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TRON Enters Alliance With Microsoft

David writes "As widely reported on OSNews.com, Forbes, IDG, CNet, AustralianIT, and Ashi Shimbun - Microsoft Corp. has entered into an alliance with the T-engine Forum, the consortium behind the free software TRON operating system. As TRON runs billions of devices worldwide, this will help Microsoft's goal of cementing WinCE / .NET in places as diverse as your toaster and cell phone, perhaps in a setup similar to how X-Windows is in relation to the Linux kernel." (Continued below.)

David continues: "This arrangement is ironic, as Microsoft is part of the reason why the U.S. in the 1980s prevented Japan from putting TRON into schools on the desktop by account of trade rules, which would've meant Linux may've never gone beyond being a footnote in the comp.os.minix archives. No doubt Microsoft is aiming to keep Linux out of the embedded space, and may in the long-term foster an environment where using anything other than industry-licenced OS software on the desktop becomes unviable for everyday tasks because all the infratructurial systems we take for granted today like radio, television, phones, IM, require Palladium-style walled gardens."

43 of 303 comments (clear)

  1. But... by condour75 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll never believe it... Tron fights for the users. He'd never work for the MCP.

    1. Re:But... by bludstone · · Score: 2, Funny

      Greetings program.

      --

      no .sig
    2. Re:But... by Xeth · · Score: 3, Funny
      He'd never work for the MCP.

      Get with the times man! Now they're calling it TCPA...

      --
      If your theory is different from practice, then your theory is wrong.
    3. Re:But... by oolon · · Score: 2, Funny

      [End of Line]

    4. Re:But... by Bendebecker · · Score: 2, Funny

      Get a clu.

      --
      There's a growing sense that even if The Future comes,
      most of us won't be able to afford it.
      -- Lemmy
    5. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Do you have any idea how many outside systems I've gone into? How many programs I've appropriated?

      Regards, Bill Gates

    6. Re:But... by INSSOMNIAK · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Hi there! Would you like some toast?"

  2. Shoot me now! by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 4, Funny

    Too late, they already put Windows on my gun, and it just keeps rebooting when I pull the trigger.

    1. Re:Shoot me now! by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Too late, they already put Windows on my gun, and it just keeps rebooting when I pull the trigger."

      I tried to commit suicide using a Linux based gun. Unfortunately, by the time I figured out the right switches for the sht command, I felt better!

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    2. Re:Shoot me now! by dvdeug · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unfortunately, by the time I figured out the right switches for the sht command, I felt better!

      RTFM. It's sht [options] [caliber] [number of bullets], where -l is for lead bullets, -number is how you specify the number of the body part you want to shoot (where the default is in the air), -h for high velocity, and -q for auto reload. How much easier could it get?

    3. Re:Shoot me now! by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Funny

      "RTFM. It's sht [options] [caliber] [number of bullets], where -l is for lead bullets, -number is how you specify the number of the body part you want to shoot (where the default is in the air), -h for high velocity, and -q for auto reload. How much easier could it get?"

      I tried to use the auto feature for caliber, and it wasn't working. I had to look that up. Oh, and it's -H not -h. Stupid man page had a typo in it.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    4. Re:Shoot me now! by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 2, Funny
      > Too late, they already put Windows on my gun, and it just keeps rebooting when I pull the trigger.

      That's just how it goes. If it didn't reboot, then you would've had a fatal error :p

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      Stop the Slashdot effect! Don't read the articles!
    5. Re:Shoot me now! by EvilAlien · · Score: 2, Funny
      Bah, the n00b should just use DrakSuicide and let the wizard walk him through it. He's not ready for the command line.

      Disclaimer: I am a Mandrake user, and I used DrakSlashdot to post this

      --
      perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10)'
    6. Re:Shoot me now! by iebgener · · Score: 3, Funny

      How much easier could it get?

      well, you need to be root to do that.

