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Large Scale Collaborative Editing

Posted by ryuzaki0 on from the now-this-is-gettign-interesting dept.

An anonymous reader writes "3D17.org is a website designed to allow large-scale collaborative document editing. Unlike tools like Wiki, any changes made to a 3D17 document must go-through a moderation-like voting process to see which should be applied to the document. Possible applications include allowing a large community to draft letters, emails, and faxes in a way that everyone can contribute. 3D17 even eats its own dogfood - its FAQ can be user-modified just like any other document."

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  1. What about other systems like... by CrypticSpawn · · Score: 4, Informative
    Whats the difference from that and these?

    NASA System
    Diracian

  2. Anyone tried AnnotateIt? by Wills · · Score: 2, Informative

    Has anyone tried the open-source collaborative editing/annotation tool called AnnotateIT?

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  3. interesting by stonebeat.org · · Score: 3, Informative

    A wiki with Workflow and authentication wrapped around it.
    The only thing missing is WebDAV support. With WebDAV support people could collaboratively edit the documents (spreadsheet etc) attached to the webpages.

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    1. Re:interesting by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 2, Informative
      WebDav is not the ideal solution, because it completely undermines the check-in/check-out process. It's like having a workorder system but no CVS for your code.

      Better to simply post each new revision through an upload form.

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  4. Low Abusability for Now by snoopyjd · · Score: 2, Informative

    But if the spammer makes several accounts on the system they could approve their own changes. Then again they would have to have a few different email addresses to pull this off, and they probabily don't know how to set that up.

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    1. Re:Low Abusability for Now by kisrael · · Score: 2, Informative

      But if the spammer makes several accounts on the system they could approve their own changes. Then again they would have to have a few different email addresses to pull this off, and they probabily don't know how to set that up.

      The days of spammers being idiots with mail programs is long gone. Now they're rich enough idiots that they can higher smart people to outsmart the screens. It's kind of like a virus brededing ground, they fiddle with local copies of Bayesian Filters and what not until they're slime oozes through, and is hopefully not completely unreadable.

      (Oddly, my crappy homebrew webmail is pretty attachment blind, so I get a view of some types of crap that they stick in there that a human using outlook or whatnot wouldn't see. Some literary passages are being in there, since it adds bulky content harder to filter on....)

      Anyway, I think comment boards and what not are safe for the time being because they don't share a common simple interface, but it wouldn't be a PhD level AI project that could scan blogspace, looking for likely comments boards, and things like this and Wiki.

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  5. What a waste! by i_r_sensitive · · Score: 2, Informative
    I direct the developers of this particular piece of software to:

    The Art of Unix Programming

    Specifically, rcs systems provide the same functionality, and several allready exist. So why not spend your devlopment time on an interface for Joe Six-pack, rather than re-inventing the wheel.

    Especially since we'll probably find out this wheel has a remarkably squarish shape...

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  6. Re:A serious question... by revividus · · Score: 4, Informative
    I believe that Bruce Eckel wrote Thinking in Java in a sort of middle-ground between 3D17 and your suggestion; that is he wrote it, posted it online, allowed anyone to comment on the text, and wound up incorporating many hundreds of corrections and suggestions into the final text. In a sense, it was something like 3D17, but he was the moderator of the suggestions/corrections that came in. He talks a bit about it here.

    Also, I suppose a /. thread viewed at a threshold of 3 or 4 or higher would qualify as a collaborative commentary on whatever article is being discussed.

    Of course, I realize that neither of these examples are exactly what 3D17 is suggesting, but they share elements.

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  7. Re:A serious question... by dr_canak · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sure,

    but perhaps on a much smaller scale. My dissertation was a constant collaboration between myself, my advisor, and the two research assistants who helped with the project. We used the "Track Changes" component of MS Word which worked pretty well, but was nevertheless kind of clunky.

    And we used the same MS Word "Track Changes" when we put together a couple substantial ($1,000,000+) grant proposals that involved contributions from a variety of researchers that would later go on to form the research team.

    There is no question that in both cases above, the group product was vastly superior to what the key individual could do on their own. "Track Changes" was an adequate solution for our needs, but I would have been/always am happy to try new collaborative tools like this.

    jeff

  8. **YAWN** by terrified · · Score: 4, Informative

    Drupal.

  9. Re:Goatse by keep_it_simple_stupi · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well it happened. I clicked on the link for the FAQ and BAM! There was that damned Goatse picture on the page. So here's your warning. Don't go to the FAQ!

  10. Re:A serious question... by at_18 · · Score: 4, Informative

    has anyone ever seen a document emerge from a collaboration / groupware system better than one produced by a single knowledgable person?

    Check out Wikipedia. It is a wiki encyclopedia, with more than 100,000 articles on lots of subjects. And growing at breakneck speed. A simple look to the Recent Changes page gets my head spinning. Maybe it's not a "document", but maybe it's even better.

  11. Drupal - Community Plumbing by Vertice123 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Drupal has had a book module in the core distribution for atleast a year. In drupal terms, this allows you to author any node (blog entry, forum post, image , story etc.) and attach it in relation to the book. (based on taxonomy). Each of these pages has revision control and can optionally go into the submission queue. It is possible to set it up even more extensively ... whereby you can use the groups module to give certain users different rights depending on which topic they are editing etc.

    Some Examples :

    Drupal is an incredibly well thought out content management framework that aims to be as extensible as possible. I use drupal to run several of my personal sites , and have been using drupal for more than a year now. The deanspace campaign makes use of it, aswell as several large websites such as kerneltrap and debianplanet

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