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A Practical Approach To Shushing Your PC

An anonymous reader points to this wacky but effective-looking home-brewed answer to computer noise, consisting of a wooden case stuffed with ventilation shafts which follow a number of 180-degree turns, and implementing several ideas found at 12ghosts.de (in German). From the description on the site: "By traveling through the shafts, the noise is weakened gradually on its way through the sections. On the front the case has a door for accessing drives, the cables come out of a kind of "mouse hole" at the rear panel. A fan inside pulls an air flow through the wooden box."

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  1. Watercooling by Sir+Haxalot · · Score: 3, Interesting
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    1. Re:Watercooling by Peter+Clary · · Score: 5, Informative

      The author indicates that one of his problems is the noise from hard drives, even after decoupling them from the case using rubber mounts. Water cooling isn't going to fix that. He was trying for a solution that addresses all sources of sound, and isn't affected by upgrading or replacing the computer.

  2. Best way to have a silent PC... by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...is running Virtual PC on an iBook ;-)

  3. No need! by FrostedWheat · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've found that this always does the trick!

  4. Hmm whats that I smell burning? by bacon-kidney-pie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't like the idea of putting something which gets very hot inside a well insulated wooden box.

  5. The risk of chasing the silent PC by hanssprudel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with going after the silent PC at all cost is that the level of noise is not purely objective, and there is a strong psychological aspect to how much a sound will disturb you. A lot of people have computers that sound like F15s during take-off, but seem completely surprised when you even mention the noise to them: other people start trying to silence their computers, yet end up finding even the slightest hum annoying.

    The problem here is the way our brain work in regards to sound. If a sound is percieved as a threat, then the sound amplified subcontiously, where-as ambient sounds that are percieved as mundane are muffled. It is not difficult to understand why we have evolved that way.

    When you start trying to silence your computer, it is easy to start thinking of any sound you hear as a "failure" and thus a threat, which will make you focus on it. Thus you have people who get a silent power supply, only to suddenly find themselves driven up the wall by the CPU-fan, and then the harddisk.

    The extreme end of all this, of course, is tinnitus. I've suffered from this condition for ten years, and it is like having a noisy a computer inside your head that nothing can turn off. But at the same time, it works just the same psychologically: if you start fearing the sound, running from it, thinking about how it will be there for the rest of ones life, the condition becomes unbarable. Whereas if you can tell yourself that it really isn't that bad, and learn to just accept it, you can live almost undisturbed. (The latter is easier said then done, even when you realize it is true - myself I tend to have good periods followed by bad.) Some people even argue that tinnitus is entirely psychosomatic in this sense (I would like to believe them).

    So, just as a warning, a silent PC isn't a bad thing, but be careful about how far you take yourself down the road of fighting the noise.

    1. Re:The risk of chasing the silent PC by Knos · · Score: 5, Interesting

      At work I hardly noticed the ventilation noise. Then one day it stopped (for a few minutes) .. It was like *heaven* .. we all just realized how noisy our environment was, and it felt like a huge weight was removed from us. We basically felt just a lot better and more relaxed.

      I'm thus postulating that even if you are not noticing the noise, it doesn't mean it doesn't have any effect on you. (Regarding stress)

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    2. Re:The risk of chasing the silent PC by ballpoint · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have suffered tinnitus in the past (and I still occasionally do) but I have found out I am able to make it go away completely using the following method:

      - Imagine a very strong sound with the same frequency as the most disturbing component of your tinnitus. Concentrate. It's hard to explain, but you must keep on trying to generate this sound yourself in your head, like if you are singing or whistling but without actually doing it.

      - After a short while (20-30 seconds) the tinnitus will disappear. It will come back after a while, but weaker. Repeat.

      - After a few iterations the frequency you focused on will have gone completely, but you will notice other, weaker frequencies in your tinnitus. Do the same thing to them.

      - Eventually you will end up with a tinnitus that is more noise like, instead of composed of pure tones. This is much more bearable, but you can still do better.

