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Microsoft Launches Portable Music Player

prostoalex writes "Microsoft announced Portable Media Center, a digital music player, to be available in the second half of 2004. The announcement follows Dell's foray into portable digital music. Microsoft plans to license their software for the Media Center to third-party manufacturers as well. Samsung Electronics, Sanyo, ViewSonic, and iRiver are already on the list. The actual Microsoft-branded devices are promised to start at $350."

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  1. So... by Oen_Seneg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are we going to see a blog photo of 50-odd iPods being delivered to Redmond in the next few weeks?

  2. Far too little, far too late by GMFTatsujin · · Score: 4, Funny

    In *2004*???

    I'd been holding out on buying a MP3-enabled device until Microsoft put one out. Thank goodness the wait is almost* over!

    GMFTatsujin
    * For high values of "almost"

    1. Re:Far too little, far too late by tekiegreg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was thinking that myself, anyone else but me think the market is just a little saturated right now? What does MS offer that nobody else does in the digital music market? Better rights control for the artist? Better for them I presume but won't help sales much...somehow this digital music player will have to find a niche that helps people.

      Either that or maybe, as usual, the MS brand will make the music player sell like hotcakes (though at the same time MS isn't without it's failures aka MS Bob...*shiver*).

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    2. Re:Far too little, far too late by mcc · · Score: 5, Funny

      My first thought was that they were holding off on releasing it until the release of the X-box 2.

      My second thought, and the one I finally settled on, is that this supposed portable music player will BE the x-box 2.

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      "So we were sitting around at meeting, and someone said, hey, you know, that handheld gaming market is really heating up, what with the GBA2 and the Sony PCP coming out next year. We really ought to throw something in so that we've got a presence in that market too. So we were sitting there trying to figure out what the hypothetical R&D costs would be, but then Rob, you remember Rob, he designed the X-Box controller, he says, "hey, we're doing prototyping, and the X-Box 2 only weighs 6 pounds. that's less than a two-year-old child. Why don't we just do some rebranding, slap some buttons on the side, and release the X-box 2 as a portable game system?" And we got to thinking about it, and we realized, hey, that's a really great idea. Because look at all the things the X-Box 2 can do that the other handhelds can't. You can watch DVDs on it. You can record TV shows on it. You can do LAN play against other X-Box 2s. You can use it as a wireless way to browse the net and use MSN messenger with your friends [aslongasyouareatthemoment pluggedintoabroadbandconnection byanethernetcable]. But the kicker was when we realized, hey, you can use it as a WMA player. That's a broadside RIGHT AT the iPod. I tell you, when we release this baby, Apple's going to be running scared."

  3. Re:Does it support ogg vorbis? by bryhhh · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's about as likely as it running a Linux kernel.

  4. Nice features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It supports mp3, wma, and 0E formats. It also can play video and show pictures. I hear the visualization for IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is quite soothing.

  5. It's Out WHEN? by MBCook · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ...to be available in the second half of 2004.

    So why should I care again? By then another revision or two of the iPod will come out and it will only get better. Dell will have improved their product, so will Creative, and everyone else in the industry.

    MS may make nice hardware (their mice, keyboards, and joysticks are all great), but why should I care? Tell me next summer and I might listen, but is there ANYONE who is even thinking of buying an MP3 player that won't because of this announcement? I doubt it.

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    1. Re:It's Out WHEN? by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Funny
      They released a web browser long after everyone else already had, too. Look where we are today.

      As usual, release 1 will suck and release 2 will kill all competition after Microsoft starts implanting them in babies.

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      I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  6. Well my friend... by tekiegreg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've always had a saying, for every loss there is an opportunity. Digital music up, CD's down? Think what you can do to help Digital music along? Is there a problem there that needs solving? Is there some worthy contribution you can make? Business is chess and business is war at the same time. Or better still, time to consider a new industry to open a store in? Yes it hurts but in the end you may not only keep your house, but upgrade the house as well :-)

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    1. Re:Well my friend... by tgibbs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My business faces ruin. CD sales have dropped through the floor. People aren't buying half as many CDs as they did just a year ago.

      I'm buying more CDs than I was a year ago. But I'm not buying them from stores, I'm buying them through Amazon.com or half.com, mostly used. CDs I'd never consider at new prices, I'll readily buy used. Most stores focus on selling expensive new CDs, and the used titles are stuffed halfhazard into a bin in a corner.

  7. Re:Let me start it... by bryhhh · · Score: 3, Funny

    3. Blue screen of death in audio form?

    Have you been listening to the 'top 10' too?

  8. Future-proofing? by Carnildo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What will happen to people using these things when Microsoft deprecates the WMA format, just like they did with the AVI format?

