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Zaurus SL-6000 Prototype Revealed

Gudlyf writes "The Zaurus User Group has a short piece (with pictures) on the newly revealed prototype of the Sharp Zaurus SL-6000. Among the many new features are integrated wi-fi, integrated bluetooth, a larger screen and possibly more RAM. Word is that this unit *will* appear in U.S. markets."

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  1. Alien probe by konichiwa · · Score: 4, Informative
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  2. Mod Parent Up by sakusha · · Score: 2, Informative

    That was a link to a photo of the unit, Mr. Offtopic Moderator. If you look in the same level of that directory, there are about 15 photos of the unit, showing the nice internal keyboard and even screen shots. You can even load them despite their server being slashdotted and returning a 500. So mod that parent up.

  3. Pictures by breman · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Pictures by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've mirrored the mirror of photos. :^)

      http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/bill/zaurus-sl6000 -photos/

      Enjoy!

  4. Re:Integrated Bluetooth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    BMW X5, 3- and 7-series have had that option for a while now...

  5. Re:I've never owned a PDA by superbondbond · · Score: 4, Informative
    I find it very useful. The zaurus is my third PDA, after both a PalmOS and a WindwosCE device.

    The Zaurus has all the same functionality as the others with regard to PIM applications, but I was sold on some of the unique features of the SL-5500. The integrated keyboard is a godsend when entering large amounts of text at one time. It supports most wireless cards right out of the box. both a SD and CF card slots make it very flexible, and I won't go into the whole "it runs Linux" thing, but we're thinking that anyway. On a sidenote there are a variety of modified ROMs that can be flashed onto the unit (more flexibility).

    On the down side, the battery life is somewhat disappointing (something which I'd hope will be vastly improved on the upcoming models). I have to say that my old HP Jornada had an unbelievable battery life, and it's taken some effort to get used to charging my Z so often, but overall I like it better the other PDAs that I've tried.

  6. Re:I've never owned a PDA by Psiren · · Score: 3, Informative

    I own one. I don't use it as a PDA that much, but as a network testing device it's very handy. If I have problems with switches or network points, I can just stick it in my pocket with a CF network card, and off I go. I can use ssh, nmap, tcpdump and all the other linux tools I use on my desktop machine. The screen is a little small, but it's certainly readable, and the built in keyboard is handy too. The only thing that really bugs me is the lack of seperate numeric keys, which is a pain when you're entering ip addresses. Usually I use the on screen keyboard for that.

  7. Re:Integrated Bluetooth... by 4r0g · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why don't you just use the communicator and SSH directly on it? http://www.f-secure.com/wireless/symbian/nokia-ssh .shtml

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  8. I do. by oGMo · · Score: 5, Informative
    Does anyone own a Zaurus? How useful are they really?

    I own a Zaurus SL-5500: the "original" US market unit (as opposed to the original developer's unit, the SL-5000, which was basically the same thing with half the RAM). I'll say this: you can have it... when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

    Two reasons it rocks:

    • The keyboard. The primary reason this is 10x more efficient than (most) palm devices: I can type very quickly on the build-in "hidden" keyboard. Yes, the Zaurus has something like PalmOS's Graffiti. In fact, the Z's recognizer is more sophisticated and accurate, and can learn any strokes you teach it. I still use the keyboard.
    • Linux. No, I do not use my Z as a "hacking tool" or "geek toy" primarily. I've written a test app for it or so, but that's it. (Doing so is incredibly easy, actually, but I haven't had a lot of time to spend on it.) I bought my Zaurus as a PDA, and that's what I use it for. Since I use Linux exclusively on the desktop, having it on the PDA is extremely natural, not to mention making things extremely flexible. I find syncing silly. I prefer ssh, scp, or (with the newer ROM) smbclient (which is like a braindead ftp, but it works). If I needed syncing, I would use rsync. It just fits very naturally into my work environment.

    Some people complain about the PIM apps; the quality varies. The Todo List and Address Book aren't great, but I don't use the former and the latter is sufficient. The Text Pad, however, is pretty handy, and Opera (which even renders slashdot well!) and Hancomsheet (a fully-blown spreadsheet!) are killer apps for me.

    The only reason I don't upgrade to a CL-760 is the fact I can't justify the cost: my Z works great as-is. With the work on OpenZaurus and Opie, the PIM issues are being solved, and I have little chance of being left with a "dead" platform.

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  9. Google cache? by BigFootApe · · Score: 2, Informative

    Would be helpful, as others have noticed.

    Here's a related article that gives a little more information while we wait.

  10. Re:I've never owned a PDA by swv3752 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a SL-5500 for about two months. I also have but no longer use a VR3. I also am a technical support rep for one of the major Palm OS pda manufacturers.

    The Zaurus is great. It is reasonably fast. I run the majority of the Apps off the SD card, so that slows things do a bit. If you make use the ram drive, as it is setup in the default Sharp ROM, it is very fast to run off the ram drive.