      - Try to generate the same kind of noise. The noise will not be completely white, but will have 'texture'. Imagine it (think 'sssshhh'), fight back. The noise component too will rapidly fade.

      You best do this at night in bed when it's really quiet.

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    3. Re:The risk of chasing the silent PC by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was suffering from severe tinnitus for years.
      It was intolerable. To me, it seemed like a steam whistle going off 24 hours a day in my head. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't think, I couldn't go any place on earth to escape it.

      I found that other noises would distract me from it and the only way I could get to sleep was to leave the TV on by my bed. I would listen to the TV and fall asleep. If the TV was off and the room was quiet it was like the chinese water torture, all I could hear was the whistling in my ears. It was so severe that it was painful..

      Well, turns out it was the asprin I was taking.
      I was taking 15-20 asprin a day due to chronic back pain (broken back). Once I quit taking the asprin the tinnitus was just about gone away.

      However, 8 years of that did extreme damage to my hearing, now I can barely hear mid-range, like human voices but I can hear low and high frequency sounds fairly well..

      My screaming hard drives make me insane and I'm on a quest to quiet them down. I don't mind the fan noise but the high freq. of the drives is more than I can take.

      Anyway, if you are suffering tinnitus, it may be what you are ingesting!

  6. Moderate Tweaks by malverian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While I'm not the kind of person that needs a silent PC, I know there are a lot of people that require a low noise polution level in their home or work environments. Several studies show that having computers perpetually running can cause people to become aggrivated often, due in part to the noise produced by loud fans or hard drives.

    When I had my first computer, I remember every 2-3 minutes the fan would intermittantly become about 40db louder than it should be, warranting a swift kick (or 2,3,4,..) to the side or front panels of the case (and I'm not a violent man). So I can definitely sympathize with why some people find a quiet computing environment optimal.

    Sorry, little walk through nostalgia lane. But that said, I do have a few recommendations for people that don't want to build their own wooden case just to limit noise output.

    * Buy quiet fans * Buy quiet hard drives * Make sure things are mounted securely! * NEVER skimp out when buying a case

    If you follow these very simple, unspecific guidelines, you will be well on your way to a quieter computer (at least one that doesn't require you to kick its ass at regular intervals)

    I appologize if this didn't turn out coherent, I tried to proofread, but I'm a little out of it ~~

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  7. And "Ear Modding" is relatively easy... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 3, Funny

    Go to enough loud rock concerts and voila! your Ear Mod is complete, and you can't hear that fan noise (or anything below 80 dB) anymore!

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  8. Computer Noise? What? by StoneCrusher · · Score: 3, Funny
    Computer noise solved in 3 easy steps.

    1. Get the latest tunes from your faviourite record company/piracy source.
    2. Turn the volume up.
    3. Press play.

  9. Simple solution, keep your distance by iceco2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is no need for you to work next to
    your computer box, the cables/RF connecting your
    screen keyboard and mouse to your computer
    can run a great distance. I have a computer set up
    in my bedroom with the box in a diffrent room.
    with a Screen a keyboard a mouse and a USB CDRW
    drive conviniently available.
    No nutty modifications, just USB extention cords.

    Me.

  10. My Solution by binarysearch · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A much simpler solution presented itself to me some time ago: put a wall between myself and the computer.

    Well, actually, the secret here is that the wall behind my monitor is very thin wood paneling (3 or 4 mm) separating the main basement from the workroom, which isn't used much. Cables thus run from the desk in the basement through a 2" x 3" hole in the paneling under the desk and into the computer. By closing the door that separates the two rooms, I simply cannot hear the computer, even during hard drive activity and full fans blasting.

    There is, of course, one unfortunate aspect to this: I have to take about five steps to access the CD drive; this problem could be solved by buying an external drive, but I don't use the CD drive often enough for this to be a problem. The benefits, however, are twofold: no computer sounds, as previously mentioned, and also, because of the colder air in the other room and the full-power fans, I can run a 2.4 GHz P4 overclocked to 3.0 GHz at 27 degrees Celcius idle, maxing out at 35 degrees C under full load.

