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Snail Mail As E-Mail

techcon writes "An Australian startup Planetwide has launched an interesting product called Scan Me. The idea is simple, you redirect your snail mail to them and they scan your physical mail and email it all to you as a text searchable PDF. Targeted at the world wide traveller, it also looks like a good way to help prevent identity theft and getting nasty white powder in the mail."

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  1. Stop identity theft? by SirCrashALot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How would this stop identity theft. Unless you use TLS/SSL email is less secure than snail mail -- its not traveling across bare network wires.

    1. Re:Stop identity theft? by waitigetit · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My thoughts exactly. This company is asking for a whole lot of attention from black-hat crackers. Instead of one bank statement, they can get thousands.

      Also, reading it in some internet cafe in Beijing will probably leave it in the temp directory. I really don't think this is a good idea.

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    2. Re:Stop identity theft? by Charbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm also not seeing how this could stop identity theft. If you use this program, aren't you putting your mail in front of the eyeballs of the person that's scanning them?

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    3. Re:Stop identity theft? by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 4, Insightful
      If you are really worried about people reading your discarded mail, you would do better getting a paper shredder.

      A decent shredder with two sets of blades will reduce your bills to the size of punched card chads. For extra points, mix it with vegetable scraps and put it into your compost bin. Or reduce it to paper pulp by mixing with water, and boiling it for a few minutes :-).

    4. Re:Stop identity theft? by DuSTman31 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or even just buy a hamster.

      Really, I'm always amazed how fast hamsters and the like can chew through a stack of papers. Not to mention, they're also cheaper than an actual shredder. Cute too.

    5. Re:Stop identity theft? by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'm a WebFlix subscriber and I know of at least three discs that have been stolen on the way to me in the last six months. Worse still, my mail has been stolen from downstairs several times and used for identity theft. Any loser can press a buzzer, walk into your lobby and grab the mail but it takes much more skill to hack a decently secured server.

      I know the guys/girls who are doing this and he's a maverick on the security front so I'd trust his servers any day over snail mail.

      The other services are bloody handy for travellers too. They can keep scans of your travel documents available should the worst happen. That's gotta be worth the price of admission.

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    6. Re:Stop identity theft? by Viceice · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Don't stop there. Put bleech in the pulp then set the pulp in wire mesh squares and leave it out to dry and you'll have good home made recycled paper.

      Honest

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    7. Re:Stop identity theft? by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes but do you have proof about your discs getting stolen in the mail? Probably not. Your mail getting stolen from your building, well, that's a different story. First off, tampering and stealing mail is punishable by law. Intercepting e-mail probably is too, but it's MUCH more likely to happen without you knowing then your mail getting swiped.

      My mail is curb delivered, yet I feel more comfortable getting stuff there then I do having this scan deal done. Sure there's a possibility of it getting picked up out of the box, but we usually have someone home and as soon as it gets there, my wife gets it. Never had a problem yet with it getting swiped but the first time I did I can put a mail box in that will let the mail man in and keep everyone else out. They have mailboxes that let the mail man open it once and then when he closes it, it locks. THere are also ways to work with your local post office on securing youe mail. You can have a lock on it if you can manage to set it up with your post master. In any case, I don't feel comfortable letting some mailroom dude scan my mail because he has to open it first. I don't care if the POPE is running the company, I still don't trust it.

      As far as scanned travel documents go, I can set that up myself and there are almost always computers near locations you may need these papers.

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  2. I use a similar service already by Nugget · · Score: 5, Informative
    I have been using a similar service from PayTrust for about a year now. Their focus is on bills, which is really the only mail I receive that I want to ensure I handle in a timely manner. I travel quite a bit for work and find it invaluable to be able to receive and pay my bills while on the road.

    When a new bill arrives, I get an email and I can view the scan of the bill online through the paytrust website. I can pay the bill automatically, if I choose, by establishing per-payee rules (always pay bill [foo] as long as it is under [y] dollars) and that sort of thing.

    At the end of the year they send me a CD-ROM that contains all that year's bills and payments for my archives, allowing me to store everything in a much more space efficient way than I'd have with paper files.

    It's a great service, although I don't know that I would find much benefit if they started handling all my mail and not just my bills. Mail I get is either bills, junk, or physical things which I wouldn't want in scanned form.

    1. Re:I use a similar service already by Pretor · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The banks in Norway has been doing this for year already. With no or low cost, and no paper; the bills are electronic. Combinded with their really good Internet banking services I no longer go to the bank, have to check any of the regular bills and so on. And because of almost 100% "visa" card coverage I don't use cash any longer. I can even buy the bus ticket using a credit or debit card.

      I wonder why people in other countries has to still use checks, bills and etc. I haven't seen a checkbook in Norway for about 10-15 years.

      My sister lives in San Francisco, and boy do the US need to get into the modern age when it comes to banking and payment.

  3. Privacy by flibble-san · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't like the idea of someone reading my personal snail mail. I'm sure they get a laugh out of finding out "Mr Jones" subscribes to Busty Babes monthly etc.

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  4. Hmmm... by BJH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Doesn't sound so great to me. A lot of things that come in the mail are sent that way *because* they have to reach you physically - a new credit card, etc.

  5. Scanning _and_ forwarding by achurch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The summary doesn't mention it, but not only do they scan everything you get, they forward it to you once you're somewhere you can receive it, so you still have the paper originals. And for those who are paranoid about having confidential documents sent via E-mail, they let you cut the scanning step out and just treat it as an ordinary forwarding address.

    It doesn't say anything about whether they're offering this to people outside of Australia, but it's certainly interesting for those of us who move frequently. I wonder if this will start a "permanent postal address hosting" service genre like Hotmail did with E-mail.

