I see a lawsuit coming. Why can't people come up with original names (I'm one to talk!)?
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I hope they get sued. It is an original idea for naming a chemical. Can you name another chemical named after a video game character? It's also the stupidest idea I've ever heard for naming a chemical. I couldn't even read the article without thinking "morons" every time I read that name. Do they really think people will take them seriously if they try to hype it by giving it such a dumb name. I hope it's as good as they claim (doubtful), since I know people with PD.
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You missed it dumbfuck.
So now I'm wondering...
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Did this story make the cut because of the science, or because of the video game reference?
And what does SEGA have to say about the dilution of trademark/copyright infringement/etc?
Uhhh, that was supposed to be teh funny, I suppose next you'll be telling me that they can index pages that were put up on the Intarweb over 5 years ago. Supposing that, I suppose that I'll respond "balderdash!"
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Re:And in other news...
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I swear that this supports my view that two thirds of Nature and Science are wasted. Sonic Hedgehog has been in these frequently since the early 90s but no one but the microbiologists can read these articles.
Those articles should be rewriten so that terms are defined, or they should apear in specialist journals with summaries of their import in Nature and Science. Now, those journals say they only want original research, but it really should be readable original research. If slashdot is only hearing about sonic hedgehog now (in the MB context) this shows that Nature and Science don't really have their trumpeted impact.
Of course they should. And Linux Journal should explain in every issue what LDAP means, and Dr. Dobbs should explain what's the difference between the more legible text that comes after//, and the less legible one that reads like
for (i=j=0;s[i] != '\0'; ++i)
Point being: specialization is exclusive. Sorry. Re-explaining basic ideas in every scientific or technical paper is impossible. Nature & Science have actually done an excellent job on their sites and on paper in bringing the highlights in clear language. If you want to write a scientific report which is concise on the one hand, but contains enough results to be reproducible and critically read on the other, you need to use highly specific terms. These are not layman's journals, and their impact is calculated based on the number of times their articles have been cited by other specialists in other non-layman's journals.
On a final note: "Microbiologists" are scientists dealing with microorganisms. last time I checked, Nature/Science also had Physics, chemistry, astronomy, geology, and in the life sciences: neuroscience, endocrinology, cancer research, etc. etc. These articles are not read by everyone in the scientific community, nor by everyone in a single field.
The reason why the chemical is called Sonic Hedgehog has only a passing relation to the video game. One of the researchers was an avid video game fan and the chemical's precursors are actually: SoNiC. Hence the play on word, Sonic Hedgehog.
Plus, it has to do with increasing the speed between synapse firings.
All this time I thought it was this little blue guy who was spinning really fast and trying to collect rings. I suppose they have to name the protein that causes the disease Mario or Luigi, Sonic's arch nemesis. *shakes fist*
Despite what the story says, Sonic Hedgehog is an old gene. The origin of the name is that there was a gene first discovered in fruit flies which was named Hedgehog, presumably because flies missing the hedgehog gene reminded the researcher of a hedgehog. Since then, related genes have been found and given hedgehog-related names, like Desert Hedgehog and Sonic Hedgehog.
Fly geneticists like to go for amusing names. For example, there is a gene responsible for development of the 7th cell of the fly ommatidium (the ommatidia are the individual facets of the comound eye). That gene was named "sevenless". Since then, related genes have been named "bride of sevenless" and "son of sevenless", to name just two.
A gene in fruit flies was named hedgehog. Genes in fruit flies are named after how they look as mutants (so the gene white was named for flies with white eyes). The hedgehog mutation causes fruit fly embryos to be hairy, so they look like little hedgehogs.
Mammals have duplicate copies of most genes in animals like flies. So the multiple hedgehog genes have to have elaborations like "Indian hedgehog" and "Sonic hedgehog" to differentiate them. Since most genes involved in development were discovered in flies, get used to names like "faint little ball, tinman, shaggy, dunce" and other fun fly names.
I attended a talk on the Sonic hedgehog pathway last week, and the "SoNiC" explanation offered in the parent post has nothing to do with it. Fruit flies with a mutation in one gene have a hunched-over shape that makes them look like hedgehogs, so the gene was named "hedgehog". Research in mice and humans has revealed that there is actually a whole family of genes of this kind, and one of them was given the name "Sonic hedgehog" as a reference to the video game character.