    7. Re:Shoot me now! by kubrick · · Score: 3, Funny

      -number is how you specify the number of the body part you want to shoot (where the default is in the air)

      An improvement on the first version, where the default was the foot.

      --
      deus does not exist but if he does
    8. Re:Shoot me now! by sonoluminescence · · Score: 2, Funny

      I heard you can still use the -flintlock switch for BSD compatibility.

      --
      Karma: Bad. Calmer, good.
    9. Re:Shoot me now! by nojayuk · · Score: 2, Funny
      Too late, they already put Windows on my gun, and it just keeps rebooting when I pull the trigger.

      That's what you get when you use a point-and-click interface with a killer app.

  3. BSOLC by forsetti · · Score: 4, Funny

    Blue Screen of Light-Cycle?

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    10b||~10b -- aah, what a question!
  4. Sorry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    I don't want a MS powered toaster. It would bring down my power network, and I would be open to power line viruses. Besides, it might start doing weird things and throw the toast at the ceiling for no reason, or just refuse to toast, and I'd have to reboot the toaster to get it to work again...

    No thanks! Spare me the Microsoft stuff and give me a good old mechanical toaster! Yah!!

    1. Re:Sorry... by LordOfYourPants · · Score: 4, Funny

      If my toaster were Linux powered, my toast would come out perfectly every time. The caveat is that the toast would have to be cut up into 40 pieces and thrown up into the air because the toaster is mounted on the ceiling and everyone who suggests that it should go on a counter would be told "You can open up the toaster and see the guts. Go build your own."

      On top of that, no one knows that they have to cut their toast into 40 pieces before a perfect toasting session because asking for help with their toaster nets them a "RTFM," leading them to a 400 page manual that explains everything but they kitchen sink when they just want to have a piece of toast. That, or they get directed to toast tech support which charges them $50 a year for a straight answer.

      There'd be a ToastMaster who would decide when and where the latest model of the toaster gets released. Again, other gizmo fans could roll their own toaster, but people taking on names like ToasterOne would end up getting in shit for doing so.

    2. Re:Sorry... by eclectro · · Score: 2, Funny

      The OS with MS bloat will require a 200 Gb hard disk to fit it on, fortunately it doubles as the heating element

      No, that would be silly. Everybody knows that the toaster will have an internet connection where it can download the variuos .net services into ram.

      You will have perfect toast every time.

      And when there are death-related incidents due to the SOtoast virus Microsoft will be able to quickly download a patch to your toaster.

      --
      Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
  5. What's going on here by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 2, Funny

    MS: Who are your users?

    TRON: Forget it mister high mighty Microsoft. You aren't making me talk.

    MS: Suit yourself

    *derez of TRON commences*

  6. Re:I for one by TheIzzy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Err, shouldn't that be "I for one welcome our Microsoft Overlords... Again"

  7. Shit... by Bendebecker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where's Flynn when ya need him?

    Sark: "You're just an ordinary program!"
    Flynn:"So are you. One that should have been erased."

    Flynn:"Come on, how can you expect to rule the world if you can't solve a few unsolvable problems."

    --
    There's a growing sense that even if The Future comes,
    most of us won't be able to afford it.
    -- Lemmy
  8. This just in... by NMerriam · · Score: 4, Funny

    TRON and Microsoft are only working together on a new security system that will be able to protect heterogeneous systems from attack, so there is no reason to worry.

    The first SDK for this software ("Skynet") should be out in about 18 months.

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    Recursive: Adj. See Recursive.
    1. Re:This just in... by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

      "The first SDK for this software ("Skynet") should be out in about 18 months."

      6 years later, after the war is over, the OSS community will have finally finished making an Open Source copy of the system. There were no problems with the launch of Kskynet as it didn't have enough features to make it self-aware.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  9. Oh Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Better than having to pay an extra $699 to SCO for my toaster.

    1. Re:Oh Well by Clanwolfer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Better than having to pay an extra $699 to SCO for my toaster.