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    "They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again incessantly without end ad infinitum" -- ibid.
  9. Re:Does it support ogg vorbis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, it only works with mp3 and their own proprietary secure format that nobody else uses. Their version for the other major platform screws up some computers so badly they won't boot and can't even be repaired. The earlier version of the management software erased some people's entire hard drives (on their own platform!) and their shoddy QA department missed this. You're probably better off with one of the other players that work with multiple portables and multiple media jukebox progr.....

    Hey, wait a second, I thought we were talking about Apple here. Never mind. :)

  10. Ut-oh... by Ianoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sounds like Windows CE all over again. Sure, it won't be any good until 2008, but after that, better throw those damned IPods away!

    I also find it slightly unbelievable that it plays MP3, a DRM-less media. I thought Microsoft assumed all customers wanted DRM (which is why it's going to feature so much in Longhorn!). Don't tell me they've actually come to their senses and realised that no-one is going to buy a device that only plays licensed music!

    1. Re:Ut-oh... by soft_guy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Jack Valenti and Hilary Rosen don't count as "lots of people" (or even "people" in my book.)

      I know lots of people who work at Microsoft and they all tell me that the company's explicitly stated (internally) plan is to fuck over Slashdotters. The reason that LongHorn has been delayed is because at every meeting some wise-ass says "I think we could fuck over people harder than this." and then they start thinking of new ways and adding them to the spec.

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  11. Beware the exchange rate by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the article:
    The iPod comes in three models, ranging from $529 to $799, depending on capacity.
    Must be tallking in Ozzie dollars. According to Apple's website it goes from $299 to $499 in US money.
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  12. Did anyone RTFA??? by christopher240240 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Including the author? This is not a piece of Microsoft hardware...

  13. All your Base... by GSVNoFixedAbode · · Score: 5, Funny

    and Treble are belong to us

    --
    "I am Heisenborg. You will probably be assimilated"
  14. Use the new music format... by khenson · · Score: 3, Funny

    Instead of pirated WMA files use the new WMD format - the U.S. government has a hard time finding them on your system...

  15. Re:Joy! by Frymaster · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Even if MS's player is crap, we'll win.

    maybe... but you might lose too. if ms can manage to leverage their desktop os monopoly to favour their music player to the exclusion of others your much-vaunted consumer-choice will actually be decreased.

    name two web browsers with a market share greater than 1%.

  16. Re:Say what you want about Microsoft... by macshit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Huh? The xbox is clunky, huge, and looks like the industrial design was done by the programmers. It was clearly thrown together quickly from stock parts.

    Apple, of course, is completely the opposite, and one of the reasons people buy things like the ipod is the great design (aesthetic, ergonomic, and otherwise).

    Somehow I think usoft's tagline is going to have to be something like `It doesn't suck too much, and -- hey -- Windows!'

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  17. Re:Say what you want about Microsoft... by loteck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Too bad we aren't talking about hardware. From the article (there's an article!?!?!):

    MICROSOFT is jumping into the portable media market, launching software for a new line of mobile devices designed to free digital content from a computer and play music, videos and photos on the go.

    Sure, they may do good hardware, but knowing it's software they are producing here, one's first thoughts should be towards whether the software will be infected with DRM, and to what extent.

  18. Innovative??? by brunes69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Care to back that up?

    From what I have seen, WMV9 is a decent codec, but it is far from "innovative". It' sjust another hash of MPEG4, and has huge attributes in common with DivX 4/5, XViD, and other MPEG4 codecs.

  19. In Other Security News Today... by morelife · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dateline August 23, 2004

    Microsoft released Service Pack 9a for its Portable Media Center music device today, much to the relief of hundreds of thousands of Donny and Marie Osmond fans whose music files were being stolen by remote Chinese Linux users using an exploit recently found in the device's Portable Media Messenger Service.

    Although Microsoft was quick to release the Security fix, they are still working hard to enlist other popluar music artists (besides Donny and Marie) into their roster of DRM'd Pay-for-Play music.

  20. Re:iPods are $299 to $499... what's with the AIT ? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nothing odd about it. The Australian author, writing for an Australian audience, refers to his own currency as 'dollars' and refers to the American currency as 'US dollars.'

    It's like in Ireland (pre-Euro days) when we talked about 'pounds' (meaning Irish pounds) and 'pounds sterling' (meaning British pounds.) In the UK they talk about 'pounds' (meaning pounds sterling) and refered to the old Irish currency as 'Irish pounds.'

    Nobody puts the nationality on their own currency in everyday speech. Where's the confusion?

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  21. Jesus Christ people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Every god damn story on /. has at least fifty "OMG who cares" posts: "Quit posting about SCO" "Quit posting about MSFT" "Quit posting about solar flares" "Quit posting about the 2.6 kernel" "Quit posting about Apple." So I went ahead and fixed the problem for all you whiny bitches out there who can't be bothered to figure out how to filter stories.

    Here's the new Slashdot, made especially for those of you who "care less and less".

  22. MS Technology by DrCode · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't you know: Portable music players haven't been invented until Microsoft comes up with one.

