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Send an Open Source Project to COMDEX
chromatic writes "O'Reilly & Associates is working with COMDEX to create an Open Source Innovation Area. We've nominated 21 important, interesting, and useful applications. Here's your chance to vote on the six most deserving applications. Steve Mallet has more details in his weblog." There's lots of good choices for applications on the list as well. Chances are that you've used one of them at least once.
With apps I use every day like OpenOffice.org, Gaim, SquirrelMail - and those that save me loads of time, phpMyAdmin and TightVNC it's such a hard choice!!
Now if only PHP-Nuke was on the list - it's what has revolutionalised my life as a webmaster!!
"We're sorry, you need to be logged in to vote for this contest."
Thank you for telling me that after I'd carefully chosen my votes. "To keep track we ask that you please log in to your O'Reilly Network account." wasn't a fair warning, you made it sound optional.
Where's Mozilla
I have over 70 freaks, do you?
Isn't PHP-Nuke one of those systems which helps webmasters create faceless, identical websites with little customisation and content beyond a colour scheme and a forum?
If you're dealing with an office worker, OpenOffice and Evolution are good candidates. Home users would like to see XMMS, mplayer, GAIM, and SpamAssassin. Admins would be interested in Tight VNC and SpamAssassin. The creative types would want GIMP and Audacity.
As for the desktop, it might be a good idea to stick with one for all your demonstration boxes (all KDE or all GNOME) but of course mention that alternatives exist.
It would be nice if Slashdot ran this poll. Internet polls like this are not so useful I suppose, but still it would be cool to see how various projects rank out. The three leaders could be the chosen ones.
My choices in the O'Reilly list are Subversion, OpenOffice.org and SpamAssassin. None of these projects have known patent issues or issues with 3rd parties such as MSN, AOL, Yahoo (the related projects such as mplayer and GAIM do an *excellent* job however).
Banu
Yeah the problem is, that the programs with most users will definitely get most votes. Audio editing is not so common task, and most of the people haven't heard from Eclipse, so even if they were great programs, they won't be faring well in this vote.
Using some kind of grading combined with the amount of votes would perhaps solve this problem, but I guess it's too late now..
http://codeandlife.com
One thing that makes it much easier is the fact that some of the project names are not very good. MoinMoin?
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This was the first time I've heard of Subversion and I can appreciate the clever file naming reference, but no PHB will have an app named subversion because I'm sure he'll believe it's already being used.
Those are the only 2 project names that really stand out as being bad
-B
In my previous life in marketing, I was an exhibitor in many Comdex shows. We stopped attending because so many of the 'customers' were job seekers...
I know it is not a software package (I know the scripts can be downloaded, but let me gat to what I am getting at), but the site provides a home to many of these projects i feel that COMDEX needs to add it as an honorary member of the list.
-Seriv
PHP nuke lets you choose a theme so it's not that bad... but the default themes need a visit from that tv show... Queer Eye for the straight GUI.
I thought Slashdotters always say that open source doesn't innovate? All I hear all day from Slashdotters is how open source should stop copying Microsoft and start innovating. And how we suddenly get a story that implies open source *does* innovate?
You Slashbots really have a double standard.
I'm sure I'll get moderated down to this but that only shows what kind of an anti-open source zealot place Slashdot has become.
I nominate SCO's corporate policy: on the basis of dubious reasoning, lay claim to the work of thousands of Open Source programmers, while simultaneously ensuring that if your claims are accepted, you'll kill the Golden Goose in the act of getting your hands on it!
I'm sure we'll all miss SCO (soon), even if you weren't a fan of their thievery there's no denying their contribution to popular culture. Truly an American icon.
Opinions on the Twiddler2 hand-held keyboard?
Yeah... It's the Open Source folks stealing code from the Closed Source products... Uh huh. Um, did you ever stop to think how difficult this would be? In comparison to say a closed source software company freely downloading the source to an open source project and taking a peek under the hood? Hmm... Look at all these nice open source products proudly shipping with SCO OpenServer 5.0.7:
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http://www.sco.com/products/openserver507/featu
That said, I'm just impressed with this short list. All of these are good options. This really shows how far Linux on the desktop has come. So much so I'm running Linux on my work-issued laptop in a Windows environment now. Many thanks to all the developers who have made this possible.
