I'm not sure what point you were trying to make other than "marketing and sales people" are wastes of space. Which makes absolutely no sense in a business. You need all parts to succeed. Your condescending tone and arrogance is amusing though. Not that your opinion matters much to me. My comment wasn't directed at you anyways as much for others reading this thread.
Yeah, that's why despite all that Trump is reputedly still calls Bannon for advice.::eye roll:: The mainstream GOP doesn't give a shit about anything as long as they can pass more tax cuts. That's the only ideas they have.
As a former Purdue grad, the joke I hear when I visit West Lafayette, is that Indiana's greatest export is it's people. Nobody is interested in staying here because the state government is terrible. Pence apparently did a number of idiotic things there that even pissed off the Indiana Republican party.
Long ago, Indiana was a great conservative state, and I absorbed some great aspects of its conservatism. But conservatism is nothing more than a cult that has no intellectual heft behind any of its positions. In the end, most red states who practices the current form of conservatism is slowly rotting frm the inside. It's like Egypt and other countries, where they distract their population by talking about social cultural issues. So moronic.
You do realize that California by itself has an economy bigger than most countries, right? Agriculture is one of it's biggest exports. The entire west coast is filled with agriculture as well as a burgeoning tech culture.
It is well documented that a number of red states (san places like Texas and Florida) take more than they give when it comes to federal dollars. Blue states tend to have to pay more to make up for shitty economic policies of red states or whatever they call conservatism. In the war of ideas, conservative ideas have failed time and time again - see Kansas and Oklahoma.
Ask yourself, why doesn't Peter Thiel not go to Kansas? It's because assholes have tried trickle down economics to the point that they can't even fund 5 days of school. If you're a startup, do you think that's a good place to setup shop. Nobody is going to go there where there are poor resources.
What a laughable argument. Ever been to a left of center rally? It's an amazingly positive vibe. it's because the left is a highly diverse set of people with different views that we try to accept. A right of center (if such a thing exists these days) doesn't have the diversity seen in the left and suffers from group think. Since they are mostly fighting for something they can't have, it is a pit of rage and hostility.
As an engineer turned marketing, I think you're off base. The company I work for now, has people with backgrounds in theater and dance. The kind of creative energy that comes between us is really amazing. I sometimes thing like a engineer, and they approach problems different from me. I feed them the tech and community input and then we together create a story.
You'll need another service for that. but othewise a lockbox or something. You just need to change how the "last mile" looks like. But problematic if you are disabled or can't move around.
Its true the rich won't want to share the wealth, but they do want to stay rich. Getting raw materials and what not still costs money, training smart people still costs money to keep improving technology. The rich are still sociopaths, so they will continue to want to vie with each other for supremacy. So while there won't be utopia, there will be indentured servitude of some sort. Someone still has to cook, look pretty, and what not. Pehrpas they'll have sex bots too..
In any case, I think in the end, we don't really want idle human beings, they get bored and cause trouble. But it might lead to a big reduction in population which might be a good thing.
This is not a fair statement to make. It is akin to the same mentality from people who say "why do I need IT? I can just go to a store and buy a laptop and self support.". What goes into the clevo shell is still done by System76, making sure they work with Linux, have a customer support framework around it, and so forth. Plus there are contributing upstream with fixes to GNOME, fixes to Ubuntu, and is part of the eco-system.
You might also consider that Purism doesn't make their own laptops either.
That's hilarious. Have you ever worked at a corporation? Ever notice when all the lower pegs get fired, but not the managers or executives? All of us office workers have seen that. There is firing on the spot if you have no real political power, but the people who are encouraging such a thing would be off the hook. So yeah, maybe individual bad egg might get fired most likely because they got caught, but there would still be a systemic policy encouraging bad egg behavior.
People who believe privatized police or fireman or whatever is some panacea are blind to the realities. Every system is open to social engineering and pressure add the profit motive and it gets worse especially when it comes to crime.
We can all blame Nixon and the drug war for high incarceration rates. Until we stop the drug war, things will not change. The previous administration understood that. The current administration is an abomination with Sessions who wants to bring that back. Ultimately, just removing republicans from political power will help things immeasurably.
The difference of course is that those other desktops probably wont respect your privacy as much as a Free desktop would. The inflection point comes when they realize that they can become part of a community instead of just a consumer. Granted our community could use some work, but diversity will be good for all of us. The other thing is that once you are in the Linux realm, as you become better acquainted, you can jump desktops and go somewhere else.