      No, you'd just have to pay SCO their special reduced price for embreaded Linux systems.

      --
      I've traveled so far. So how come this wheely thing I'm in hasn't gone anywhere?
  10. Re:such a shame by Bendebecker · · Score: 3, Funny

    "The only ray of hope here, is that it will provide a great impetus to embeded linux."
    Nope, the only hope here is if one of us users can get into the system and liberate TRON before he gets the bits blasted out of him on the game grid.

    --
    There's a growing sense that even if The Future comes,
    most of us won't be able to afford it.
    -- Lemmy
  11. not looking forward... by s0rbix · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm not looking forward to the BSOD on my toaster...

    1. Re:not looking forward... by IanBevan · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not looking forward to the BSOD on my toaster...

      Is that a Brown Slice Of Death ?

  12. Evil MCP by rindeee · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, wait a minute. I always knew there was something strange about those Microsoft Certified Professionals and they ugly biege MCP polo shirts that were tucked frumpilly into their 38" Husky "big boy" denims. Little did I know how deep their dasterdliness ran. /shutter/

    ER

  13. In Microsoft America... by phillymjs · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..."Windows Powered"(TM) toaster sticks fork in YOU!

    ~Philly

  14. They've Already Done It! by serutan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Talkie Toaster

    Would anybody like some toast?
    Well then, would anybody like some toast?

  15. MCP? by Schnake · · Score: 4, Funny

    Microsoft Certified Professionals?

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    * Before someone tries to corrects me, don't worry, I already know the reference to Tron the movie.

  16. I'm all for it... by Mrs.+Grundy · · Score: 2, Funny

    if it means that when I can't figure out how to use a kitchen appliance a little anthropomorphized cartoon refrigerator character pops up, waves at me and tells me what to do.

  17. Clippy ][ by dswensen · · Score: 2, Funny

    This will mark the return of Clippy, mark my words.

    It appears you're trying to make toast. Would you...

    A) Like advice on which bread to use?
    B) Adjust your toast settings (will require Microsoft TOAST(TM)(R) Install CD)
    C) Prepare your spread of choice?
    D) Just go make some damn eggs (Microsoft Eggs will open in new window)

  18. Re:such a shame by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Leopards don't change their spots
    Lions don't lie with lambs
    Microsoft doesn't play well with others"


    Ah, but caterpillars turn into butterflies. Your argument is defeated! Buahaha!

    See how easy it is to attack an argument that overly relies on metaphor? I'm really suprised you were modded up.

  19. My dog eats butterflies! by pr0ntab · · Score: 2, Funny

    Therefore: BSD is dying, QED.

    Wait, now I'm confused. What was this analogy about?

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    Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
  20. The library barrel-1.2.2.4 has not been found by melted · · Score: 2, Funny

    Please download it off some obscure site, then satisfy its dependencies then satisfy the dependencies of its dependencies only to find out that it either blows up when you use sht command or would not compile due to bugs in the code/different GCC version/missing files.

  21. Re:such a shame by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Funny

    "The early bird gets the worm" vs. "Good things come to those that wait."

    I prefer this one:

    "The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse always gets the cheese!"

    --
    "Derp de derp."
  22. Hmmm... by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe that joke about Microsoft making something that doesn't suck (vacuum cleaner) may be coming to real life very soon?

  23. GNU by kahei · · Score: 3, Funny


    You may be thinking of a vendor sht. He's probably using GNU sht, which takes caliber etc from a file of tab (NOT space -- think make!) separated records -- exact syntax available in handy 'info' format.

    Frankly it's easier to just use windows and call IFirearmsEx::WGunSystemBulletOperationShootEx32(HG UN gun, HAMMO ammo, LPTRAJECTORY trajectory, LPSHOOTPARAMS params, DWORD reserved1, DWORD reserved2, BOOL &bHitYesNo)

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    Whence? Hence. Whither? Thither.