    (I think it was Petreley who came up with this notion.)

  23. Re:Say what you want about Microsoft... by NetJunkie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Thanks to using off the shelf parts it's as cheap as a PS2 that doesn't have a NIC or hard drive. Not to mention HDTV and real DD5.1 support. Not bad for "thrown together".

  24. Re:As a record store owner. by Izago909 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know you are just trolling but....
    First off: either you have a problem understanding teenage sarcasm or you are surrounded by idiots.

    I'm about to go off on a rant, but there is a very shot thing you should take away from this. If you hold onto a sinking ship, it's your choice. Just remember that your family will go down with you. If you really cared about saving your business, you would study your demographic and location, and you would revise your business plan. If all you can do is whine about unseen forces acting against you and spout some neo-McCarthyistic bullshit and think it's a solution, well, I guess you deserve what you bring on yourself.

    For someone so interested in good Christian morals and [your idea of] good family values in your music you have an awfully dirty mouth. You refuse to sell recodes that feature artists using profanity to stir an emotional response for some socioeconomic plight, but have no qualm throwing it in some teenagers face. For you outburst, I'm sure you have converted them to another recording industry lap dog. Assume they don't. There are a couple of likely outcomes. First: these kids never bought anything form your store, and probably never will. Second: They have bought something from your store, but won't again. As far as how either is going to help you immediately, I'm not sure.

    Then there is the issue of your demographic. You state that you are proud of your achievement of running a store devoid of profanity and non-Christian values. The thing I find amazing is that there are actually people out there who model their lifestyles off of the Cleaver's yet still swap songs. Do you think that stocking your shelves with albums that are stamped with the explicit lyric label (such as Frank Zappa's lyric-less albums) might increase or decrease the piracy rate? I can't blame you for your praise of satin's children who call themselves Metallica. It's obvious you both enjoy smacking people around instead of taking their money.

    I'm no business student; I'm an informatics student, so my sense of logic hasn't been warped yet. As far as I know, a business model is a complex thing that needs to be adapted over time to conform to market change. Sales projections are much the same. They use multiple variables that must be taken studied and individually accounted for. Your sales equation sounds like it uses constants, not variables, so the only explanation for a drop in sales is piracy. Do you take into account the changing tastes of your demographic, stiffer competition (including legal internet distribution), a stale economy and reduced disposable incomes, or the quality of and demand for your product?

    It's easy to assign blame to something that can't or won't defend itself. After all, man has been using scapegoats since the creation of religion, and probably before. The RIAA is successful in blaming pirates because they have billions of dollars over decades of time to influence laws, people's tastes, and technology. I find it odd that you use the phrase "powerful pirate lobby" when I have not heard of such a delusion. If there is a music related lobby with bottomless pockets and laws to bend, it would be the RIAA. Who else could so powerfully convince law makers that EVERY blank CD and tape will be used to pirate music, and the sole way to solve it is to tax each blank and give it to the industry.

    And for the record, Wal-Mart puts more locally owned and operated (mom and pop) stores out of business than any amount of piracy could ever hope to accomplish.

  25. Microsoft Innovates Again by mek2600 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Man, it's nice to see Microsoft coming up with some more new innovative items. Next thing they'll come out with is the first ever digital camera!

  26. The difference between Apple and Microsoft by weave · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Microsoft loves to pre-announce stuff years in advance. Apple goes to great pains to keep things secret until about the last minute so Steve can grandstand in front of the fans.

    Maybe that's why there's always so much excitement when something new comes out from Apple and when Microsoft releases something, it's no big deal.

  27. Re:Free??? by SamBaughman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    DivX has WMV beat in terms of quality, but WMV is FREE and it is more widely deployable, assuming you don't care about the non-Windows world.

    Yes, that wonderful Microsoft definition of "free", which means "bundled into the price you paid for the OS, or the price the OEM paid and passed along to you." When Microsoft released the WMV code & player for Linux (even if it is binary-only), then we can talk about free beer.

    There is a player for Mac, but it's out of date and not compatible with the latest WMV9 files.

    DivX also has WMV beat in terms of availability to run on other systems. Heaven forbid people would actually have to find & install software!

  28. RTA: Software, not Hardware by kylef · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the first sentence in the article clearly states that "Portable Media Center 2004" is a piece of software, not a new hardware device:

    MICROSOFT is jumping into the portable media market, launching software for a new line of mobile devices designed to free digital content from a computer and play music, videos and photos on the go.

    It sounds like MS is developing platform software for such devices and will license the platform to the actual hardware vendors (Dell, iRiver, SonicBlue, etc). This seems similar to the kind of relationship Microsoft has with its Smartphone manufacturers: Microsoft supplies the software, Motorola et al. supply the gadgets.

  29. Re:Blue Screen? by r_cerq · · Score: 3, Funny

    It white noises. :)