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Dreamweaver MX, Flash MX With CrossOver Office
AstroDrabb writes "It seems that CodeWeavers' CrossOver Office 2.1 now supports Dreamweaver MX and Flash MX. So for those who have been waiting to ditch MS Windows because of these two apps, now is your chance. The announcement from CodeWeavers can be found here
and the changelog can be found here.
The list of supported applications is also getting pretty impressive."
iIs it possible to sync a ipaq using codeweavers? I tried multisync but it is still buggy.
I am stick on win4lin now, but I have to admit that cw seems impressive.
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In all fairness, that's never going to happen.
Personally I'll be happy to move when there's a viable alternative for all the applications I run. Except there already are...so I guess I'm just idle.
Anyway the point is, or at least how I read your comment, that you aren't looking to ditch Windows because it suits your needs. I am, I just need the push. This could be it.
Running Internet Explorer on Linux?
That's pretty impressive/terrifying indeed.
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you're the most horrible troll on slashdot. Not even original.
You'll be wanting to get a Mac, then. In all seriousness, you honestly believe that Windows serves you better? That not having to update your OS's security holes five times a week and constantly sorting out what e-mails are good and what are viruses doesn't count as a beneficial "thing"? What beneficial "thing" do you need?
I dunno - the list of supported apps includes a lot of "known to not work" apps in it.
call me stupid, but, if they don't work how the heck
can you say they are supported?
looks like somebody was just trying to fluff up the list so they could get attention.
ttwisi
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I don't know if this is god or bad.
It's good as it allows people to use a popular windows app in Linux x86. But it's bad because now there is less pressure on Macromedia to develop a native port or for somebody else to write a free Dreamweaver killer.
I personally would have preferred if some good programer had enhanced Mozilla composer to the same level of feature richnes as the Macromedia suite. That way not only x86 Linux users would have a content development tool but also users of other Linux platforms would have a good content development tool. Not to mention that it would also likely have run on Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, MacOS-X and windows.
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I dunno, but having a built-in Caching nameserver seems pretty useful to me. Makes web browsing faster, more convenient. One click install seems to be pretty much a linux only sort of thing, too. More directly related to the speed issue, the ability to compile everything from source means that you can do a shitload of optimizations to your system, and it'll probably run a lot faster. Plus, if you have a lot of network shares, Samba is faster, and a helluva lot nicer than windows for SMB shares. Plus, Linux has a Far nicer looking, more powerful windowing system than windows, to boot.
Marxism is the opiate of dumbasses
It's a shame that we need to use tools like CrossOver Office 2.1 to support the Lotus Notes R5 client under Linux. With a company like IBM pushing Linux, it seems to me that getting a Notes client would be the obvious choise... (Lotus Domino servers already run on Linux).
Look at how viruses spread. Then compare to flash. If one additional box had been included on the popup that asks you if you want to install flash, that says, no, and don't ask me again (instead of asking every time your mouse passes over an imbedded flash file), it wouldn't have spread so far so fast.
Flash is simply an animated gif enhancement for viewing more annoying banner ads. And for locking out users from web sites designed by designers that think it is more important to show off their flash programming skills than capturing a greater percentage of users through a more user-friendly site for the business or individual that the site is promoting.
As for Dreamweaver, regardless of the naysayers, it's bloated, not stable, and it still is not fully w3c compliant, even if you do know what you are doing. There is still non-compliant code that is inserted into source code, regardless of the settings.
For those who aren't chained to cold fusion, a better, more w3c compliant, and freer solution (as in freedom, and as in beer) is Quanta+. While wysiwyg is not in the stable release, it is in the cvs tree, and will launch when the new kde launches very shortly (check the mailing list for more updated info on the feature). And the other features are numerous, but the support for xml, and other technologies is all there. And the response from developers on the mailing list is fantastic, in features, in bug fixes, in help, and in just about everything else. I once thought I couldn't leave windows solely because of Dreamweaver, but Quanta+ enabled me to move to a much more stable and less restrictive operating system.
Sun, Adobe, and Macromedia, among other proprietary companies are the old guard. And they are the future SCO's of the tech world. The future is gpl'd source code for all applications. The rest of the world has already realized this, small businesses are catching on fast, and anyone looking to stay competitive and productive needs to admit this to themselves or they will be left behind, just like Sun, Adobe, and Macromedia.
Watch what happens to Sun in the next 18-24 months. Adobe and Macromedia will follow the same path shortly thereafter, maybe sooner.
And Oracle is not far behind...
- Linux - say, $50
- Crossover Office - $59.99
- MS-Office - $400
Option 2:- WinXP Home Edition - $120
- MS-Office - $400
is this worth a saving of $10 (~2%) ? Or even $60 (~12%) given that, whatever you say about MS, Office (and all the other applications) are highly more likely to work better on XP than any emulated environment?Maybe for some corporate customers, but I doubt it. Even as a small business owner, I wouldnt take the risk.
