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SGI's Letter to the Linux Community

_Upsilon_ writes "SGI has released a letter to the Linux community in response to SCO's recent threat to revoke the UNIX licence for Irix. The letter mentions that they inadvertently did submit some System V code into the Linux kernel, that has since been removed (and some more in the process of being removed). The article points out that the code fragments in question had already been released into the public domain as well."

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  1. SCO Reply by briggsb · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO is quick with their reply to SGI.

  2. Tommorows news today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO CEO Darl McBride remained true to form when he responded to the SGI letter, "IRIX infringes upon our IP, this means that motion pictures featuring graphics rendered on SGI is a derivative work of our UNIX SysV code. We are not just talking a couple in frames, we are talking entire movies here".

    The film at 11 is now the intellectual property of the SCO group.

  3. Re:Moderators: Karma Whore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hate karma whoring ACs...

  4. Re:Don't /. these guys by motte_fra · · Score: 5, Funny

    serving text/plain is quite strenuous on those small servers

  5. Re:To Paraphrase by Ayaress · · Score: 0, Funny

    Not very well paraphrased... The letter was from SGI, not SCO. A more accurate paraphrasing: Dear SCO, Please go suck and egg. Thank you, and have a nice day. SGI. PS: We sent this to the Linux Community since you seem to have blocked our emails. I'm sure you'll get it either way.

  6. Re:Uh-oh... by bladernr · · Score: 4, Funny
    Even if it had merit, the fact that McBride ranted about it renders that merit void.

    Oh dear, if ranting makes a point void, the /. community is voiding an awful lot of points :)

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  7. Given sco's record of press releases and FUD by snakecoder · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't wait to see how they will spin this. "SGI ADMITS PLACING SCO CODE IN LINUX!" maybe time to day trade today.

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  8. Re:Illustrates how weak SCO's case is by Shimbo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Prepare for more crazy ramblings from SCO in the immediate future. They will undoubtedly issue a press release claiming this is an admission of wrongdoing by SGI and play up the aspect of the letter that suggest missappropriated code, but of course this is not the message to be taken from the SGI letter.

    You can almost write the SCO selective quotation press release yourself:

    "SGI has released over a million lines of...System V code...in the Linux kernel."

  9. The post script got cut off by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 2, Funny

    P.S. Darl, print a copy of this letter, fold it sharp edges out and stuff it you know where. Best regards, Rich.

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  10. Re:So that's where it came from!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    IMMATERIAL. You cannot just "take back" code and say everything is OK.

    Agreed. That 200 lines of atoi() code is definitely worth THREE BILLION DOLLARS. Once SGI took it from SCO and mixed it in with that cheap illegitimate kernel, it became soiled and worthless. Just because SGI gave the ruined, debased code back to SCO, it doesn't begin to redress SCO's loss of THREE BILLION DOLLARS.

    If SGI had not destroyed SCO's THREE BILLION DOLLAR cash pile, SCO would be a major player in the Fortune 500 right now. Justice demands fair compensation, not just token actions.

  11. Re:Isn't SCO costing people a lot of money? by trybywrench · · Score: 2, Funny

    well they're costing /. a lot of disk anyway.

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  12. Re:atoi? by Stonent1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "found brief fragments of code matching System V code in three generic routines (ate_utils.c, the atoi function " they're complaining about copied atoi code?!?!?! exactly how many variations of converting ascii to integers could there be? And why would anyone care about something so simple? Unless it was a FUD screen...

    Yeah but if SGI made a version of atoi, surely it exploits vector optimizations, runs in 64 bits of precision, exploits NUMA and uses OpenGL. It may be 10x the size of the kernel but whoa, it's gotta be cool.

  13. Re:Uh-oh... by IWannaBeAnAC · · Score: 5, Funny
    My God! You are right! SCO have forced SGI to admit that core, critical components of Linux have actually been ripped out of System V! I mean, take one example from the massive 200 lines of offending code: the atoi(3) function. Yep, a function of such mind-blowing sophistication and complexity that it takes a NULL-terminated string argument and converts it to an integer. It is true, the Linux community lacks the technical ability to reproduce this function, hence the necessity to rip it from System V. Yes, this really is a tragic day for Linux.