    There is a fair amount of software and one can also make use of Java apps. Besides the PIM apps, I primarily use it as an ebook read and a check book. For those that are interested The Kompany makes several apps for the zaurus including Kapital, a Quicken like program. the Zaurus Software Index should give a good idea of what is available.

    The screen is a reflective tft so it is fully usable in Bright light including sunlight. The battery will last a couple of days with normal use, much like any pocket PC device. There is also a NiCAD backup battery, though you will need to suspend the device before you lose total battery. If you do not save to the Ram drive, then everything will be restore if you lose all power as it will be saved to either internal flash, SD, of CF.

    The buttons are reconfigurable, and if held for a sec or two have another function. I have sucessfully beamed between a VR3, PEGSJ20, Visor, Ipaq, and a Palm V. I have synced on both Win2k and Mandrake Linux 9.1-9.2.

    Oh and the media player works nicely. The sound through the headphones is great. The built in speaker is a crappy piezo though. I personally prefer using the embedded XMMS, but there are several options.

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  11. Re:I've never owned a PDA by Permission+Denied · · Score: 2, Informative
    Does anyone own a Zaurus? How useful are they really?

    I have an SL-5500 and I don't find it too useful as-is.

    All the stylus-based input methods suck. The region-based letter recognizer is unusable compared to Graffiti. It will also go to the Unicode input table when you hit some key combination, which is very annoying as you can't do anything with that and you have to reset it back to another input method. The upside is that you can write your own input system. I downloaded a version of QwikScript for the Zaurus, but it's more proof-of-concept code and is unusable without some recentering features, like the real QwikScript for PalmOS. If you want to input anything, you have to pull out the keyboard, which is annoying for quick notes. They keyboard is excellent, however.

    Applications are often difficult to use. Most applications come with a workstation-like interface, with a title bar, a menu bar and an icon toolbar, which is not a very good idea when screen space is scarce. The good thing is that I've mapped the calendar button to tab, which means I can navigate the menus and most other elements using only the main buttons; sometimes I don't flip up the cover (SL-5500 has a clear cover) or pull down the keyboard to do something. About the only thing you must use the stylus for switching applications.

    There are other things wrong with the interface: for instance, most "themes" have various decorations for the scrollbar, which are not active (like Microsoft Windows, the rightmost two or three pixels are a border). When screen space is this scarce, this shouldn't happen. There's also dead space in the menus, the task bar and toolbars.

    Lots of applications sometimes get too large for the screen (for instance, when you pop up an input method), which pops up a horizontal scrollbar for scrolling left or right only a few pixels. This leaves almost no room for the application window, so these applications are unusable.

    There are plenty of examples of poor design or incorrect behaviour that you'll find yourself working around if you use a Zaurus. You don't find yourself doing this nearly as much with PalmOS.

    The thing I use a PDA for the most is keeping track of Todo lists. I usually have from 500 to 1000 Todo items and these are unmanageable with the Zaurus Todo program. The searching, sorting and organizing features suck, so I'm stuck scrolling through all the items and the program is unbearably slow with so many items. Whenever you mark an item finished, it scrolls back to the top of the list and you can't see if you've marked the correct item since there's no visual feedback when you tap the checkbox (so you have to scroll back to where the item was (if you remember its context), which takes a very long time). My previous PDA was a Palm III, and it handled this volume of todos quite well.

    Basically, I don't use my Zaurus because the software it comes with sucks. I've been meaning to write an alternative Todo list and add recentering to the QwikScript for Zaurus, but I haven't had the time.

    This, however, brings me to the advantages of the Zaurus, the first of which is that lots of software for it (like OPIE) is open source. This means I could easily fix a lot of things if I had the time or motivation, whereas I'll never be able to to fix any bugs in WinCE or PalmOS.

    The second advantage is that the APIs for programming the Zaurus are excellent. It has a version of Qt for the interface stuff, and you can use standard Linux/glibc for more low-level stuff. I wrote one application for the Zaurus for internal use and it was very easy, whereas it would have been a real pain in PalmOS or WinCE. Also, you can telnet into the zaurus when it's docked, there's a very good VNC server for the Zaurus and you can install gcc. Put together, this means you can control your Zaurus from the PC it's docked to and do all your development on the Zaurus, but using the PC's keyboard and mouse.

    The third advantage i

  12. Re:I've never owned a PDA by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Informative

    I cant speak for the 5600 but my 5500 has FANTASTIC battery life if you turn the damned backlight off.

    I use the zaurus in my day to day work, but I rely on it for my travel log/diary when on extended back-country backpacking or biking. I can use the zaurus 5500 about 2 hours a day for 3+ days without needing to recharge it from my solar charger or my modified motorola freecharge hand crank charger.

    in semi decent light the zaurus can be used without that backlight, and outside it certianly doesnt need it.

    (BTW, the Zaurus makes an awesome tent flashlight at night. but that sucks down the battery super fast.

    I've had 3 palms. 2 journadas, and the Zaurus has been the ONLY pda I have ever owned that I can use everywhere for every use i need it for, and easily write software for it.

    now if I could find a bike handlebar mount for it I'd be golden... I cant make my palm-pilot handlebar mount work for it.

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