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Open Source Making Inroads in Small Businesses

prostoalex writes "In a story mainly about new OpenOffice release, NewsFactor Network quotes an interesting finding of Jupiter Research analyst: "Open-source productivity suites did "surprisingly well" in the mid-size business market, with the OpenOffice suite alone claiming a share of about 6%. Furthermore, [Joe Wilcox] found that some 19% of small businesses ran Linux on their desktop, and a whopping 26% ran Linux on their servers.""

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  1. OpenOffice in schools... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If only schools could switch to OpenOffice to, and we could probably get rid of the MS Office dominance for ever in a few years...

    1. Re:OpenOffice in schools... by altair87 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Trying --- I am a Tech Director at a school. We are handing out copies of OpenOffice to students to install at home. Pushing teachers to use it in their classes (that's the hardest part getting the teachers to change - not the students)

      If OO sticks around there will be more and more future employees clamoring for it.

    2. Re:OpenOffice in schools... by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If only schools could switch to OpenOffice to, and we could probably get rid of the MS Office dominance for ever in a few years...

      I'm working on a project to recycle old computer parts into working computers for schools. The school I'm working with now has no money... none. That's why we're doing this. So I can't very well turn around and ask the school to drop a couple hundred for an OS for each computer they get. Obviously we will be using 100% open source - OpenOffice on Linux.


      Interestingly, for all the complaining I hear about underfunded schools, some schools refused free computers because they didn't look like the others that they had purchased. Even more refused because they had to choose between using Linux free or paying for an OS.

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    3. Re:OpenOffice in schools... by stephenbooth · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A couple of weeks ago my 12 year old neice (who uses Microsoft Word at school) was visiting (well my sister was visiting and unfortunately the kids come with her) and wanted to type up some home work on my PC. I sat her down in front of the PC and started up OpenOffice.org for her automatically (it's what I use myself, I only have MS Office on there cos a) it was already there and b) sometimes OpenOffice.org has problems with MS files). She'd been working for about 2 hours and had produced about 3 pages with a number of font styles and some inserted graphics she'd pulled out of my clip art folder before she realised it wasn't Microsoft Office she was using. She's not brighter than most other kids her age and that was the first time she'd used OpenOffice.org.

      Stephen

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  2. Hoax ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I ran into several companies and except one, no one runs Linux as a Desktop operating Systems, and every computer runs Micorsoft Office.

    Strange, is not it ? I don't believe in that report

  3. No surprise... by Xentax · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For those companies that are:

    1) Big enough to worry about getting busted with unlicensed (pirated and/or over-installed legal copies of) software, but
    2) Unwilling to spend $x99.99 on Office per seat,

    OpenOffice is a no-brainer alternative. Heck, Notepad is a better choice for some percentage of the staff, I'm sure.

    It's pretty much inevitable -- good research becomes commoditized over time, everything from Velcro on the Space Shuttle to Spelling and Grammar checking in a Word Processor. I'm actually sort of surprised that it's taken this long for a Free office suite to start (more accurately, to be SEEN to be) really getting into mainstream commercial use.

    Still, I think there will always be a percentage of people who want the latest and greatest features, and organizations that are willing to spend to provide them. And organizations with the money to spend will continue to standardize across their staff, etc.

    IMHO, neither 'side' (MS, Oracle, etc. on one side and Linux, OpenOffice, MySQL etc. on the other) should really focus on 'winning'. Keep those core users, go after the others. MS is gradually learning to be competitive instead of anti-competitive, something that will benefit both sides in the long run.

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  4. Easy way to verify it by ajs318 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It would not be too hard to verify Open Office.org's market share by experiment. All we need to do is start sending out .sxw and .sxc attachments. If we get e-mails asking what programme opens them, we tell them Open Office {though I'd expect MS Office to be able to open them just fine; after all, the Open Office.org file formats are public knowledge, whereas the MS office file formats are closely-guarded secrets}.

    Also, it might give some people a dose of their own medicine.

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  5. Those numbers sound questionable. by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I visit tons of small businesses, and this guys telling me 1 in 4 are running linux somewhere?

    And what exactly does he call a small business? Are these .com startups or what? Sounds like a dataset skewed towards tech-oriented businesses.

    I mean, your local mom and pop dry cleaner or deli stand doesn't usually have a server farm in the closet or care how many megaflips per flop the electrowizzer can do.

    When I think small business and computers, I think of a cheap dell in the corner running QuickBooks..

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    1. Re:Those numbers sound questionable. by Evil+Pete · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I recently wandered into a bottle shop to buy some beer. So I plonk it down on the counter and the checkout-chick scans it and I then notice that the PC she is using is running an app in KDE! Holy crap I think ... then I think striking up a conversation with her about Linux and KDE would not impress. Ah well.

