Posted by
CowboyNeal
on from the eye-to-the-future dept.
newdaemon writes "Fortune
has a candid
interview
with Bill Joy about what he plans to do after leaving Sun and his opinions on many other topics, including his strong dislike of the C programming language and how the internet could evolve to take care of the problem of spam and viruses."
Writing everything in Java [a programming language created by Sun] will help, because stuff written in antique programming languages like C [a widely used language created by Bell Labs in the early 1970s] is full of holes. Those languages weren't designed for writing distributed programs to be used over a network. Yet that's what Microsoft still uses. But even Java doesn't prevent people from making stupid mistakes.
Oh Joy ! Intel release object CPU.
by
moodz
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· Score: -1, Troll
Engage brain before selecting mouth... either that or Joy has an inside run on the release date of Intel's object processor. Yes thats right.. last time I checked the current CPUs on the market they were all still using procedural instructions ( with lots of goto's.. AKA jump instructions ). C is just a step up on using assembler. Object languages are just plain lazy and or obfuscated. Real programmers use whatever it takes to achieve outcome. Object programmers just dont understand pointers AKA program counters. When you check into hospital for the heart bypass operation you will REALLY want that life support system to be written in object code...not! Gimme the C code iron lung.
Java underappreciated?
by
defile
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· Score: 0, Troll
We did provide people with tools like Java to build more safe and reliable services on the network. But Java has been underappreciated because, once again, it was a solution to a problem people had heard about but had not felt viscerally
What's he talking about "underappreciated"? Sun refused to let a standards group take it over. Sun refused (and may still refuse, I haven't checked) to even open source it.
And it's not until I'm sitting in front of a 2,4GHz workstation that Java applets load and run reasonably.
Way to go about changing the world. What he really means is that they weren't able to take Microsoft's place as monopolist.
For everyone who whines and blames Microsoft for their failures, you can point to a company that was competing with a shittier product or a greedier mentality.
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> his strong dislike of the C programming language
And those faggots use GNOME because it's C.
Writing everything in Java [a programming language created by Sun] will help, because stuff written in antique programming languages like C [a widely used language created by Bell Labs in the early 1970s] is full of holes. Those languages weren't designed for writing distributed programs to be used over a network. Yet that's what Microsoft still uses. But even Java doesn't prevent people from making stupid mistakes.
Yeah, whatever...>eyeroll
There is an interesting follow-up thread in the Nero Tech Center's message boards.
Check it out.
Yesterday I had my tech guy come to the house and disconnect my Sun network, and tomorrow I'm having them shut down my company e-mail account.
you would think that a man of his position and career would know how to do such simple things. maybe it's a good thing he's leaving sun after all.
> "I allege that SCO is full of it" -Linus
The only problem Java solves is the "problem" of too many spare CPU cycles.
...is an antique.
Engage brain before selecting mouth ... either that or Joy has an inside run on the release date of Intel's object processor. Yes thats right .. last time I checked the current CPUs on the market they were all still using procedural instructions ( with lots of goto's .. AKA jump instructions ). C is just a step up on using assembler. Object languages are just plain lazy and or obfuscated. Real programmers use whatever it takes to achieve outcome. Object programmers just dont understand pointers AKA program counters. When you check into hospital for the heart bypass operation you will REALLY want that life support system to be written in object code ...not! Gimme the C code iron lung.
We did provide people with tools like Java to build more safe and reliable services on the network. But Java has been underappreciated because, once again, it was a solution to a problem people had heard about but had not felt viscerally
What's he talking about "underappreciated"? Sun refused to let a standards group take it over. Sun refused (and may still refuse, I haven't checked) to even open source it.
And it's not until I'm sitting in front of a 2,4GHz workstation that Java applets load and run reasonably.
Way to go about changing the world. What he really means is that they weren't able to take Microsoft's place as monopolist.
For everyone who whines and blames Microsoft for their failures, you can point to a company that was competing with a shittier product or a greedier mentality.