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Oscar Screener Ban to be Revoked for Academy Members

bigjocker writes "Yahoo is reporting that the ban to distribute screeners copies will be revoked. The bad news is that only members of the Academy will receive them." It's still unclear how this will affect events such as the Golden Globe awards. According to the article, several critics' organisations have yet to decide their reaction. I'm guessing that at the least, Academy members are pleased to know they won't have to find a theatre to screen award nominees.

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  1. Bad News? by WEFUNK · · Score: 5, Funny

    The bad news is that only members of the Academy will receive them."

    Don't feel so bad, I know this academy member who always makes a few copies for his friends...

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  2. Academy Members Spared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    shouldn't that read "academy members will be pleazed to know that they too wont have to get on Kazaa to see the movies?"

  3. Imagine the horror by AvantLegion · · Score: 2, Funny
    Thank God the poor Academy members have been spared the torture of going to public theaters!

    Imagine how hard it would be to judge moving dramas with the welfare mother 2 rows behind them, yelling "callete! callete!" at her 11 screaming kids. Not to mention the fat redneck guy in the row in front of you, taking up 2 seats (exposed butt-crack nested on the unmoveable arm rest). How could anyone enjoy a movie like that?

    Actually, this experience seems familiar...

    1. Re:Imagine the horror by kfg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, and they're also spared having to decide what to vote for when many of the movies under consideration can't be seen in a movie theater within hundreds of miles of where they live.

      There are more catagories than "Best Big Stupid Blockbuster."

      A lot of Academy members are just working shlubs too. Wives, kids, toilets that don't flush but roofs that do. They don't necessarily have time to go traipsing around looking for obscure films that even the art houses stopped showing months ago, but they can pop a DVD in the player a few nights a week after getting the kiddies to bed.

      Not distributing screeners is not only dumb, it's pointless for avoiding piracy. Hell, most of the stuff is in the wild already.

      KFG

  4. Re:Do you want to know what I think about this? by falcon5768 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    you should, the reasoning behind why they banned them in the first place put the blame on us Technology geeks, cause we where illegaly trading DVD's with friends of the movies.

    Now we all know the real reason was cause they where pissed off indies where winning on a regular basis cause major motion pictures have sucked balls in recent years, but to have the blame put on us cause we where the easiest target and couldn't fight back against the MPAA (the people who decided this) it became us as the bad guys who where the cause of indie movies not being able to be allowed to send out DVD's to the voters

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  5. You just gotta wonder by JWW · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What they are going to say when movies are leaked now? It will happen.

    The movie industry will have to fess up that some of the most respected people in their industry are in fact IP theives. Just like they want to paint everyone else to be. It'll be fun to watch.

    1. Re:You just gotta wonder by fishbowl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >What they are going to say when movies are
      >leaked now? It will happen.

      It will be funny, too. I'm willing to bet the "leaker" turns out not only to be an insider, but one that nobody will have the guts to criticize (much less, prosecute.)

      I think the fact that zero-day (or even negative) warez'd movies are available AT ALL, is an indicator of dissent within the ranks of the industry.

      I'd have a good laugh if it turned out the whole thing was Valenti's henchmen playing both sides against the middle, too.

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  6. They should watermark them. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The accademy should (quietly) distribute watermarked copies - with individual watermarks - to the members - and then take action against the responsible member(s) if the material ends up on the black market.

    It's the height of hypocracy to swat at unauthorized copiers among the customer base in such a way as to create massive colateral damage among non-violators while simultaneously giving the industry insiders immunity.

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    1. Re:They should watermark them. by cK-Gunslinger · · Score: 4, Informative

      What a great idea and insightful idea!

      From the article (emphasis mine):

      The studios reportedly agreed to send out VHS screeners (recipients previously had a choice between VHS and DVD) encrypted with a special security code traceable to individual Academy members. (Such a move will, presumably, keep the likes of Steven Spielberg (news) from cranking out a few extra copies and selling them on eBay.)

    2. Re:They should watermark them. by stephanruby · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You can't really put an image across the screen that takes away from the visual effect of the film, and by the same token, you don't want tones on the audio track that take away from the soundstage. Any watermark would simply be useless in the longrun.

      An "image"? You only need to change the shade of ONE pixel in the entire movie to make a unique watermark. In that situation, hackers will be able to reconstruct the original movie if they have access to multiple watermarked copies of the same movie.

      So assuming we have 1000 Oscar Members, the real solution would be to watermark 1000 pixels and to have 999 identical overlapping watermarks accross multiple copies of the movie. This way, everytime a hacker runs into a tainted pixel, he will be fooled into thinking it was in the original movie.

    3. Re:They should watermark them. by GMontag451 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      An "image"? You only need to change the shade of ONE pixel in the entire movie to make a unique watermark.