      But if the task bar hadn't been visible I just would never have known.

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  6. I'm in that 26% by cenonce · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm a solo practicing lawyer with one employee. I use two Macs for desktop stuff, but keep all my firm files on a Linux x86 Server I built and set-up myself. The Macs mount the shares via NFS. It also acts as a print server. I've never had a problem with it and would never be able to afford to have a dedicated server if I had to pay Microsoft licensing fees. I also figure I saved myself about a thousand bucks by using Linux instead of buying OS X server and another Mac capable of acting as a server.

    -A

  7. Makes perfect sense by _underSCORE · · Score: 5, Interesting

    About five years ago, I set up a linux server at my godfather's business, and it's been running like a tank since then. It replaced an NT machine that required constant fixing and administration on his end. Since he's not the most savvy user, this was a constant source of complaint for him.

    The linux machine grew with his business, and was only recently replaced (due to a motherboard failure). When I asked him what kind of OS he wanted on the new server, the choice was clear: Linux. Since it requires so little maintenance (none from him and only remote administration from me) he's been one of the most vocal Linux advocates in the small business community, and had several business in our area come in to see how well Linux works with their existing technologies.

    Did we have trouble? Yeah... ACT didn't like to be on a SAMBA share (until I found out it needed oplock tweaking), and getting tech support from his ISP was troublesome, but once everything was set up, there was nothing more to do.

    Small businesses often can't afford to have a full time IT person, so this kind of set it and forget it proposition makes great business sense.

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  8. Re:Stages by Daengbo · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I know you were kind of joking (trolling?), but my business, too, is 99% open source (except flash, acrobat, etc...) and we are at the forefront of teaching OS programs like The Gimp in Thailand. It is a big selling point.

  9. Not this company by inteller · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For s small development company like this one, nothing beats the deal MSDN gives you. If you shop around you can get universal subscription for around 1k and that gives you enough dev licences to ALL of their software. The time saved from not having to reinvent the wheel pays for itself.

  10. Re:Excellent to see... by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2, Interesting
    especially considering that $400 gets you not only a word processor, but a spreadsheet, presentation software, database software, personal information management software, etc. etc. And clip art libraries. And all kinds of other useful crap.

    That's still not worth $400. Office suite software is a commodity item now. All of the problems involved with creating such software were solved 10 years ago. (That's why Microsoft is trying to invent new problems that we didn't know we needed, like DRM'd spreadsheets.)

    For $400, I would expect to get some kind of specialized cutting-edge software, like a midrange 3D modelling/rendering package, not a bag of 15-year old generic office tools.

    The only thing that allows MS Office to command its $400 price tag is the fact that so many useres have locked their data into its proprietary file format. That's what you're paying the gatekeeper for: access to your files and the files of others who are in the same situation.

    If you look at the history of various industries, such a gatekeeper position is an unstable situation. It takes the utmost in business skill to maintain such a distorted marketplace when you're not providing intrinsic value. Microsoft may one day lose their grip on this golden goose, but OTOH they have shown unsurpassed skill managing their market so far. Only time will tell.

  11. This says it all by mormop · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If so, a Microsoft spokesperson did not show it when he gave a cool response about his company's faith in the free market -- a safe bet when that company owns over 90 percent of the market for desktop-productivity suites, according to Wilcox's research.

    and

    Hiser said that OpenOffice version 1.1, due this week, can translate Microsoft files with an accuracy of 90 percent.
    But anything less than 100 percent is not good enough, Wilcox noted.


    So at the end of the day, why all the poncing around with Media Player and Explorer at the anti-trust trial. Bundling these two packages into Windows pales into insignificence in the MS monopoly when compared to the constantly changing and jealously guarded MSOffice file formats.

    Until Microsoft is forced to compete on the quality and features of MS Office (neither of which are worth the price over OO.org) as opposed to locking everyone else out with convoluted file structures they will have a stranglehold on business.

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  12. Helping out small biz by dumping MS Office.... by im+a+fucking+coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been asked for help over the past couple of years for by a small business contractor, but have always bumped up against the OpenOffice translation problem, so just helped with with the File/Print server on RH.

    Finally, I said to hell with MS in any new office installs unless they don't want my help. Amazingly, OpenOffice works like hell on wheels when it isn't having to translate screwed up table formats, etc., and the contractor is able to lower his price for desktop support by a third because of far fewer infected/BSD'd machines. (Admittedly, he's really scoring here because his daily calls dropped by more than 70% at the new sites, and emergency calls stopped altogether.)

    I guess the moral of the story is, make a clean break from MS whenever possible to realize the greatest efficiency increase, period.

    BTW, none of those linux servers / desktops have ever lost any data or 'blue screened'. Newest versions of Mozilla seem to be THE exception, and the users can handle these problems ~90% of the time.