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Vancouver Bars Network Together to Track Patrons

Posted by michael on from the going-to-put-a-crimp-on-dollar-draft-night dept.

Tortured Potato writes "The Vancouver Sun reports that bar owners in the area will soon start tracking patrons by photo and driver's license. 'John Teti, chairman of the coalition, said the vote is merely a formality. "We have full backing from our members," Teti said Monday....Once the system is in place, patrons will be asked to stand in front of a camera to have their picture taken and will then swipe their drivers' licence, or possibly show some other form of identification, that will automatically give the establishment the patron's name and age and show if he or she has caused trouble at any other bar on the network.' I'm glad to see that Big Brother is alive and well on the left coast." This is the next step past merely swiping licenses.

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  1. This has been going on in Winnipeg for years... by sputnikid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ever since I was 18 (1998) in Winnipeg (its in Canada, for those educated in the US) they have been doing this.

    For all of the bars affiliated with the CanadInns Corp (www.canadinns.com) this was the standard routine for getting into a bar.

    - empty pockets into a basket
    - walk through metal detector
    - pick up belongings
    - hand bouncer your ID
    - bouncer photographs the license
    - pay cover

    And if you happen to be male they also check your name against their database to see if you have been banned from the bar or caused problems on an earlier occasion.

    This is really nothing new other than the fact that different owners are now sharing the information.

  2. Living Downtown Vancouver... by nettdata · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live downtown Vancouver, 2 blocks from the "granville row" that they refer to in the article.

    I've played in the house band of one of these clubs, and know a LOT of people that work and play in these clubs.

    I think this is a GOOD thing.

    Even as we speak, a friend of mine is STILL recuperating from a severe shit-kicking that happened within one of the bars over 2 months ago.

    She (yes, SHE) was minding her own business, when 2 guys bumped into her boyfriend, who turned around with the typical "WTF!?", and the 2 guys almost killed him. I wish I were being over-dramatic, but they literally ALMOST KILLED HIM. They knew how to fight, and they went at it. One of them even pulled out a collapsable baton and hit him while he was down. It should be mentioned that the guy who got shit-kicked was knocked down and unconscious before he even finished the "WTF!?".

    At this point, his girlfriend jumped in and tried to get them to stop, so they started beating her with the baton.

    This happened in less than 30 seconds, in front of a horrified bartender, and the guys were gone before any bouncers could arrive... and they weren't slow to get there.

    Even now the bar-scene staff, Vancouver Police, and RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police), are trying to figure out who the guys were and how to find them.

    The sad part is that it's not an isolated incedent. In-bar muggings and shootings are on the rise, with a number of East Indian and Asian gangs going nuts on each other.

    My whole philosophy is that it's private property, it's reasonable for the bars to ask you to do this to get in, and at the end of the day, you don't HAVE to go there. You don't like their policies, don't go.

    If anything, I'd rather see this story being discussed from a "technology-based solution to a problem" angle rather than a knee-jerk "oh my God they're coming to get us, put on your tinfoil hats!" angle.

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