That's what it tells me to do.
But..
I don't have any...
Excuse me while I go to my room and cry a bit..
I can't find the Cowboy Neal option!
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Gee I thought phpNuke was long dead, I remember submiting patches to fix some trivial errors, (years ago) and the maintainer acted like I had personaly insulted him; next release had the same errors. The postnuke people forked off and have completely rewritten a fairly versital and more secure system. give it a look.
Apocalypse Cancelled, Sorry, No Ticket Refunds
I choose:
-OpenOffice
PHBs don't know about it. They should and I guarantee you when people see it they'll be impressed.
- Eclipse
Showed this IDE to mid-level managers the other day as part of our processes for choosing an IDE for a new project we are starting. All they kept saying it can do all of this and its what? Free? Are you sure we don't have to pay for something?
-Gimp
We are already using this and if its good enough for the special effect guy in Hollywood by god its good enough for your average joe shmuck GUI developer.
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One is born into aristocracy, but mediocrity can only be achieved through hard work.
These are all great applications. But why do any of them want to go to COMDEX? COMDEX tends to show off cool new technology like PDAs, video game hardware, and anything flashy. The fanboys won't care about a great email client. I like the idea of these projects getting exposure, but this may not be the best place.
Yeah the problem is, that the programs with most users will definitely get most votes.
It's for COMDEX, so that's probably a good thing. This is a chance to demonstrate mainstream apps to the mainstream.
Send lawyers, guns, and money. Dad, get me out of this.
GAIM: we need a killer,compatible IM with all features
MPLAYER: we need a media player that plays everything
OpenOffice.org: we need a document viewer that views and does everything.
See a trend in my choices? Repeat after me:
I-N-T-E-R-O-P-E-R-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y
Open Source Java Web Forum with LDAP authentication
They missed Nethack, too.
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
Some of the projects are highly usable now as they are, though the core tools are available to create your own customized company-wide applications.
A firewall can not protect you from yourself. Turn off what you do not need. Do not use the firewall to do your work.
Yeah, I still use XMMS since it gets the job done, but I'd like to see something better. I've tried Rythmbox, but it seems to screw up on some of the ID3 tags on my files and it can't edit them. I'd like to see a media library app integrate with MusicBrainz, not just for getting info for CD ripping, but also to check the tags on existing music files.
I voted for Evolution, the Gimp, and OpenOffice. I picked them for the marketing potential. These three products have mass-market potential, and COMDEX is a good way to get them in front of people who would otherwise perhaps never know there are alternatives to Exchange/Outlook and MSOffice.
Oh, great, let's send a legally questionable program to COMDEX and get it in the spotlight. MS , Real, Intel and Apple won't care that we ignore the EULA's and strip out dll's from their applications in order to make it work.
Maybe do a dual booth with Mplayer and DeCSS just to really make certain two of our most important desktop apps get removed.
Great thinking guys...
If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. - James Madison
Yes, this is a commen problem with this type of polls.
That is why I have made eigenpoll
which try to solve this.
Out of all the folks that I have ever known, those that use MS for an OS have stolen something to put on it, often times the whole OS is stolen. Let me think here if I know of anyone who hasn't,,,, hmm nope. My dad, my wife, random folks met at school, friends, enemies, you name it. It's many times a brag to see how much monies worth and who has most. Crazy though that all that P2P that just works flawlessly with MS. So far as illegal activity among Linux users, I am the only one in my area I know of that even knows what the heck it is,, now thats a crime, your right I guess. The font issue I never had any trouble with, knowing of course that there was't much that could be done about it considering those pixels were taken from all us by the big dogs. SCO is irrelevant, cept that they are shed more light on the true intentions of corporate lack of cooperation with people. SCO is flappy flappish maybe because they are lose and playing the stock fools and cash out bye bye. Blatant in front of the whole worlds trained to be blind eyers. I shouldn't even comment for you show clearly that you, Mr. Anonymous, have a similar limited view and no personal experience a subject of human science.
The chance for us to demonstrate such a direct competition to Microsoft at COMDEX would be well worth leaving leaving another project behind.