      Riight. And that one changed pixel is going to stay there when rippers reencode to SVCD or DivX while changing resolutions and bitrates. Sheesh.

  7. At least... by DarkBlackFox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At least the MPAA is taking a more consumer-friendly approach to it's piracy problem. No matter what they do, I applaud them for not caving in to the level of the RIAA by sending supoenas to their consumer base.

  8. "The bad news?" by spellcheckur · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "The bad news..."

    Seriously?

    Really, how is this bad news for anyone who isn't trying to steal content? I'm a strong advocate of being able to backup and/or copy things that I have a legal right to. I'm also a strong opponent of "tools" like the DMCA that use corporate fear to try to over-legislate or get rid of technology because it *could be* used to break the law.

    But restricting screeners to academy members is only "bad news" if you were hoping that someone in the wider distribution list was going to copy the movies and distribute.

    Espousing piracy significantly weakens an anti-MPAA stance. In fact, it plays right into the pro-MPAA argument saying "the only reason people want the ability to copy is so they can pirate."

    If you're against the MPAA's position on heavy-handed anti-technology legislation, I'm with you. If you're only in it because you want to steal some stuff... coun't me out.

    1. Re:"The bad news?" by jimmcq · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Really, how is this bad news for anyone who isn't trying to steal content?

      For a lot of independant films (or just about any film that doesn't come from one of the major mega-corporate studios) the screeners are just about the only way that they get seen by the Academy members. So, this is really bad news for indpendant film makers whom have won a lot of awards in the past because screeners allowed more voters to actually see their films.

  9. Re:This just in... by KFury · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'll tell you who does : the legions of people who download those screeners on P2P. They are the true big losers of this decision.

    No. The big losers are the ones who don't grok the post. The decision repeals the ban of home copies. This means the P2P folk once again have access to these films.

    So, other than saying that P2P pirates are losers in the first place, you've got it backwards.

  10. Please read before you post "I Dont Care" by falcon5768 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    as usual slashdot never tells you WHY this is tech, well he is the lowdown.

    The reason they banned the DVD's was they said tech geeks where pirating the movies too much when they sent the DVD's out, so likewise to prevent it they wouldnt let anyone (major studios, or indie) release them out to the voters, making the voters go to the local movie theaters to see them.

    The truth was they where putting the blame on us cause we where an easy target, the real reason they banned them was the only way most indie movies got screened and voted on WAS caused they released them on DVD to the voters. The majors pissed they have lost so many oscars to the indies decided what would be the best way to tip the scales and saw the fact that most theaters dont play indies or play them for a very limited time that it was a easy way to get more major films screened and voted on than minor ones.

    SOOOOO all of the big wigs wispered in the ears of the MPAA to get the ban put in place, and the MPAA not caring about the 100 or so indie companies under their wings put the sweaping ban in place much to the horror to all of the critics/indies/directors/and actors who had both not a clue it was going to happen and no say when it did happen.

    Well in protest a huge number of smaller awards shows decided to take the year off, along with the Golden Globes which shocked the MPAA into realizing it made a horrable mistake since not only was the excuse of it was the piraters fault not taken seriously but everyone was now gunning to take the MPAA down including its own members who outnumbered the small majority of major studio members who where in control.

    and thus why we should care, cause while no one took them to be serious, we the Tech geeks where to blam with yet another of lifes problems that really isnt a problem.

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    1. Re:Please read before you post "I Dont Care" by falcon5768 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      well its isnt tech in it's self but you should worry about the implications it has.

      already both the RIAA and MPAA have made it clear we are the new whipping- boy evil geek in the basment that they are going to use to both lie as to why thing that should cost 4 bucks or less are 20 bucks or more/ and why they are "losing money even at that."

      one just has to see those FUCKING ads before the movie on how Im hurting the painter, or the brown dots on the screen to see that we need to take a stand and show the public that its not the tech geeks but the own greed of these organizations who are destroying movies and music.

      The public can be easly swayed, and if we are not carefull very soon a lot more of our rights as consumers will be killed off than the ones the DMCA does already.

      The digital age will be a VERY different place from today

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  11. Great news for independant films. by gatekeep · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Roger Ebert wrote a column about this when the decision to ban screeners was announced. I tend to agree with most of his points, and can't wait to see what he says about this latest turn of events. We should all be happy, and not because this likely means more pirated pre-release copies of movies. No, it means there'll be some degree of fairness and equal exposure in oscar selection.

    As if the major studios don't control hollywood enough, a ban on DVD distribution would have killed most independant studios chances of even being considered for an oscar.

    Movies with limited distribution, and fewer available numbers of prints would've been shut out in favor of those which can afford advertising, and set up screenings at enough locations that a significant portion of the academy could view them.

    This move at least allows some degree of fairness. All movies have the chance of being viewed by all screeners, regardless of who distributes or produces them. It's still not perfect, but it's much better this way.