  6. remailemail.com by daveo0331 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This service lets you send an email, and have it converted to a snail mail letter and sent to someone. So if you combined the two services, you could send an email which would be converted to snail mail, then the recipient could convert the snail mail to an email that they could read from any computer in the world.

    Oh wait...

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  7. Tax returns and ATM cards by aardwolf204 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh yeah, cant wait to get my tax return check in PDF. Try explaining that one to the bank teller

    Or better yet how about my ATM/Credit card?

    Do you take plastic?
    VISA, MasterCard, Discover and Amex
    Great -- Hands over printed card

    Awkward Pause (tm)

    Yeah, I had to print it since it came in my email...
    ...Honest!

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  8. Are you mad? by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Targeted at the worldwide traveler, it also looks like a good way to help prevent identity theft

    Are you mad? You mean having someone else read your mail and then send it in a searchable format over the Internet is a good way to prevent identity theft? Is today opposite day?

  9. Subscription by rf0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't want them forwarding me a scan of my monthly Playboy. Hmm on second thoughts :)

    Rus

  10. Re:this is dandy but.. by chill · · Score: 4, Interesting

    what i really need is the other way around. I send them the email, they print it out and snail mail it for me

    CompuServe was offering that service back in 1989. You could send an "e-mail" to a physical address. They would print it out at their office closest to the final destination and stick it in the mail.

    It cost something like $1.25 for the first 8x11 sheet and $.15 for each sheet after that.

    I remember trying this out and having e-letters delivered from Orlando, FL to places like Kalamazoo, MI and Seattle, WA in 2 days.

    I still think this would be a good idea.

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  11. USPS approach to E-mail by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative
    From the article:
    • It's worth noting, perhaps, that in the early days of the Internet, it was proposed that the U. S. Post Office manage e-mail. Electronic messages would come to your local post office and then be delivered to you along with the regular mail. The proposal was not considered for very long.
    No, not only was it considered, it was actually implemented and deployed. It was called E-COM, and it operated from 1982 to 1985.

    And it was really dumb.

    The USPS put in a system with a mainframe computer and "high-speed" printers in major regional post offices. Mailers could submit mail jobs as IBM remote job entry jobs over dedicated SNA links. The interface was so one-way that error messages came back as paper mail a day or two later.

    E-COM was for first class mail, sent in bulk. You had to send at least 200 letters to a single regional post office in a day, so it was useless for general business mail. It cost as much as first class mail, so it was useless for advertising. Mailers couldn't have a return envelope included, so it was useless for bills. Western Union did establish an extra-cost consolidation and routing service, so you sent your mail to them and they routed the messages and batched up jobs for the USPS. But few people signed up.

  12. Great, so now I can find out what a pdf of. . . by kfg · · Score: 4, Funny

    an AOL disk looks like.

    KFG

  13. Oh dear by cca93014 · · Score: 4, Funny

    it also looks like a good way to help prevent identity theft and getting nasty white powder in the mail.

    Some people I know would be more than happy receiving white powder in the mail.

  14. I don't know where to start... by spook+brat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wow. In the United States there are federal laws protecting both the content and *addresses* for all mail sent through the US Postal Service. If Big Brother wants to watch you there are oversight requirements (ie. the watcher must be watched) for the simple act of scanning the addresses on an envleope. The requirements are more stringent if BB wants to actually open your letter and read its contents. I don't remember off hand at what point it takes a Judge to sign off on it, I'd have to look it up.

    If you're using this "Scan Me" service, however, they can intercept your mail once it leaves US Postal Service channels with much lower levels of scrutiny - they'd just need to walk up and ask the nice people at Planetwide to do their civic duty. In fact, if Carnivore is still running (and I'm paranoid enough to believe it might be) then they wouldn't need to contact the Planetwide staff at all. The Feds could just go to Planetwide's ISP and monitor the traffic, reading the information unencrypted as it flies by on the 'Net.

    The ACLU can't protect your civil liberties if you are asking third parties to copy all of your private correspondence into the electronic equivalent of postcards. No, scratch that, postcards are still covered by the same Federal laws as normal (sealed) mail. This is copying to postacrds and re-routing through a network of untrusted private couriers. =[

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  15. Is October 1st in Australia like our April 1st? by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Insightful
    it also looks like a good way to ....

    Yea, like this is really going to work. And how much is it going to cost me to have them forward each rebate check I get, not to mention what it cost for them to scan it in the first place? Think spam was expensive before? Wait until you pay for scanning all the junk mail that you get in snail mail, or all the crap packed in with your bills. Say goodbye to ever getting a magazine subscription. No free samples in the mail any more, and no cookies from Mom at Christmas time. And I'm paying for this why? Because I fear identity theft? So that then they can e-mail my private mail to me as clear text? So that an unknown number of people at that company I know nothing about all see all of my mail?

    Face it, the always-on-the-go world traveler who just might (but I think it unlikely) get anything out of this has other means to deal with it: a personal assistant, express shipments that can catch up to the next hotel he will be at, faxes for some documents, he doesn't need an outside company poking through his business. The average smuck (like most of us) wants that mail, and knows that some of it needs to be dealt with on a timely basis (If someone sends me tickets, for example, I want them before the event, not a week after), and that some of it will get "lost" if an outside company is opening it and going through it.

    Bad idea. Oh, also, the company will be out of business in six months.

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  16. Top 5 Mail you'll never receive this way by rjamestaylor · · Score: 5, Funny

    5) Columbia House CD of the Month Club selection
    4) Beer of the Month Club selection
    3) Oh...look - shiny!
    2) Cookies? What cookies?
    1) Congratulations! You're the Publisher's Clearinghouse winner!

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