By the way -- Sonic hedgehog (or "Shh") is a protein, having nothing to do with the element nickel (Ni) or the non-existent chemical element "So". Carbon (C) is the basis of all proteins, nucleic acids, carbohydrates, lipids, and basically everything having to do with living things and polymers, but Shh has no special relation to it.
The Pope has this disease.
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Good news for the pope
Re:The Pope has this disease.
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The pope also has colon cancer... so I think parkinsens is the least of his worries.
"The scientists found that the subthalamic nucleus is hyperactive because there are insufficient amounts of Sonic Hedgehog to adequately control its activity. "
It's hard to read this article without chuckling at the repeated insertion of the silly name into the medical jargon, but hey people, (researchers, journalists) if you're going to use such a ridiculous name, and use it repeatedly throughout the story....
with putting a little bit of fun in science? I'm sure kids in high school biology would much rather learn about Sonic the Hedgehog and how he helps fight Parkinson's, rather than (insert boring sceintifc name here)!
Though, when theres a Dr. Robotnic filling out perscriptions, then you can bust out the lawsuits.
Yeah. When I teach kids at my school I gave the numbers 1,2,3,... interesting names. So now they all say things like Mario+Kzooie=Rayman. Needless to say everyone in the class completely loves the subject and in a few years time they'll all be getting PhDs. Or maybe not.
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agreed, i think part of the problem with school is that the teachers get so damn bored with teaching the same thing over and over again that they have no more enthusiasm for teaching, and they don't make the kids want to learn. none of my teachers have ever bothered to make things the slightest bit interesting. good thing i found my way into the real world! heh.
...that they didn't name it after the other Hedgehog, Ron Jeremy.
*ewwwww*
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A Princeton University student has published instructions for disabling the new anticopying measures being tested on CDs by BMG--and they're as simple as holding down a computer's Shift key.
In a paper published on his Web site this week, Princeton Ph.D. student John Halderman explained how he disabled a new kind of copy-protection technology, distributed as part of a new album by BMG soul artist Anthony Hamilton.
Under normal circumstances, the antipiracy software is automatically loaded onto a Windows machine whenever the Hamilton album is run in a computer's CD drive, making traditional copying or MP3 ripping impossible. However, simply holding down the Shift key prevents Windows' AutoRun feature from loading the copy-protection software, leaving the music free to copy, Halderman said.
The technique was confirmed by BMG and SunnComm Technologies, the small company that produces the anticopying technology. Both companies said they had known about it before releasing the CD, and that they still believed the protection would deter most average listeners' copying.
"This is something we were aware of," BMG spokesman Nathaniel Brown said. "Copy management is intended as a speed bump, intended to thwart the casual listener from mass burning and uploading. We made a conscious decision to err on the side of playability and flexibility."
The ease with which Halderman and others have disabled BMG and SunnComm's latest copy-protection techniques illustrates the delicate balance that record labels and technology companies are trying to strike in protecting content without angering listeners.
SunnComm's technology is the most flexible version of CD copy-protection to hit the market yet. It includes "pre-ripped" versions of the songs on the CD itself, each of which can be transferred to a computer, burned to CD several times, or transferred to many kinds of portable devices. These differ from unrestricted MP3 files in that only limited copies can be made, and not every portable music device can play them.
The Anthony Hamilton CD is the first release in this new generation of copy-protected CDs that come preloaded with these "second session" tracks designed for use on a computer, a strategy also being pursued by SunnComm rival Macrovision. Record labels have pushed for these tracks, mostly provided in Microsoft's Windows Media format, to be included on copy-protected CDs in order to ameliorate consumers' concerns about not being able to use their music on computers.
SunnComm CEO Peter Jacobs said the technology--which will be improved in future versions--should still be attractive to record companies. Though simple, the act of holding down the Shift key in order to enable copying does let computer users know they're doing something unauthorized, he said. That alone will dissuade many people from making copies, he added.
"This is not an all-or-nothing thing," Jacobs said. "People can break into your house, because there's lots of information out there on how to pick locks. But that knowledge doesn't mean you don't buy a lock."
