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EFF Reviews 5 Years Under The DMCA

briaydemir writes "The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has a new report, Unintended Consequences: Five Years under the DMCA, detailing how the DMCA has stiffled competition, innovation, scientific research, and fair use. The original news release is here, and the report is also available as a PDF. Check it out if you want a good summary of all the DMCA cases over the past five years."

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  1. Time to go. by typobox43 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This article really shows why it is time for the DMCA to go. Anyone who happens to create any sort of device that someone figures out a way to use it to circumvent anything can be sued under the DMCA. (See also the Sklyarov incident.) Remember when someone discovered that you could use a Sharpie to circumvent the copy protection on a CD? Manufacturers/programmers/whatever should never be responsible for what anyone does outside the intended uses.

    1. Re:Time to go. by Omega037 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      **Manufacturers/programmers/whatever should never be responsible for what anyone does outside the intended uses.**

      This is also the reason that gun manufacturers can't be held responsible for crimes commited with guns. If the intended use is hunting or self protection, then they cannot be held responsible for any other use. However, if there is reasonable evidence to suggest that the guns have a forseealbe intended use to commit crimes, the manufacturer can be held responsible. This is why the more powerful assault rifles and machine guns are illegal to be sold to civilians.

      The same law should apply to digital technology. A hacking tool like a port scanner should be legal as it can have an intended use to check your own network for security holes. However, a trojan horse program is obviously intended for illegal remote access to a computer, and should be illegal.

    2. Re:Time to go. by pslam · · Score: 4, Insightful
      This is also the reason that gun manufacturers can't be held responsible for crimes commited with guns. If the intended use is hunting or self protection, then they cannot be held responsible for any other use. However, if there is reasonable evidence to suggest that the guns have a forseealbe intended use to commit crimes, the manufacturer can be held responsible.

      I can foresee killing somebody by cramming 20 twinkies down their throat. Should we hold the manufacturer reponsible?

      Really, I was almost tempted to not bother sending this because it's so obvious. Quite frankly there are too many people using that weak argument to make lots of money out of frivolous lawsuits. That's basically the reasoning being used to sue games developers, i.e GTA3.

    3. Re:Time to go. by Lord+Kano · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is why the more powerful assault rifles and machine guns are illegal to be sold to civilians.

      A civillian can purchase a fully automatic firearm provided he undergoes an FBI background check, gets fingerprinted, and pays the $250 per year license fee. It is perfectly legal (in the US) for any law abiding civillian to own a machine gun. It's been this way since 1934.

      Even more to the point, the VAST majority of the firearms used to commit crimes are 6 shot revolvers. They were churned out like hoola hoops for about 60 years and are still plentiful and cheap on the black market. Banning firearms is no more about controlling crime than the DMCA is about stopping malicious copyright infringement.

      A hacking tool like a port scanner should be legal as it can have an intended use to check your own network for security holes. However, a trojan horse program is obviously intended for illegal remote access to a computer, and should be illegal.

      No program in and of itself should be illegal. It shuold only be illegal if one uses them in a manner that is, well illegal. You should be able to create any virus, trojan or system hijacker you wish, as soon as you use them on someone else's system is when you cross the line.

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    4. Re:Time to go. by djcapelis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What's the difference between BO2k and winVNC, both control your computer, winVNC provides you _FULL_ access to the desktop! Oh My! BO2K is in a way much more limited! Yet, if you were deciding which ones to toss out, even though both of them are billed as remote administration tools, you'd toss out BO2K and keep winVNC without a second thought most likely.

      Or you'd toss out winVNC with it... and consequently put a halt to any kind of decent remote administration of windows, non-M$. Unless you tossed the M$ stuff out too... then... see? Slippery slope.

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  2. Laws not thought out... by MisanthropicProggram · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As was explained to me by a Lawyer who worked for Congress at one time, most laws are the result of knee-jerk reactions to public/corporate demand. Unfortunately, not much thought goes into the consequences of these laws. They just want to keep their jobs.

    Another problem is that Congress makes some of these laws so vague as to leave too much interpretation up to the judges who try cases under these laws. Unfortunately, organizations such as the EFF don't have the clout or the resources that the corps do.

    I have to stop now before I go on a rant ;-)

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    1. Re:Laws not thought out... by Meden+Agan · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Unfortunately, organizations such as the EFF don't have the clout or the resources that the corps do.
      And that's why they need all the support they can get! If you have any interest in this issue, please seriously consider donating to the EFF. Just think how much it would help if a fraction of slashdot readers donated $10 or $20. Of course when I donate to organizations like this I often wonder if the money gets squandered, but what's $10 in the grand scheme of things?
    2. Re:Laws not thought out... by El+Cubano · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As was explained to me by a Lawyer who worked for Congress at one time, most laws are the result of knee-jerk reactions to public/corporate demand. Unfortunately, not much thought goes into the consequences of these laws. They just want to keep their jobs.