I'm choosing projects that are cross platform, such as Gimp, OpenOffice, and tightVNC.
As important as it may be to move away from Windows, it is just as important to support it and show people what open source can do for them now with no long term investment.
You can't replace the OS until all the Apps are in place and equivilant, and it'll be so much easier to convert people if they are already using popular opensource/free software on their current platform.
When the next round of office upgrades come around, they'll look at the price and switch. When the next round of OS upgrades come along, they'll look and switch.
-Adam
One thing is for sure however, Mplayer is something that should succeed. In addition, it seems as if you might not be as informed as the developers in the legalities of the game.
It looks like a good Wiki, though.
It also lets you vote more than once - that is, once per day. That right there throws the whole concept out the window.
Gee, I vote, they get an account. Lets run this poll on Slashdot instead!
Ulch - that meat was tainted! You feel deathly sick. Do you want your posessions identified?
You are not required to 'publish' your source code - you just have to give it to anyone you have given the binary to, i.e. your investment firm customers. They can do what they want with it of course .... but then they asked you to do it with GPLed Linux in the first place. From the GPL FAQ (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLRequi reSourcePostedPublic):
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'...the GPL requires you to make the modified source code available to the program's users, under the GPL'
Note the 'to the programs users' bit.
Compiling with gcc does *not* place the compiled code under the GPL, as long as any linked libraries are not GPLed (they can be LGPLed). See, again, the GPL FAQ, http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#CanIUseG
HTH
I'd agree with all of the apps on this list as being very worthy of nomination, but I am shocked that Samba is not there.
Well, maybe that's because you called her a 'he' one too many times?
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
i would take gnuCash off that list and put something like Compiere. gnuCash is nice and all but at comdex it would look silly. it would be like taking Amanda there.
... maybe you could toss that into my qmail mix below somehow.
same with Xmms, 'wow it looks like just winamplinux has a winamp clone, how cute.'
MoinMoin? twiki blows this project away, you lost me on this nomination.
spamassassin? wont mcafee already have spamassassin there in the form of spamkiller? but seriously
how about showing off snort? or swan interopering with some real world hardware
how about setting up five little machines running qmail and blast a million delivered mail messages between the machines per hour and have a big led bank sign as a counter? then add and import thousands of users dynamically using ldap.
members are seeing something, your seeing an ad
Isn't it among the most innovative open source applications of recent times?
I had no problem hitting Evolution, GIMP and OpenOffice. Of course mortals aren't allowed to vote.
Put the serious apps up front and the rest will follow. Gotta put on a good show against the competition too. All IMHO.
Someone set us up the bomb, so shine we are!
Wouldn't be very much on-topic, per se, but it could be really funny...
Bruce Lane, KC7GR,
Blue Feather Technologies
Are even 2 of those titles innovative? The majority of them are copies of commerical software and poor copies at that.
The audience is anyone attending COMDEX - therefore you don't want development or admin tools, no matter how good they are.
I actually chose OpenOffice, Evolution, nad Gimp to give more exposure to them to the general public. But on reflection Audacity would have been a much better choice than Evolution for that crowd.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
RB is getting a lot of active contributions. I think you'll see some very interesting changes coming. We're hoping that RB will be a part of GNOME 2.6.
sri
99.5% of Linux apps are blatant rip-offs from Windows/MacOS. What innovation are we talking about here?
Then again, I could just say that my finger slipped as I was typing "she". They put the S key so close to the no-op key....
It's the most mature content management system that I have ever come across, built on top of the mature zope application server. I am dismayed at how few people actually know of this project or have used it.
I am in the plone mailing list and I am reading about 50,000 user installations and larger. I have been using it to create a cognitive map of everything I read and it's an incredible tool. In the context of a knowlege base or knowledge sharing in academia or in a company, it makes it easy to decide who is a contributitor, who is a reviewr, who is an editor.
Anyway, enough, just check it out.
Zoe is also very, very cool.
And both applications have tremendous enterprise and home user appeal.
Pragmatism as an ideology is not particularly pragmatic in the long term. Keep it in mind when you dismiss Free Software
I nominate FreeBSD and OpenBSD.
Then send them to David Wheeler's report on quantitative data which shows the strength of open source projects.
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