    Oh, yes: the hole I mentioned earlier... I named it Glory

  11. silent pc by AchmedHabib · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just worked a bit on making my pc silent, mostly for the fun of it but it was a nice bonus if I could get less noisy PC
    First I got the MSI FX5900 with the dual fans. Makes less noise than my GF3 TI500 and a lot less heat.(no more warm cabinet :)
    Then I swapped the standard Intel P4 cooler with a Zalman CNPS7000A-CU.
    I also installed a Thermaltake PSU that I already had, which lowered the noise compared to the noname PSU I had before.
    I exchanged the Western Digital harddrive with a Seagate Barracuda which has no rotation noise, unlike the WD harddrive. I have a 5" mounting frame for the HD that suspends the HD screws in some rubber thingys that I hope will lower the head movent noise that the Seagate does have.
    Finally my cabinet has room for a big fan in the front which I have installed and adjusted so it runs slowly with little noise.

    So what now makes the most noise in my PC are the fans on the Thermaltake PSU. Regarding the cooler. The CPU temp went to 35c when idle(and fan runnin 200rpm) and 50c under full load with fan running at 70%(before staring to make noise). With the original cooler the idle temp was 43c and it hit 55c(full fan speed and a lot of noise) under full load where the motherboard kicked in at fired up the fan to full speed. I don't have much expirence in this and I am a bit unsure if I have applied the correct amount of thermal paste, but I have a lot left for experimentation, so I will try different configurations. I was expecting poor air flow inside the cabinet to be the cause of the high operating temperature but I tried opening the cabinet and placed an office fan above it to make sure the air in the cabinet was room temp. and the CPU temp. readings was pretty much the same. They only got 2-3c higher when the cabinet are closed.
    Also if anyone has any suggestions for a silent harddrive, I would like to know. Of course I would like it to be fast but noise levels are the top priority.
    It has been fun playing with this, tryng to make the optimal air flow and getting the most out of as little cooling as possible. And it is now clear to me that noise reduction and a silent PC is often one of the things you don't get in a DIY PC unless you put some effort into it.

  12. Another approach... by JohnPM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I received a pair of these the other day. They are incredibly effective at blocking computer noise and also provide an effective method of silencing your boss/wife/gf without encasing them in a wooden box.

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  13. Apple did it right by JThaddeus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have you seen the Apple G5 case? A terrific setup with a enclosed area and special fan just for the CPU. When the case is closed, the fan moves at a slow speed, drawing air front to back. When opened ('cause everyone has to look inside to admire its layout) the air channel is no longer as efficient and the fan picks up speed. Why can't my Dell be made that way?

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  14. Re:Meh by varaani · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I live in an old apartment built in the 1950s, and it has a cool cabient in the kitchen which is cooled by outdoor air. I put my computer there. Of course it's only useful in the winters, but then it provides enough cool air so that I can close the cabinet door without fearing overheating. The monitor, mouse and keyboard cables are about 5m each and run neatly inside cable ducting. With the door closed the computer is much quieter than my fridge, which is not that noisy either.

  15. My world works the other way around. by Zillatron · · Score: 4, Interesting
    At work I hardly noticed the ventilation noise. Then one day it stopped (for a few minutes) .. It was like *heaven* .. we all just realized how noisy our environment was, and it felt like a huge weight was removed from us. We basically felt just a lot better and more relaxed.

    In my house we keep the fan (only the fan) running on the hvac unit 24/7/365. It does three things for us:
    1) Evens out temperatures so the hot and cold spots in the house are less pronounced.
    2) Filters out some of the ambient cat hair and dust (yes I change my filters often) and
    3) Provides white noise to cover the otherwise distracting sounds of being married to someone who keeps a differant schedule than you do.

    And let me tell you, it was CRUCIAL when we still lived in apartments to block the noise though our neighboirs walls. Do I really want to block all the noise of my computer to improve my perception of (a few years ago) my neighbour listening to "Who let the dogs out?" On repeat? There are worse things in the world than white noise.