Actually, if I had any mod points left, I'd mod him up.
Why? Because sometimes it's necessary that someone comes and rains on one's parade, just to remind one that reality is that-a-way. Otherwise, if all posts are along the lines of "woohoo, now we emulate Mini-Notepad-Lite v0.01, so Linux is ready for the desktop", some people might actually start believing it.
The reality, however, is more complex than that.
For the vast majority of people, an OS is just a funky loader for the applications they need. The _only_ reason to have an OS at all, or to have a computer at all, is to run those apps. That's all.
Real users (including corporate users) are really never Windows fans or Linux fans. They just have needs along the lines of "but I need a spreadsheet which can run all those macros and stylesheets we already have". (Something where, incidentally, OpenOffice fails miserably.) Or "but I need something which still runs all those ActiveX and Flash games on the MSN site." Or whatever.
Having Windows or Linux or OS/2 or even SCO Unix on their machine is _not_ their goal. Being able to keep hanging around with their buddies in EverQuest or with their ActiveX Backgammon buddies on Microsoft's site, on the other hand, might just be.
Normal users also don't like to learn new stuff or experiment. "Change" almost means "trauma" for the normal user. You have to give them a damn good reason to go through it. "You sorta can run some of your old apps" isn't even starting to cut it. They can run their apps without switching, too. Now if you gave them a killer app that they _can't_ run without switching, _that_ might count.
The normal user sees no thrill in experimenting. They don't want to try a car with the pedals in completely different position every week, and sometimes with a joystick or gamepad instead of a steering wheel. Same here. Ideally they'll want to learn once where the buttons are, and then find them in the exact same position in every single app, from now until doomsday.
I.e., again, you have to give them a damn good reason to switch to another OS.
Incidentally, it's another reason why Linux is still utterly unfit for Joe Average's desktop. Each app coming with a different set of widgets, and its own completely original interface, is _not_ what Joe Average wants. You can talk about the greatness of the Bazaar model and the advantages of free experimenting with new ideas all you want, for normal users all that's just unneeded stress. But that's a whole other topic.
Incidentally, the same applies to the browser flame wars. Same as Joe Average doesn't really care about the OS, only about the apps, he also doesn't care about the browser. He cares about the web sites. The browser is just a window to see the web through. It's just a tool, like his TV. And just like his TV, he'll not switch to another one, as long as the old one works reasonably well. But that's again another topic.
Basically all I'm saying is that the Real World (TM) works by completely other rules than the code-centric "woohoo, look at what cool gimmicks we've coded" view that's rampant on Slashdot. And sometimes someone has to come and rain on your parade. Call it trolling if you will. Personally I call it a "reality check."
Of course, that's not to say that I don't admire the work of the Wine coders. Damn impressive achievement, from a coder point of view. But also far from the point where it'll get Joe Average to switch. That's all I'm saying.
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I downloaded your trial yesterday and noticed that things earlier reported to not work at all, very much did work, with little/no difficulty. I've been mighty impressed and intend to buy a license as soon as I've got the hardware to run it. (PS7 via Crossover on a PII 450 just isn't as smooth as one would like it to be.)
In fact, I'd say Fireworks is *more* important than Dreamweaver on Linux -- certainly it would be to me. Because the strength of Dreamweaver centers around two things: (1) It makes it easy to design/edit web pages when you don't know HTML and (2) It makes it easy to futz about with design before you've settled on one.
Thing is, for most Linux users, #1 isn't going to be much of an issue. And #2 is better done in a graphics program suited to it. Which is exactly what Fireworks is. It's *much* better than Photoshop, because of the wide variety of vector oriented tools, better slicing facilities, all while having a good set of raster/bitmap tools and effects as well.
I'd also imagine this wouldn't be too hard for Macromedia. Their products seem to give the impression of a unified underlying toolset/library, though I couldn't speak authoritatively to that.
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I've used Wine for many obscure applications, including: Nero, PowerDesk, LC2 Assembler/Simulator, and ePSXe. All applications worked with varying degrees of glitches, but I think if I extracted the registry entries from windows natively, most of those issues would not be present.
I'm not certain if Crossover Office this has any direct relation to the regular Wine codebase, but to me it sounds like a "Wine plus support" release.
Documentation is another story. Frank's Wine Corner is a good start though. Among other things, he documents how to get Office 2000 and Baldur's Gate working. Also, I found a howto for Photoshop, which I've heard works quite well. When I get around to it, I would like to start a similar howto site with full registry tweak details.
--Tim