In order to fully prevent the antipiracy software from loading, a listener has to hold the Shift key down for a long period of time, at exactly the right time, every time they listen to the CD on a computer. Moreover, anyone who doesn't load the software won't get access to the second session tracks, which on future CDs will increasingly include videos and other bonus material, record company insiders say.
For his part, Halderman says the workaround is so simple that it's hard to fix. Nor is he worried about falling afoul of laws that make it illegal to describe how to get around copy-protection measures.
"I hardly think that telling people to push Shift constitutes trafficking in a (copy-protection technology) circumvention device," Halderman said. "I'm not very worried."
Re:In other, MORE IMPORTANT news...
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...which was covered by Slashdot yesterday. Once again, D'oh!
My neurologist is at Toronto Western (the hospital where this research was done)...and I just really, really cannot see this being true....based on their humourless bedside matter. But you never know;-)
Maybe the cure for cancer might be known as "Zelda"?
My friend the pathologist told me about this at least a year ago... The way I remember it, they had too many hedgehog genes and so the scientist called the last one sonic. I do realize this is a protien, not a gene that they're talking about but I'm sure they're related:)
"Sonic hedgehog, a member of a family of putative signaling molecules, is implicated in the regulation of CNS polarity."
Cell. 1993 Dec 31;75(7):1417-30.
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I'm an MD/PhD student, so I am exposed a fair amount to people involved in biology research. I get the impression that most of them have no idea what the name is from, which makes it really awesome.
It's called "Sonic Hedgehog," and it's quite old. There are lots of things with funny names in biology, especially bacteriophage, which there are billions of in the world. Some "philatelist" programs do little more than catalog and name phage.
Hey, there is even a mitochondrial protein named after my slashdot username: tom7.
Covered by Reed Magazine in 1998.
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A write-up on how this name came about, as well as what the Hedgehog family is all about, can be found in this February 1998 article:
The name Sonic Hedgehog originated with a mutant fruit fly embryo that had cuticle all over its body. Researchers found three different versions of the "hedgehog" gene but only two kinds of real hedgehogs, so they named the third gene after the cartoon character.
For all you naysayers that don't think the name had anything to do with the video game...:)
Does anyone know why the protein was named after Sonic? The linked article doesn't really give any indication why that name was picked.
Because it has a nice *ring* to it? I look forward to Michael J Fox receiving his oscar for Back to the Future parts 4, 5 and 6 and thanking Sonic The Hedgehog for allowing him to return to his sterling acting career.
I see a lawsuit coming. Why can't people come up with original names (I'm one to talk!)?
w00t! fapp! w00t! w00t! w00t! fapp!
Did this story make the cut because of the science, or because of the video game reference?
And what does SEGA have to say about the dilution of trademark/copyright infringement/etc?
...Slashdot is over six years behind Google. D'oh, guys, D'OH!
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Does anyone know why the protein was named after Sonic? The linked article doesn't really give any indication why that name was picked.
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"The scientists found that the subthalamic nucleus is hyperactive because there are insufficient amounts of Sonic Hedgehog to adequately control its activity. "
It's hard to read this article without chuckling at the repeated insertion of the silly name into the medical jargon, but hey people, (researchers, journalists) if you're going to use such a ridiculous name, and use it repeatedly throughout the story....
How about letting us in on the joke?
Operator, give me the number for 911!
with putting a little bit of fun in science? I'm sure kids in high school biology would much rather learn about Sonic the Hedgehog and how he helps fight Parkinson's, rather than (insert boring sceintifc name here)!
Though, when theres a Dr. Robotnic filling out perscriptions, then you can bust out the lawsuits.
...that they didn't name it after the other Hedgehog, Ron Jeremy.
*ewwwww*
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Shift key breaks CD copy locks
Last modified: October 7, 2003, 10:58 AM PDT
By John Borland
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A Princeton University student has published instructions for disabling the new anticopying measures being tested on CDs by BMG--and they're as simple as holding down a computer's Shift key.
In a paper published on his Web site this week, Princeton Ph.D. student John Halderman explained how he disabled a new kind of copy-protection technology, distributed as part of a new album by BMG soul artist Anthony Hamilton.