Please note that I referred to webapps not a tablet. And yes, I have said that GNOME is not a tablet and what I said does not contradict what I said. If you go to amazon's website, you can see the same visual elements like popovers being used.
These days, webapps are popular making the OS immaterial. If you spend all your time in browsers then who cares what OS you use? In which case, you might as well use Linux and not have to pay the OS tax. There are companies like Dell, ZaReason and System76 that include Linux in their build and you can go from there.
I don't have evidence per se, but children who grew up never being exposed to the windows interface would readily pick up the GNOME interface given its design that is similar to webapps.
yet, we made the other thing he likes. Same people, made the first iteration. Of course, this is why they are angry, because we apparently took this great thing they loved so much and turned into something they didn't like. Even though there is an alternative, slandering is still an easy thing to do on the internet especially on a group of people giving away their work and not getting paid.
The people who worked on this is a font expert and the GTK+ maintainer. The nautilus maintainer was not involved, he was, working on nautilus. Developer time is not fungible. The font guy cannot turn around and work on nautilus. He works fonts and he provided a capability that we accepted.
GNOME can't run on phones.. it is a completely different UI. This comes from complete ignorance of someone who has never run GNOME but is simply prejudiced from just looking at it. It is a very keyboard driven interface.
I'm probably as old as you. You'e used to a particular paradigm and see no point in the change. But younger generations are growing up on touch screens and cell phones. If we stayed with the old paradigm, the only users we have will be you. The mission is to spread free software, and that means moving with the times to attract the next generation of software consumers. Are you a cumudgeon about your cell phone or tablet? Kindle?
No input devices are coming like touch screens that we do support, and should support. They all create new ways to interact with the computer. Staying with what it was in 20 years is a good way to become irrelevant.
Thanks for trying for helping. You're life will be a lot pleasanter not engaging with people with such caustic oniine personality. There is nothing we have done that would generate this level of vitriol. It's just a desktop. Sheesh.
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I'm not sure what point you were trying to make other than "marketing and sales people" are wastes of space. Which makes absolutely no sense in a business. You need all parts to succeed. Your condescending tone and arrogance is amusing though. Not that your opinion matters much to me. My comment wasn't directed at you anyways as much for others reading this thread.
Or reject what science says and go with junk science from non-scientists. Force a country to be a christian nation, follow christian ideology
NC would be a perfect place for him. Considering what facists the Republican party has been there.
Yeah, that's why despite all that Trump is reputedly still calls Bannon for advice. ::eye roll:: The mainstream GOP doesn't give a shit about anything as long as they can pass more tax cuts. That's the only ideas they have.
As a former Purdue grad, the joke I hear when I visit West Lafayette, is that Indiana's greatest export is it's people. Nobody is interested in staying here because the state government is terrible. Pence apparently did a number of idiotic things there that even pissed off the Indiana Republican party.
Long ago, Indiana was a great conservative state, and I absorbed some great aspects of its conservatism. But conservatism is nothing more than a cult that has no intellectual heft behind any of its positions. In the end, most red states who practices the current form of conservatism is slowly rotting frm the inside. It's like Egypt and other countries, where they distract their population by talking about social cultural issues. So moronic.
You do realize that California by itself has an economy bigger than most countries, right? Agriculture is one of it's biggest exports. The entire west coast is filled with agriculture as well as a burgeoning tech culture. It is well documented that a number of red states (san places like Texas and Florida) take more than they give when it comes to federal dollars. Blue states tend to have to pay more to make up for shitty economic policies of red states or whatever they call conservatism. In the war of ideas, conservative ideas have failed time and time again - see Kansas and Oklahoma. Ask yourself, why doesn't Peter Thiel not go to Kansas? It's because assholes have tried trickle down economics to the point that they can't even fund 5 days of school. If you're a startup, do you think that's a good place to setup shop. Nobody is going to go there where there are poor resources.
What a laughable argument. Ever been to a left of center rally? It's an amazingly positive vibe. it's because the left is a highly diverse set of people with different views that we try to accept. A right of center (if such a thing exists these days) doesn't have the diversity seen in the left and suffers from group think. Since they are mostly fighting for something they can't have, it is a pit of rage and hostility.
