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Eddie Izzard As ... Doctor Who?

cmdr_forge writes "The BBC is reporting that Former Doctor Who Tom Baker says that Eddie Izzard is to be the next doctor for the TV show that starts 2005. How awesome is that!"

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  1. meh by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who cares? He'll be replaced with no explanation anyway.

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  2. Actually by gdav · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bill Nighy is the front runner. Tom Baker was just voicing his opinion. See the Times.

    1. Re:Actually by jweatherley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, Tom Baker is great but he is as mad as a crate full of squirrels. Ananova reports that he reckons Melinda Messenger would make a good assisstant because:

      'Melinda would be good as she can scream and has bosoms. It doesn't really matter if she can act.'

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    2. Re:Actually by TomV · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Tom's been on a bit of a media blitz recently. Note that Tom, back when he was the incumbent, suggested that the Doctor should have a talking cabbage as a companion.

      At this ridiculously early stage in proceedings, I'm rather in favour of Bill Nighy for the part, and there seem to have been a few leaks suggesting this is Russell Davies' feeling too. He seems t ohave let it slip in conversation with Doctor Who Magazine editor Clayton Hickman, and has mentined it elsewhere as well.

      But let it not be forgotten that Eddie Izzard has been branching out into very serious drama recently and has turned out to be a very capable and powerful actor, so if he gets the part, no worries.

      But seriously, Tom's not into facts, Tom's into stimulating interesting conversation. and here we are, interested, and conversing :-)

      tV

  3. Nope. by sakusha · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not going to happen. Tom Baker is pulling your leg. And you fell for it.

  4. but wait, there's more by mentaiko · · Score: 5, Informative
    Ok, let's get this straight. The BBC news division is reporting that Tom Baker made this claim, which has been denied, in turn, by somebody back at the BBC entertainment division.

    So I think this can still be filed under "rumors", same as 4 days ago when this appeared on the bbc.co.uk website. Way to stay on top of late-breaking news, /.

  5. Dr Who - The Next Generation by quinkin · · Score: 5, Insightful
    OK so it's not a cross post from a trek fan... :)

    They have just started playing the original Dr Who in Australia again and I am getting a massive kick out of watching my son react the exact same way I did 25 years ago.

    If you have never watched Dr Who from behind your dad's back (cowering in fear everytime the cellophane alien or plastic dinosaur lurches into view) the you just haven't watched it right. :)

    Q.

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    1. Re:Dr Who - The Next Generation by PCM2 · · Score: 4, Informative
      the big fat guys with no neck that you had to stab in the back to kill them
      Sontarans.

      God, I'm such a nerd.

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  6. Re:I wonder.... by Rangerk8 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe not, but I can't wait until he offers a Dalek "Cake or Death?"

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  7. Dr Who? by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dr Heimlich!

  8. Bah, lies... by Peterus7 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Tom Baker is just saying that because he's bitter that they told him the only part he'd be getting was that of Davros...

    1. Re:Bah, lies... by Wolfrider · · Score: 4, Interesting

      --What *I* think would be interesting, is if they brought Tom Baker back... ...as THE MASTER!!

      --People's JAWS would drop. Imagine the controversy, oh the hurly-burly!!

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  9. If you don't know the difference... by IBitOBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...you arn't entitled to an opinion.

    Cross-dressing and "homosexual agenda"? Be serious. There is no deterministic relationship between the two outside bad steriotypes.

    Izzard is straight and tranvestite. I'm homosexual, dislike "drag shows" and pusshy-queen walking steriotypes, and would go naked before putting on a dress. Getting transvesties onto TV is about as far from my agenda as you can get. I don't want them not-there, but seeing a man in drag is like watching straight people kiss; it does nothing for me at all and generally looks a little creepy. 8-)

    Lumping people into broad categories just because you haven't bothered to do any fact-finding, and then claiming they lumped themselves and are now subscribed to a particular "agenda", is tiresome and childish.

    On a less-side note, I dislike anybody sexualizing characters that don't need it. It makes for bad literary construction as no mater how you slant sexuality you, by definition, slant it into a niche. Izzard could be a hoot as the doctor if he is capible of playing the character. I've seen him in suit and tie so I think he could pull off a nice excentric personality without injecting sex where it doesn't need to go.

