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TRON Enters Alliance With Microsoft

David writes "As widely reported on OSNews.com, Forbes, IDG, CNet, AustralianIT, and Ashi Shimbun - Microsoft Corp. has entered into an alliance with the T-engine Forum, the consortium behind the free software TRON operating system. As TRON runs billions of devices worldwide, this will help Microsoft's goal of cementing WinCE / .NET in places as diverse as your toaster and cell phone, perhaps in a setup similar to how X-Windows is in relation to the Linux kernel." (Continued below.)

David continues: "This arrangement is ironic, as Microsoft is part of the reason why the U.S. in the 1980s prevented Japan from putting TRON into schools on the desktop by account of trade rules, which would've meant Linux may've never gone beyond being a footnote in the comp.os.minix archives. No doubt Microsoft is aiming to keep Linux out of the embedded space, and may in the long-term foster an environment where using anything other than industry-licenced OS software on the desktop becomes unviable for everyday tasks because all the infratructurial systems we take for granted today like radio, television, phones, IM, require Palladium-style walled gardens."

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  1. This is part of the .NET vs Java war by bizcoach · · Score: 4, Informative
    The main point seems to be:

    The agreement will allow the Windows CE .NET platform for digital devices to work on top of T-Kernel.

  2. Window CE is just one of the middlewares for TE by pario · · Score: 5, Informative
    Everyone here seems to have missed the main point. This alliance only means that Microsoft will create a version of Windows CE .NET that runs on the T-Engine platform. T-Engine is a collection of standards for embedded hardware, realtime operating system and middlewares, and for the T-Engine platform Windows CE .NET will be just one of the middlewares. This news is not even about Microsoft taking over TRON or MS vs Java; in fact, there are T-Java and T-Linux under development, by Sun and Montavista, respectively, and other GUI middlewares on sale, which were originally part of BTRON, the TRON desktop OS. Most information about T-Engine is available only in Japanese at this point, but you can find some in English here.

    As a sidenote, the main thrust of the T-Engine platform is high portabilty of middlewares across various embedded emvironments with different CPUs. This portabilty is made possible by a standard opensource kernel, which is based on micro-ITRON 3.0, and standalization of hardware. Dr. Sakamura even said he is going to fix the specification of the realtime kernel by the end of year and it will not be changed for the next HUNDRED years for the sake of comatibilty of middlewares. Moreover, there are rumors that a subsidary of Panasonic is developing a desktop operating system based on T-Engine. This is a very exciting year for the TRON project indeed.

    1. Re:Window CE is just one of the middlewares for TE by Khalid · · Score: 2, Informative

      Indeed here the press release for T-Linux

      http://www.mvista.com/news/2003/t-engine.html

  3. These guys need help by Air-conditioned+cowh · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here is there address in order to ask them if they are:
    1) Completely mad
    2) In advanced stages of dementia
    3) Under severe coercion
    4) Have a death wish.

    Remember not to sent inflammatory correspondence as this is unlikely to influence them :-)))

    T-Engine Forum Secretariat

    (In the YRP Ubiquitous Networking Laboratory)
    The 28th Kowa Building
    2-20-1 Nishigotanda
    Shinagawa Ward
    Tokyo 141-0031
    Japan
    Tel: +81-3-5437-2270 (Representative)
    Tel: +81-3-5437-2338
    Fax: +81-3-5437-2271

    Email: office@www.t-engine.org

  4. Re:Tron is open source?? by rgcustodio · · Score: 2, Informative

    TRON is not an implementation BUT a set of specifications that describe an OPEN COMPUTER ARCHITECTURE.
    i suggest everyone read this introduction to TRON: http://www.assoc.tron.org/spec/tron_overview_eng.p df

  5. Microsoft a Board Member??? by rgcustodio · · Score: 2, Informative

    anyone of you guys read the T-Engine site??

    http://www.t-engine.org/english/member.html
    it says Microsoft is an A Grade Member and is a Board Member? whoa! i didnt get to see the site before the alliance so did MS just become board member in an instant or what?

  6. Re:Tron is open source?? by kahei · · Score: 4, Informative

    *sigh*

    TRON is a set of standards, SOME of which relate specifically to a realtime OS.

    You can buy the standards from the TRON Association and implement them.

    There is no source, unless you write some.

    Incidentally, how precisely did the parent post get modded *up* rather than *down*? I mean, I don't usually RTFA any more than the next guy, but it's a bit depressing that so many people made their opinions public without stopping to learn what the topic even *is*.

    By the way, MS deal with TRON consists of layering .NET on TRON in the same way many other things are already layered on it (or, to put it another way, making CE .NET conform to the TRON standard). This is a sensible and obvious thing to do and is the kind of thing TRON is designed for. Nothing to see here, tinfoil hats back in pockets please, move along.

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