    Perhaps there is already a freely-available atoi(3) implementation that can be used by the Kernel? Yes, in fact there is! Even better, it coincides with the atoi(3) function that was removed! Woohoo! We are saved! There is not even eny need to look further afield, like the multitude of *other* free implementations around the place (say, glibc? BSD?), or (at last resort) actually finding a master C programmer to lock himself in a room for the long winter months in an effort to come up with an independent implementation.


    The funniest thing is, that it probably WOULD take a huge effort by a master programmer to actually find an implementation of atoi(3) that was truely independent ;-)

  14. SCO's *real* objective by phliar · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've got it! The real objective behind these ridiculous statements SCO is making: to consolidate and solidify support for the GPL and Linux by making large companies like IBM and SGI make public statements in support! Sure, contributing code to Linux is all very well, but until now the press releases had always been a little diffident and scattered. Now the industry is unified and strong in support of Linux and the GPL. Since the GPL hadn't been tested in court, what better way to help than by filing a completely ridiculous case against it? "The GPL is invalid because US Copyright Law only allows you to make one copy."

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  15. Re:Uh-oh... by typobox43 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't think the ranting makes the point void. I think the ranter makes it void.

  16. I hate to admit it. by eadint · · Score: 1, Funny

    But i kick myself every time i think. instead of blasting SCO. i could have bought $2k of stock the day they sued IBM. sold a month ago, iand i would have a G5 a new powerbook and one of those athlon thingys.
    DARN morals suxors.

  17. Re:Uh-oh... by drakaan · · Score: 3, Funny
    sounds more to me like SGI was spinning it "Well, we did remove some code, but we only did it so SCO would have abso-fucking-lutely nothing to complain about. We investigated, found that most, if not all, of the code had been released into the public domain, and that a lot of it already had better, existing implementations in the Linux kernel. Oh, yeah, and we can do whatever we want to with XFS, because we wrote it, and it's not derivative of anything in SYSV.".

    They probably could have added a hearty "Kiss my ass and hug my nuts" to SCO in there, but they kept it pretty civil...

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  18. Re:Uh-oh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Who the FUCK is "Saddam Hussan" and why would he want to use stolen SCO code?

    He's a terrorist. Only terrorists use stolen SCO code.

  19. Re:End user liable? by TrippyZ · · Score: 2, Funny

    >GM should only sew Ford,

    Its a stitchup.

  20. I've figured out how SCO will spin this by yeremein · · Score: 5, Funny
    SGI says:
    All together, these three small code fragments comprised no more than 200 lines out of the more than one million lines of our overall contributions to Linux. Notably, it appears that most or all of the System V code fragments we found had previously been placed in the public domain, meaning it is very doubtful that the SCO Group has any proprietary claim to these code fragments in any case.

    Tomorrow's SCO press release will say:

    All together, these ... code fragments comprised ... more than one million lines of ... System V code ... that the SCO Group has ... proprietary claim to.
  21. Re:Won't destroy Sun by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 3, Funny

    What IS this anti-Sun thing on Slashdot??

    Slashdot is populated by nerds that live in caves of steel, surrounded by nifty little electronic gadgets that never actually get used for their intended purpose. Slashdotters hate the sun because it hurts their eyes and tans their skin, but mostly they hate the sun because there are other people out there.

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  22. Whore? by Kommet · · Score: 5, Funny
    Um, yeah. A "Karma Whore" who can't possibly get Karma for posting this since it was posted AC. Now calling him/her/it a "Karma Thief" I could get behind!

    Hey, now there's an idea!

    A new class of hated Slashdot readers: evil Karma Thieves who post an article as an Anonymous Coward, thus depriving all the good, honest, hard-working Karma Whores of their cheap-ass mod points.