      I think that the Patriot Act is a great example of why knee-jerk reactions are bad. When the law was being pushed through congress in the aftermath of 9/11, people who were conerned, even bothered, by many of the provisions in the law were afraid to speak up. Not to say that these people opposed trying to do something about terrorism, but that they felt it needed to be a well thought out reaction. Instead, everyone kept quiet for fear of being labeled a "pinko-commie-terrorist-supporting-unamerican," becuase when the law did pass all those people would be carted off as supporters of international terrorism.

      Don't get me wrong. I think something needs to be done about terrorism and the governments that support it. But, the consequences of our actions must be thought out. Particularly because our children and grandchildren will bear the burden imposed by us.

  3. What I'd like to know... by bad_fx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What I'd really like to know is just how "unintended" some of these consequences were... *shrug*

  4. Excessive punishments by damacer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the things that bothers me most about laws like the DMCA and the NET (no electronic theft) act is the excessive punishments they put in place for various violations.

    For example, the DMCA makes it a felony to circumvent a copy protection device. And, similarly, the NET act makes it a felony to share copyrighted materials via a service like Kazaa with a possible 5 year prison term.

    Regardless of whether the things out lawed by legislation like this really should be out lawed or not, the punishments really need to be adjusted to fit the crime. Neither getting your dvd player to play dvd's from europe, nor sharing the latest Eminem song should even carry the possiblity of landing you several months little less several years in the slammer. Okay, the Eminem case is iffy, but otherwise...

  5. Steinway left Germany and came to America by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    . . . because they were in a dispute with the painter's guild. Steinway painted their pianos. The painter's guild claimed this as a violation of their guild rights.

    Steinway said, "Fuck this shit" (Well, the German equivilent actually), and came to America. In the process making America the center of a cultural technology that had previously been a European monopoly.

    America is making such inovative freedom illegal. It will reap the consecquences, just as did Europe.

    The DMCA was written entirely to protect existing vested interests. When you do so you automatically restrict (even if that wasn't your intent) development of other interests that spur economic growth.

    The end result is stagnation with all power and wealth gradually making its way into a few hands.

    Welcome to the economic algae pond, Brother.

    KFG

    1. Re:Steinway left Germany and came to America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You are a fucking moron

  6. You'd think better of the EFF by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What's with the use of the word "pirate" all throughout this document?

    Congress meant to stop copyright pirates from defeating anti-piracy protections added to copyrighted works

    Rather than focusing on pirates, many copyright owners have wielded the DMCA to hinder their legitimate competitors.

    This document collects a number of reported cases where the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA have been invoked not against pirates, but against consumers, scientists, and legitimate comp-etitors.

    The details of section 1201, then, were a response not just to U.S. treaty obligations, but also to the concerns of copyright owners that their works would be widely pirated in the networked digital world.

    According to Blizzard, the bnetd software has been used by some to permit networked play of pirated Blizzard games.


    The DMCA has nothing to do with maritime law. It was not enacted to protect cargo ships or the spanish armarda. "Pirate" is a propaganda term used by copyright owners to imply that unauthorized copying is the equivilent of murder and theft on the high seas. The message is clear: only a vicious enemy of the people would do unauthorized copying. To a lesser degree the term "protection" is also a propaganda term to describe what copyright owners do in restricting our freedom. These terms are an important weapon of people who support the DMCA and other stifling laws as they encourage informers to rat people out to the non-official police forces the copyright owners fund.

    All in all, you'd think the EFF would be too smart to play their game.

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    1. Re:You'd think better of the EFF by brianosaurus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the use of those words is quite appropriate. They list a series of cases involving PhD students, security researchers, and startups. By applying the DMCA to stifle such people, the plaintiffs are equating the defendants with pirates. As you implied in your post, that is completely absurd.

      Using the industrys' own terms they show that the laws are being exploited to prosecute people who clearly are not "pirates". They're using DMCA supporters' own propaganda against them to demonstrate how ludicrous the DMCA is.

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    2. Re:You'd think better of the EFF by Moridineas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You may not fully understand the meaning of the word piracy. Piracy has been used for at least 300 years to describe reproduction of another's work without permission. Since there IS another meaning of the word piracy that you are familiar with, your ignorance is somewhat excusable, but next time before you go spouting off about definitions that you aren't aware of, try using a dictionary.

  7. The points EFF is trying to make... by Praedon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The points they are trying to make are these: 1) DMCA is like Duct Tape... It works on anything, even for things its not intended to. 2) Congress became lazy when they had the DMCA drawn up, and left WAY TOO MANY Loose ends on it. 3) Something has to be done to revise/remove it until a decent Act is actually drawn up...

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  8. Time to revise the DMCA by Dukeofshadows · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The DMCA was created in the spirit that new forms of electronic media were not safe from potential copyright violations, and the act did what it set out to do. Yet it also did a great deal more as special interests and corporate schmoozers managed to get their paws on the bill and turn it into more of a "dominant market player protection act" than anything else. We all agree that the amount of innovation stifled using the DMCA as justification is staggering. Yet electronic media should also be protected from the loopholes the bill originally solved. Here are a few potential solutions:

    1) Remove the current DMCA and amend it such that only specific uses of media are prohibited. Allow for the use of back-engineering tools with HARSH punishments for people who knowingly use them to break copyrighted material with intent to distribute. This leaves the burden of proof with a prosecutors instead of the "guilty-til-proven- innocent" tactics of the RIAA et. al.

