Funny
    How to Get Laid, For Nerds.
    That one will be published shortly after "Cold fusion reactors for dummies" and "101 fun things to do while riding the space elevator".
  15. Will this make other schools more competitive? by clusterix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have been through community college and umich and now live in Singapore. I can say that around the world a 4 year degree is not equal. I hope that this will encourage students to beg for better course designs and more advanced knowledge than what 90% of the world currently gets.

    I also hope that engineering faculty will seriously discuss and compare their current curriculums and bring them up to par as much as possible (with in their and their students capability).

  16. Re:Poor places (Re:Hopefully this will start a tre by Forge · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I expected this response. Which is why I made sure to mention where I am. (Jamaica). My information is sourced from actual ambitious immigrants. (You know the kind of people that built your country)

    There are over 1 Million Jamaicans living in the USA (2.7 Million in JA). This means that Every Jamaican here (Including me) has family and friends in the states. Those links don't evaporate when the plane takes off. Many of those Jamaicans leave here with very little education and are lucky to make minimum wage. They still manage to save the kinds of money I mentioned.

    The lifestyle of this uneducated immigrant starts out at less than most Slashdoters can tolerate. Being able to cook each day instead of eating out, having a taste for "5th quarter" (Ox Tail, Turkey Neck) helps to reduce cost. Important things like education are spending priority. They buy second hand repossessed cars as the financial situation improves.

    They live in places like Brucklin and then buy houses in Long Island that are nearly condemned and spend a year fixing it up without professional help then sell it for 2X to 3X the purchase price. a rented Manhattan Apartment is only used if it comes with the job.

    Of course there are those that just become American bums and start collecting welfare as soon as they qualify or get into crime. Lucky for you they are a minority. The IRS says Jamaican Americans are on average wealthier (I.e. Paying more taxes) than Most other ethnic groups.

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  17. Re:Litmus test... by javaxman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Trust me,
    when you're taking some mid-level 'weed-out the weak' physics/math/engineering course and EVERYONE you are competing against was in the top 2% of their graduating class with unbelievable SAT scores, it makes a difference.

    Bell-curve grading in such a scenario can be a real bitch, and profs for whatever reason ( lazyness is my guess ) often use it anyway.

    In my experience, the teachers at less-difficult-to-enter schools have to work a little harder to explain the course material to students, and thus the classes are much more understandable and the learning experience better... and of course, easier. But not necessarily due to grading- it's easier due to the fact that you don't have to either already know the material or teach it to yourself ( or hire a tutor ), which happens at places like MIT and Stanford because the 'teacher' is some math research grad student who is a wiz but is teaching because he has to, not because it's his job, and can't understand how you wouldn't 'get' such basic material. I know this might be taken the wrong way, but at a big-name research university, you can count yourself lucky if your math secton leader can speak understandable english- and they won't know jack about teaching.

    If you really want to learn about Diff Eq's, you might be better off taking the course from Foothill College rather than Leland Stanford, Jr University. Sad but true.

    Of course, you'd rather do your research project at one of the big-name schools, and it always looks better on a resume...

    I finished my BS CS degree, for what it's worth.

  18. Re:Litmus test... by losvedir · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well... As I type this from my dorm room at MIT i'm gonna have to say that doesn't seem quite accurate. The classes here are *really* hard. I'm not sure how hard it is at other schools, but I imagine it would be at least a little easier.

    * My MIT interviewer said that she would talk on the phone with her boyfriend at UC Berkeley, and that after a couple weeks they could no longer talk about the same class, since the MIT one was moving faster. At the send-off party I verified this with him..

    * My Dad went to Cal Tech, thought it was too hard, and then transfered to UC San Diego. He said there was a very notiecable difference in difficulty level in his match courses between the two, so there *are* differences in schools.

    Oh.. and about Harvard and Stanford... those really are just easy schools once you're in.. ;)

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