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New Method To Generate Electricity from Water

spaceling writes "The BBC reports reporting on research published in the Institute of Physics Journal of Micromechanics and Microengineering of the first new method of generating electricity in over 150 years. Larry Kostiuk and Daniel Kwok 'created a glass block, two centimetres in diameter and three millimetres thick, containing about 400,000 to 500,000 individual channels...[and] generated about 10 volts with a current of around a milliamp. This allowed the team to successfully power a lightbulb.'" This has also been covered all over the place.

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  1. generating electricity by Speedy8 · · Score: 1, Informative

    BTW, nuclear reactors are not a new way of generating energy that was discovered in the last hundred and fifty years.

    1. Re:generating electricity by EricTheRed · · Score: 5, Informative

      True except that Nuclear Reactors don't generate electricity directly - they do so by converting water into steam which powers turbines, and the base technology for that is 150years old or so.

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    2. Re:generating electricity by TotalTossa · · Score: 2, Informative

      BTW, nuclear reactors are not a new way of generating energy that was discovered in the last hundred and fifty years.

      Nuclear reactors are just a new(ish) way of heating water.
      Spinning turbines with steam to generate electricity is as old as your hat.

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  2. Re:Laws of thermo-dynamics by BillFarber · · Score: 4, Informative

    The energy comes from the water pressure requiredd to force the water to flow through the channels.

  3. My 2 cents by asciimonster · · Score: 2, Informative

    As far as I understand it, The glass around the chaneels is charged; for easy let's say it's positively charged. When water with ions (read: salt) is pumped through the tubes the positive ions cannot pass: they are repelled and stay behind, whereas the negative ions can move freely through the tube and out the other end. Entrance is positive, exit is negative, hence the potential difference and current can be extracted. The energy comes from the pumping power and is converted to electrical power. I just don't see how you can keep water pressurised for months while the floodgates (tubes) are open, because that's what you'll have to do if you want to make it into a battery...

    All in all it's not as intricate as the BBC makes it out to be...

  4. THIS IS NOT A NEW WAY OF GENERATING ELECTRICITY! by glomph · · Score: 3, Informative

    See, for instance, http://www.amasci.com/emotor/kelvin.html

    Which operates under a very similar principle, but with macrochannels. I built one of these when I was a kid, thirty-some years ago. It is so damn cool, your tongue sticks to it!

  5. 1st new way in 150 years? Seems doubtful. by internic · · Score: 2, Informative

    So it seems like there must have been a few new technologies for generating electricity in the last 150 years. Many people mentioned that nuclear power plants use steam driven turbines, an old method of producing electricity; however, I have read about some that heat a conducting liquid and then the energy is converted into electricity using magnets and the Lorentz force. This must be fairly new, since it probably couldn't even have been understood until the mid to late 17th century. I've certainly never really heard of people using this sort of method until more recently.

    Also, what about photovoltaics and like technologies in solar cells. Clearly, those must have been around since before 1905 (when Einstein explained the effect); however, I'd guess they are newer than 150 years old.

    What about fuel cells? Getting energy from converting oxygen and hydrogen into water (or a similar reaction with methenol or whatever) is not a new concept, but using a membrain to harness the electrical energy seems to be a fairly new idea. Unless you don't consider it to be different from a battery.

    I'm not sure the claim is false, but it seems quite dubious.

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  6. Re:Photoeclectric effect is not 150 years old by michael_cain · · Score: 3, Informative

    Correct. Discovery of the photoelectric effect is credited to Hertz in 1887, so it's less than 120 years old even if you use that discovery, rather than Einstein's explaining how it works.

  7. Re:Sounds like a van der Graaf by arivanov · · Score: 2, Informative

    No it is not.

    For anyone with university level knowledge of chemistry this is extremely fascinating because it harnesses the biggest pest in electrolysis and battery design. The so called dual layer phenomena.

    So even if it never ever makes it to become a decent generator the reseach may still give insight in making existing devices and fuel cells more efficient

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