    2) Make a specific statement for "loser pays": anyone suing under using this legislation who loses the case pays for the legal costs of both parties. Settlements don't count, and this will outright favor the bigger players, but in the American climate of "legal attrition" as a business strategy I see no other effective means of trying to relieve this aspect of the DMCA problem.

    3) Allow publications on computer security to be done freely and thoroughly if tied to legitimate academic or corporate entities. Hold computer manufacturers liable if one of their components has a security flaw that causes eggregious commercial/monetary damage but which could have been fixed by repair of one of these published flaws.

    4) Ensure that American laws apply only to American citizens with the express wording that products purchased in other parts of the world which belong to the consumer are theirs to do with as they please. A clause allowing rightful action to take whatever steps necessary to use that product would be nice (mod chips et. al)

    Pointing fingers makes us feel good, but unless we propose alternatives and compromises, are we really doing anything but venting? Does anyone else have potential solutions/thoughts on how to resolve this issue?

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    1. Re:Time to revise the DMCA by lemonjelo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Good points on 1 and 2, but in (3) I'd suggest not adding the 'if tied to legitimate academic or corporate entities' - you'd still be limitting free speech in some cases unless everyone is allowed to discuss what they've found wrong with a product.

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    2. Re:Time to revise the DMCA by ChaosDiscord · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Yet electronic media should also be protected from the loopholes the bill originally solved.

      What loopholes?

      It is illegal to distribute copies of works protected by copyright without the copyright holder's permission.

      Nice and simple. It doesn't matter if you're distributing photocopies on the street corner and sharing them over a peer-to-peer client. It's still illegal. No loopholes.

      Allow for the use of back-engineering tools with HARSH punishments for people who knowingly use them to break copyrighted material with intent to distribute.

      But it's already illegal to distribute works protected by copyright. What will adding a another rule do to help? This is just hyper-criminalization, an amazingly bad idea.

      Perhaps we need a law with additional penalties for disabling a home security system. Sure, it's already illegal to break into my home, but I don't feel safe enough. Surely a criminal who has decided to break and enter will be thwarted when he discovers that disabling my alarm system is illegal.

      Allow publications on computer security to be done freely and thoroughly if tied to legitimate academic or corporate entities.

      Lots of important security work is being done by loosely associated individuals. What's magic about working for an academic or corporate entity that makes the research more valid?

      Pointing fingers makes us feel good, but unless we propose alternatives and compromises, are we really doing anything but venting? Does anyone else have potential solutions/thoughts on how to resolve this issue?

      Yes, there are potential solutions. Repeal the law, it does way more harm than good. The benefits are miniscule and unworthy of protection. We already protect the rights of copyright holders.

  9. civil disobedience by fermion · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Laws really must allow the purchasers of equipment to do with them as they wish. The manufacturer is already protected through limited liability warrantees and traditional copyright laws. If I modify my computer, the manufacturer does not have to honor any applicable warranty. If I make a copy of book or music and sit out on a street corner and sell, or even give away copies, it is likely that traditional copyrights laws will allow for recompense.

    The DCMA, with it's idea that I can purchase a piece of equipment and then not do it as I wish, or that I cannot make copies of books or music for personal use, is just immoral. It is immoral because it allows contracts in which the end user has to agree to terms that are unknown until the end user either cannot return the product of inadvertently breaks the contract. It is immoral because it prevents the necessary innovation that encourages the free market. It is immoral because it circumvents due process.

    And we cannot allow immoral acts to continue. The best defense is peaceful civil disobedience. For instance, don't buy music from RIAA labels. If they have no income, they have no money to fight legal battles. The same goes for the MPAA, game vendors, and anyone else that uses the DMCA. It won't be possible to totally shut them out, but we can at least make an effort.

    I believe a lot of what goes on P2P networks is copyright infringement, but what choice do we have. The music and movies are sold in packages that violates our traditional fair use rights under the law. If i can't make a copy of the CD for my car, and the manufacturer won't give me another CD when the original get stolen or damaged, then why should I buy the CD. The manufacturer obviously has no respect for me as a customer, so I might as well return the disrespect the manufacturer and copy the music off the net.

    The same goes for movies. If movies are increasingly downloaded from the net, it won't be because people don't want to buy movies. It will be because the movies we can buy are illegally packaged to prevent out fair use rights. Why should I buy a movie that is crippled when I can download a copy that honors my fair use rights. The manufacturer may hid behind a license, but it makes no difference. A contract that removes legal rights, especially when the rights are not itemized, should not be honored.

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  10. Re:When I want to donate... by JamieF · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Jesus H tap-dancing Christ. Please tell me you were trying to earn a (Score: 5, Funny).

    Are you not aware of what a self-fulfilling prophecy that is? You won't donate to an organization that explicitly fights to protect your privacy, because you're afraid that they won't protect your privacy?

    Are you also afraid to vote for anybody other than Bush because Ashcroft might find out and come gitcha?

    You might as well be afraid to go to a restaurant during your lunch hour because you might not have enough time left over to eat at your desk.

  11. DMCA by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The best legislation money can buy.

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