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    I once had an over-straight homophobe ask: "What do you mean 'phobia'? Why would I be afraid of some faggot?"

    My response: Clearly you are affraid that there are men out in the world who might think about you, and treat you, as badly as you think about and treat women.

    I have never met a homophobe, or indeed any man who used the phrase "homosexual agenda" (etc), that didn't also misstreat, marginalize, or rampently objectify every woman foolish enough to approach him.

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    1. Re:If you don't know the difference... by hellfire · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I can't believe this was modded up. This argument is the same argument that a woman was raped because she dressed provokatively, that a hacker is inherently evil because the media has played up the word hacker, and that its okay if the public at large attaches a label to others with little information!!!!!

      See the movie "To Wong Fu, thanks for the Memories, Julie Newmar." There's a nice explanation between all the different "categories," if you permit me to categorize, of this type of psychology.

      There are men who are heterosexual who like to dress in women's clothing (transvestite). There are men who want to act or feel feminine, and some of them even get operations to be as close to female as possible (transsexual or transgendered). There are men who, in the words of Wesley Snipes character "Gay men who have way too much fashion sense" who are "drag queens" and dress up and act as women but do not do it for sexual pleasure.

      There are many different levels to homosexuality and lesbianism. As with just about every other goddamn thing on the planet, its complicated and layered and just because one is ignorant does not give anyone the right to make gross generalizations and say its okay to make them because that's the only thing they "see."

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  10. Tom Baker Making Prank Phone Calls by devphil · · Score: 3, Informative


    Okay, so it's not him, just someone who sounds a heckuva lot like him, pretending to be the Doctor. Doing it for a radio show.

    One day, called Tom Baker himself, who took it in stride as only a British Time Lord can.

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  11. Re:eddie izzard? by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tom was just a little off. Bill Nighy is going to be the doctor and Eddie will put on a dress and play his assistant.

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  12. For my less enlightened countrymen... by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 5, Funny

    Eddie Izzard is this hip comedian from England. If you had an ounce of good taste you would know this.

  13. Re:Excellent! by Dj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ah, well, us folks in the UK actually know what Izzard has done in the acting department; he was fantastic in 40 and his Imdb entry seems to miss the play screened on BBC4 with Eddie as the father of a special needs child which was just heart breaking.

    And the transvestite stuff? Well, Eddie Izzard dropped that from the act years ago. And anyone who can do five minutes on jam and make it hilarious is fine by me. Oh yes, and if you've ever seen him go bilingual in a set, well, then you're lucky to have seen a master of international comedy (who takes the international bit seriously).

    If all you can see is a frock on stage, that says more about you than it does of Eddie Izzard.

    And, for the record, I think he'll be a superb Doctor.

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  14. Re:Doctor... who?! by MosesJones · · Score: 5, Informative


    Eddie Izzard is a commando Transvestite commedian Extremely funny, bizarre use of imagery, his act in French is funnier than his English act as his vocab is limited so it just sounds even more brilliant.

    Has done gigs in the US, been in a few films and is generally a bit of an all rounder. As a comic he'd be a sort of cross between Bill Hicks and Robin Williams, some politics, loads of insanity.

    Describes himself as a "militant liberal"... this means you storm the parliment building and start with the words

    "Its okay, we'll pay for all the damages"

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  15. We're way off topic but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Isn't "homophobia" a hatred of gays based on a fear of one's own homosexual urges? I don't think it's a fear of gay people.

    Going even farther off topic, I'd just like to make a comment on your last paragraph. When men are around other men, they play down their attachments and feelings for women. This is psychological fact. Actual poor treatment of women is absolutely wrong, but when women aren't present, men will often talk about them in a more callous manner. I played rugby for a year in college, and some of these guys would say the most sexist, derogatory stuff. Some of them actually were assholes, who ought not to be allowed within 100 feet of another human being. But there were also a good number who weren't that way. Some of them were just acting out a role, in the same way that guys who talk trash (during sports or videogames or whatever) may actually respect or even like their opponents.

