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Toshiba Pushes Safe, Small Nuclear Reactor Design

core plexus writes "This article describes a proposal from a Japanese corporation that wants to thrust the Interior Alaska community of Galena into international limelight by donating a new, unconventional electricity-generating plant that would light and heat the Yukon River village pollution-free for 30 years. There's a catch, of course. It's a nuclear reactor. Not a huge, Three Mile Island-type power plant but a new generation of small nuclear reactor about the size of a big spruce tree. Designers say the technology is safe, simple and cheap enough to replace diesel-fired generators as the primary energy source for villages across rural Alaska."

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  1. Ignorance by mrtroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The word 'nuclear' makes me nervous," said Randy Virgin of the Alaska Center for the Environment. "But we've long seen the problems with diesel, and I'm pretty excited about the prospect of a clean source of energy," he said. "It sounds very promising, but I'd approach it with extreme skepticism."

    There is soooo much less polution from nuclear reactors given the probability of worst case scenarios versus the diesel they are currently using. Why are we still burning fossel fuels!@!#@#!@!#

    They arent in a location very suitable for wind/solar either, so nuclear seems like the best non-renewable solution.

    Such a backwards society we live in, when technology is available and safe, and we delay in implementation.

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    1. Re:Ignorance by JonMartin · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Such a backwards society we live in, when technology is available and safe, and we delay in implementation.

      Clearly a name change is needed. Just like MRIs (magnetic resonance imaging) used to be called NRIs (nuclear ...). Maybe something like "elemental decay engines" would be less scary for the illiterate masses?

      I can hear them now: "It has the word 'decay' in it. Is it like composting?"

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  2. People in Alasks don't HEART Nature. by FatSean · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They live in harsh conditions and don't romanticize about it. Something like this would make life easier...wonder how many gallons of fuel oil a village goes through a year.

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  3. Re:Pollution Free? by ajensen · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I wonder why they some small "village" in Alaska - perhaps this technology isn't as safe as they might like us to think? ;)

    There's actually some sound reasoning behind this. By putting such a nuclear reactor in a small village, they will be able to provide power to the entire surrounding area instead of just a fraction. If this was placed in a large city, you would have to somehow partition the power grid into small pieces. Not impossible, but not as easy as simply replacing the diesel generators at this small village.

    They may also be trying to market this specifically as a solution for those small, remote sites. Imagine how much diesel fuel would be burned over the course of thirty years -- then realize that a small amount of nuclear fuel could do the same job. Yes, yes, I know that nuclear waste will last much longer than thirty years. The advantage, however, is that nuclear waste is much more manageable and, if taken care of properly, is not as damaging to the environment.

    Cheers,

    -a

  4. Re:nuclear power is cleaner.... by Gilmoure · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think placing spent fuel into subduction zones on the sea floor, so that they get recycled would be a good idea.

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  5. Re:Nuclear material in remote, unsecured locations by Cheeko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except that its in a hardened, sealed concrete enclosure, meaning there would be no way to access the material short of digging it up, and then using a jackhammer and doing some welding to get inside the facility. On top of this you'd have to shut the reactor down, so you'd have an entire village that knows something is up. Add to that that this is NON-WEAPONS grade Uranium, and there is much less motivation. If a bad guy wanted just plane radioactive material there are far far far easier ways to get a hold of it, than these reactors.

  6. Not a bad idea by iabervon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's got a design where it needs mechanical energy to stay critical, so it can't break down and stay critical, and over-production won't increase the production rate. It doesn't irradiate the parts that could need to be serviced or any liquids. It contains the fuel needed for 30 years, which isn't that much in terms of a big plant (121 days supply for a normal-sized plant). Won't need to be changed for 30 years, and it'll be pretty obvious if someone tries to steal the core.

    The only problem I can see with it (aside from public perception) is that it involves a shaft dug into permafrost. I'd be somewhat worried that a wet fall followed by a sudden cold spell could lead to the shaft getting crushed.

    Of course, it will be hard to sell people on, despite the fact that this is probably a much safer thing to have in your back yard than a gas main. I'd like one in my back yard, except for the fact that it's not cost-effective to run, unless you're in the middle of nowhere in a place without sunlight.

  7. I want one in MY backyard by macemoneta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The typical response with most nuclear devices is "not in my backyard". However, the technology used in modern reactors is exactly the type I DO want. And yes, they can put it in my backyard (heck, they can put it on my property for free, in exchange for free hydrogen, electricty, and heat). I hadn't considered Alaska as a retirement location, but where do I sign up?

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    1. Re:I want one in MY backyard by macemoneta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Contrary to popular belief, radioactive material isn't manufactured. It's dug up out of the ground and purified.

      What comes out of these reactors is much less radioactive, for a much shorter period of time. You can safely put it back in the ground, in a non-water soluble, non-concentrated form.

      Yes, you can put that in my backyard too. I strongly suggest that people that consider this a problem not live near me. It will dramatically improve the intelligence in the area. :-)

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  8. Re:Funny thing about the French by HeghmoH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's the other major accident? Everyone knows about Chernobyl, of course. And everyone talks about TMI, but the fact is that there is not a single death traceable to TMI, and there was basically no release of anything harmful.

    The actual proportion in France is 75% of electric power generation from nuclear. Another 15% is other "clean" power, such as hydro. The remaining 10% is evil dirty "burning stuff" electricity. I live pretty close to about five reactors here, and I feel pretty safe. It's preferable to having a bunch of coal plants dumping crap (including a fair amount of uranium!) into the air.

    Nuclear really is the way to go. The only major accident, Chernobyl, was only possible due to the collusion of a horribly unsafe plant design, and moronic operators who decided to run an experiment (i.e. try something out that was way beyond the design specs) and turn off all of the safety systems while they were doing it. So, surprise surprise, the thing made a big KABOOM.

    If coal plants had to live under the same radiation emission guidelines as nuclear power, they would never be able to operate. So I agree completely, get rid of nuclear phobias (in other countries, there doesn't seem to be a lot of it here!) and get rid of heavy pollution in electrical generation.

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  9. Re:nuclear power is cleaner.... by b-baggins · · Score: 4, Insightful

    90% of the problem with nuclear power is the tremendous ignorance of people regarding it.

    Dangerous nuclear waste hangs around for a couple of weeks. The 50,000 year stuff is all low-level stuff. People living in Colorado will get more radiation mowing their yards.

    We're constantly bombarded with radiation NOW. Everywhere. In the food we eat, in the water we drink, in the air we breathe.

    A major nuclear disaster would be, well, like Chernobyl. Really bad in the surrounding area, Nothing at all a hundred miles away.

    But Chernobyl does bring out the biggest danger with nuclear power. idiot bureaucrats running the reactors.

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  10. Re:Villages? by jdray · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Again, RTFA. The steam loop is secondary. The primary loop is liquid sodium and located below ground. You'd have to be one fancy driver to even hit the secondary loop, considering that it's in the middle of a concrete building, and getting to the primary loop would be nigh impossible. Furthermore, security around nuclear power plants tends to be pretty tight. When's the last time you heard of any one, anywhere in the world, getting an unauthorized pickup near a reactor building, or even onto a campus?

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