Under normal circumstances, the antipiracy software is automatically loaded onto a Windows machine whenever the Hamilton album is run in a computer's CD drive, making traditional copying or MP3 ripping impossible. However, simply holding down the Shift key prevents Windows' AutoRun feature from loading the copy-protection software, leaving the music free to copy, Halderman said.
The technique was confirmed by BMG and SunnComm Technologies, the small company that produces the anticopying technology. Both companies said they had known about it before releasing the CD, and that they still believed the protection would deter most average listeners' copying.
"This is something we were aware of," BMG spokesman Nathaniel Brown said. "Copy management is intended as a speed bump, intended to thwart the casual listener from mass burning and uploading. We made a conscious decision to err on the side of playability and flexibility."
The ease with which Halderman and others have disabled BMG and SunnComm's latest copy-protection techniques illustrates the delicate balance that record labels and technology companies are trying to strike in protecting content without angering listeners.
SunnComm's technology is the most flexible version of CD copy-protection to hit the market yet. It includes "pre-ripped" versions of the songs on the CD itself, each of which can be transferred to a computer, burned to CD several times, or transferred to many kinds of portable devices. These differ from unrestricted MP3 files in that only limited copies can be made, and not every portable music device can play them.
The Anthony Hamilton CD is the first release in this new generation of copy-protected CDs that come preloaded with these "second session" tracks designed for use on a computer, a strategy also being pursued by SunnComm rival Macrovision. Record labels have pushed for these tracks, mostly provided in Microsoft's Windows Media format, to be included on copy-protected CDs in order to ameliorate consumers' concerns about not being able to use their music on computers.
SunnComm CEO Peter Jacobs said the technology--which will be improved in future versions--should still be attractive to record companies. Though simple, the act of holding down the Shift key in order to enable copying does let computer users know they're doing something unauthorized, he said. That alone will dissuade many people from making copies, he added.
"This is not an all-or-nothing thing," Jacobs said. "People can break into your house, because there's lots of information out there on how to pick locks. But that knowledge doesn't mean you don't buy a lock."
In order to fully prevent the antipiracy software from loading, a listener has to hold the Shift key down for a long period of time, at exactly the right time, every time they listen to the CD on a computer. Moreover, anyone who doesn't load the software won't get access to the second session tracks, which on future CDs will increasingly include videos and other bonus material, record company insiders say.
For his part, Halderman says the workaround is so simple that it's hard to fix. Nor is he worried about falling afoul of laws that make it illegal to describe how to get around copy-protection measures.
"I hardly think that telling people to push Shift constitutes trafficking in a (copy-protection technology) circumvention device," Halderman said. "I'm not very worried."
My neurologist is at Toronto Western (the hospital where this research was done)...and I just really, really cannot see this being true....based on their humourless bedside matter. But you never know ;-)
Maybe the cure for cancer might be known as "Zelda"?
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sure... why not... well people always had 'knuckles' and its often said girls have tails...
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Gene versus protein, huh?
Daarom is geen reden...
My friend the pathologist told me about this at least a year ago... The way I remember it, they had too many hedgehog genes and so the scientist called the last one sonic. I do realize this is a protien, not a gene that they're talking about but I'm sure they're related :)
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Sonic was mentioned on the 8th of March, 2001.
U oC M-SHst-0803101.php
And it's called Sonic Hedgehog, not Sonic THE Hedgehog.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2001-03/
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I'm an MD/PhD student, so I am exposed a fair amount to people involved in biology research. I get the impression that most of them have no idea what the name is from, which makes it really awesome.
It's called "Sonic Hedgehog," and it's quite old. There are lots of things with funny names in biology, especially bacteriophage, which there are billions of in the world. Some "philatelist" programs do little more than catalog and name phage.
Hey, there is even a mitochondrial protein named after my slashdot username: tom7.
A write-up on how this name came about, as well as what the Hedgehog family is all about, can be found in this February 1998 article:
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(page 2 for the Sonic reference)
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Bloody scientists... so unimaginative.... :)
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Because it has a nice *ring* to it? I look forward to Michael J Fox receiving his oscar for Back to the Future parts 4, 5 and 6 and thanking Sonic The Hedgehog for allowing him to return to his sterling acting career.