    I bring this up because I often notice the same phenomena with respect to gay bashing. Yeah, "gay" or "faggot" are often used as insults, but in many cases it has no meaning. Just as calling someone a "bitch" is rarely meant to imply that the person in some way resembles a female dog, gay related insults are often much the same way. I recall reading an article in my freshman year about a gay guy on the soccer (I think it was soccer) team. The article talked about how there was a lot of worry that it would be a bad situation, because the guys on the team tended to use terms for homosexuals as insults. The players were frankly surprised it was even an issue. Basically what they said was "yeah, sure guys would say those things, but no one actually MEANT it." The gay teammember said basically "I do get treated a little differently, but not in a bad way. Most of these guys have never met anyone who was openly gay, so they're a little worried about saying something that will offend me. For the most part though, they're a great group of guys."

    Now, I went to a relatively enlightened school and I'm not trying to say that there is no such thing as sexism or homophobia. That is clearly untrue. Indeed, even saying derogatory things about groups of people does reveal prejudices. However, I'm also suggesting that perhaps people aren't always as bad as they seem. Sometimes, the way people act in one context is not a good indicator of their personal morals or deeply held beliefs.

  16. Re:Excellent! by iainl · · Score: 3, Funny

    "And don't try to pretend that anyone under 40 recognizes Carlin as anything but the Seven Words You Can't Say On TV Guy"

    Nonsense. As the original post title suggests, we all know him as Rufus from Bill & Ted before we know about Seven Words...

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  17. Re:The Doctor is trying The Master's tricks? by DuncMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Time Lords have 12 regenerations for a total of 13 lives (including the first life). Most Time Lords' lives can last thousands of years before needing a regeneration, but The Doctor leads dangerous lives... I'm also wondering whether these lives are consecutive, or a regeneration could be a shift sideways through 13 concurrent, individual, lives. It would allow for the numerous 'solo' adventures and eliminate certain continuity issues.

  18. Re:Who is is that Eddie Izzard ? by martinX · · Score: 4, Funny

    Greetings, non-internet person. Allow me to introduce you to Google.

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  19. This is JUST SPECULATION by shadowlight1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tom Baker was a great Dr. Who, but lately it seems he is a loon with moments of lucidity. Have any of you read his interview at the BBC?? It's hard for him to remember SEASONS of Dr Who at this point. Or, he was just pretending. Either way, he was a loon in the interview.

    It's much too early methinks (2 years out) for an actor to be chosen for Dr. Who.

    When Big Finnish, who does the Dr Who audio adventures, solicits scripts, they say "write it for any Doctor" and then it is customized to a new Doctor's persona after the actor is chosen. What this means, is any time between now and late 2004 a Doctor could be chosen, even with the script fleshed out. Naturally, to generate the most hype, people will be speculating on the actor (or actress!) to play the Doctor. Paul McGann, the 8th doctor who was in the Fox TV movie, has been quoted as saying he wants a FEMALE doctor this time around, or an African American one -- this doesn't mean it's going to happen -- it's just actors voicing their opinions.

    For the latest Dr Who news the best place to go, IMHO, is www.gallifreyone.com. It's a well-maintained fansite that seems to be tearing through the flurry of speculation and sticking to official BBC press releases.

    I can't wait for the Doctor to be back on TV.

  20. Re:The Doctor is trying The Master's tricks? by TomV · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Which would be all very well if it weren't for the 'how far back can you go, how many lives have you lived' scene in Brain Of Morbius, which suggests that the Tom Baker version was already number 12 (assuming, reasonably enough, that you can ignore Peter Cushing and Trevor Martin) by showing 8 pre-Hartnell Doctors (actually the faces of various members of the production team, for which they then had to compensate Equity). Except that the 'only 13 lives' bit was introduced rather later.

    Doctor Who continuity was never much more sturdy than the sets - or, to put it more positively, Doctor Who never let silly continuity niggles get in the way of telling a good story.

    Anyhow, if it came to the crunch, it's not as if the BBC would stop the show becasue they'd run out of permissible regenerations, is it?

    tV