As an engineer turned marketing, I think you're off base. The company I work for now, has people with backgrounds in theater and dance. The kind of creative energy that comes between us is really amazing. I sometimes thing like a engineer, and they approach problems different from me. I feed them the tech and community input and then we together create a story.
Not everyone can do that. Depending on the age, a lot of people don't want to learn new skills or start over or whatever, and it takes perseverence.
You'll need another service for that. but othewise a lockbox or something. You just need to change how the "last mile" looks like. But problematic if you are disabled or can't move around.
Its true the rich won't want to share the wealth, but they do want to stay rich. Getting raw materials and what not still costs money, training smart people still costs money to keep improving technology. The rich are still sociopaths, so they will continue to want to vie with each other for supremacy. So while there won't be utopia, there will be indentured servitude of some sort. Someone still has to cook, look pretty, and what not. Pehrpas they'll have sex bots too.. In any case, I think in the end, we don't really want idle human beings, they get bored and cause trouble. But it might lead to a big reduction in population which might be a good thing.
This is not a fair statement to make. It is akin to the same mentality from people who say "why do I need IT? I can just go to a store and buy a laptop and self support.". What goes into the clevo shell is still done by System76, making sure they work with Linux, have a customer support framework around it, and so forth. Plus there are contributing upstream with fixes to GNOME, fixes to Ubuntu, and is part of the eco-system. You might also consider that Purism doesn't make their own laptops either.
That's hilarious. Have you ever worked at a corporation? Ever notice when all the lower pegs get fired, but not the managers or executives? All of us office workers have seen that. There is firing on the spot if you have no real political power, but the people who are encouraging such a thing would be off the hook. So yeah, maybe individual bad egg might get fired most likely because they got caught, but there would still be a systemic policy encouraging bad egg behavior.
People who believe privatized police or fireman or whatever is some panacea are blind to the realities. Every system is open to social engineering and pressure add the profit motive and it gets worse especially when it comes to crime.
We can all blame Nixon and the drug war for high incarceration rates. Until we stop the drug war, things will not change. The previous administration understood that. The current administration is an abomination with Sessions who wants to bring that back. Ultimately, just removing republicans from political power will help things immeasurably.
The difference of course is that those other desktops probably wont respect your privacy as much as a Free desktop would. The inflection point comes when they realize that they can become part of a community instead of just a consumer. Granted our community could use some work, but diversity will be good for all of us. The other thing is that once you are in the Linux realm, as you become better acquainted, you can jump desktops and go somewhere else.
Please note that I referred to webapps not a tablet. And yes, I have said that GNOME is not a tablet and what I said does not contradict what I said. If you go to amazon's website, you can see the same visual elements like popovers being used. These days, webapps are popular making the OS immaterial. If you spend all your time in browsers then who cares what OS you use? In which case, you might as well use Linux and not have to pay the OS tax. There are companies like Dell, ZaReason and System76 that include Linux in their build and you can go from there.
I don't have evidence per se, but children who grew up never being exposed to the windows interface would readily pick up the GNOME interface given its design that is similar to webapps.
yet, we made the other thing he likes. Same people, made the first iteration. Of course, this is why they are angry, because we apparently took this great thing they loved so much and turned into something they didn't like. Even though there is an alternative, slandering is still an easy thing to do on the internet especially on a group of people giving away their work and not getting paid.
Some people have some irrational principles.
The people who worked on this is a font expert and the GTK+ maintainer. The nautilus maintainer was not involved, he was, working on nautilus. Developer time is not fungible. The font guy cannot turn around and work on nautilus. He works fonts and he provided a capability that we accepted.
GNOME can't run on phones.. it is a completely different UI. This comes from complete ignorance of someone who has never run GNOME but is simply prejudiced from just looking at it. It is a very keyboard driven interface.
I'm probably as old as you. You'e used to a particular paradigm and see no point in the change. But younger generations are growing up on touch screens and cell phones. If we stayed with the old paradigm, the only users we have will be you. The mission is to spread free software, and that means moving with the times to attract the next generation of software consumers. Are you a cumudgeon about your cell phone or tablet? Kindle?
No input devices are coming like touch screens that we do support, and should support. They all create new ways to interact with the computer. Staying with what it was in 20 years is a good way to become irrelevant.
Thanks for trying for helping. You're life will be a lot pleasanter not engaging with people with such caustic oniine personality. There is nothing we have done that would generate this level of vitriol. It's just a desktop. Sheesh.