  12. Re:Do you want to know what I think about this? by falcon5768 · · Score: 4, Funny
    yeah you know what ruined Kill Bill for me

    seeing those dots every FUCKING TWO MINUTES ON THE SCREEN WHEN I JUST SPENT 20 FUCKING DOLLARS OF MY HARD EARNED MONEY FROM FIXING COMPUTERS THAT SOME SHITHEAD PRE -K'ER FUCKING STUCK GUM IN WHEN I COULD HAVE WAITED 6 MONTHS AND BOUGHT A MUCH NICER UNMOLESTED DVD.

    k done ranting

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  13. Ah, the acadamy... by TrippTDF · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There was a teacher at my college that was a member of the academy, and every Oscar season he would show all the nominees back to back in the school's screening room. He'd start showing them at 7 or so and we would not be done until like, 4 or later.

    Man, I miss college.

  14. Still unclear... by DarkHand · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's still unclear how this will affect events such as the Golden Globe awards.

    It's also still unclear how this will affect events such as downloading your favorite movie. :)

  15. Re:Oh no! by spellcheckur · · Score: 2, Informative
    Academy voters are already required to vote only in categories in which they've seen all the films. That's what the purpose of screeners (or private screenings) is for: to level the playing field.

    Michael Moore made a huge deal about it last year when he thought he wouldn't win Best Documentary. "Bowling for Columbine" was for a mainstream audience, and not enough "mainstream" voters had seen the others in his category.

    As for enforcement on the policy... no idea.

  16. Re:Do you want to know what I think about this? by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I first read about those on /. I thought "this will be another subtle little thing that I will never notice" I'm just not one of those people who picks up on all the little nuances of media quality - be it audio or visual.

    I was so wrong.

    At kill bill - there were times, like when they popped up on the blue background of a fight scene that was all about visuals, that I nearly screamed. I was so annoyed and distracted I could not stay on track with the movie. And we are talking about a basic martial arts/action film. Not something real cerebral. If this is how films will be from now on - I am not going to the theater any more.

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  17. Quentin Tarantino by A1miras · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was listening to a morning show in LA when Quentin Tarantino was on, and I thought he made an interesting point. He basically said that it hasn't been all that long that people have been receiving dvd screeners. When they asked for a copy of Pulp Fiction he was greatly insulted. He said something to the effect of "Are you kidding me? IT'S STILL IN THE F-ING THEATRES. I don't want him sitting at home doing laundry and having his kids asking him to drive them to their friends house while John Trovolta's blowing some guys head off."

    Please note that's a very rough translation from memory.

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  18. Re:Im not even really sure what the hell by uberdave · · Score: 4, Informative

    In order to win an academy award, your movie must be seen by the people who vote on such things. It was customary to send these people a "screener", in other words, a copy of the movie (usually on DVD) that they can watch at their leisure. The MPAA, in an effort to reduce theft on the high seas and kidnapping, (yes, in addition to "piracy", they are now referring to "illegally abducted films"), had put a ban on screeners. This ban meant that the only way a movie could be seen by the voting membership was in the theatres. This would make the voting unfair, since foreign films, and indie films, and "art" films rarely make it into the local movie theatres. That ban has, in part, been lifted, freeing the way for quality movies to win the awards that would otherwise have been restricted to the mind numbing blockbuster.

  19. Bad News? Why? by crucini · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The bad news is that only members of the Academy will receive them.

    Why is this bad news? Who should receive them? Why do you care about the movie industry's ritual pat-on-the-back?

    I though the only interesting aspect of this ongoing story was that the proliferation of fast internet access was forcing the industry to restrict screeners. Nothing really good or bad in that. And no, I don't care if some less mainstream film wins an Emmy or Grammy or whatever. The only outcome I'd find "good" is if the industry stops being profitable, so cultural energy flows into less centralized channels.
  20. Bad for independent films by saikou · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I, personally, think it is bad for independent films.
    When this ban was just announced, independents started to moan because their films are not widely available in local cinemas. Now keep in mind, that in most cases it is the big studios that distribute those indie movies. Studio affiliations allow them to share some glory (they're the one, who found "diamond in a rough" which receives an Oscar for... ), earn big bucks (indie film costs pennies compared to supermegablockbuster from W. Brothers ;)) and improve their return on investment.

    What would be the easiest way for them to keep the Oscars coming and money flowing? Push those movies into more cinemas in more cities. Yes, the latest alternative movie would probably still not be available on every screen in every cinema in your city, but it might be available in one or two arthouse cinemas (which generally is enough for limited audience films), and, potentially, growing to dozens of cinemas if it happens to be a hit.

    Now we're back to "release in 5 cinemas in the US, send 5,700 tapes/dvds to Academy members" scenario (with winner getting a bit more attention, and loosers never seeing the eye of the public in not-so-cosmopolitan cities).