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Deconstructing the Patriot Act PR Campaign

Aaron writes "The Center for Democracy and Technology offers up an interesting point for point rebuttal to the the claims made via the 'rah-rah-esque' DOJ's website, part of the PR campaign (including Ashcroft speaking tours) to convince the public the Act is good for them. I think this Broadband Reports article also brings up a good point: among the groups attacking the Act, why do so few of them bring up Echelon? It already gives the government much of the surveillance ability they claim they're lacking, and without congressional oversight. The UN this year even launched an investigation into the use of the system to spy on UN diplomats without much fanfare."

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  1. The PATRIOT act might suck by NaCh0 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    but things would be 100 times worse if Gore or any of the democrat wannabes were in office.

  2. Re:Ben Franklin quote by cscx · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Sorry, the ACLU is too busy making sure the freedoms of pedophile groups isn't suppressed. I can't make shit like this up.

  3. Re:Even if you didn't do anything... by ChaoticLimbs · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Government security agencies are wary of (hostile to) Greenpeace because in international waters, Greenpeace practices piracy. Here in the US, you only see the "peace" side of Greenpeace. Let me assure you that at sea, they carry machine guns and the only time you see unarmed Greenies in the water is on a dinghy or zodiac boat, in a harbor, and in full view of the press (after calling the press and inviting them). I know you want to support protecting the environment, but internationally, Greenpeace will KILL HUMAN BEINGS to save trees and dolphins.

    For this reason, plus the RABID anti-American slant that Greenpeace has, donating to them while simultaneously sucking at the government teat is ill-advised (and conflicted).

  4. This is a lie, Bush has been setting things up by public_class_name_ex · · Score: 0, Flamebait


    He's already done a bunch of other stuff like sell out the identity of US agents... which is paramount to an act of terrorism.

    He's also lied and [not very] secretly arranged things for his buddies to profit from current atrocities.

    He's even lied about who hung a damn banner on a ship proclaiming "mission accomplished".

    I think he's one of the worst possible people you'd want there. It's not even that he's evil, he's just a dumb child and hangs out with the bad seeds who tell him what to do.

  5. Re:How about one of the most compelling arguments by Crashmarik · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    That ones right up there with bashing columbus because he didn't consider the effect he would have on indigenous peoples.

    As much as it may be thought despicable now, compare it against how any other country in WWII treated enemy aliens.

    Would you be upset with the Jewish veterans of WWI that decided to beat the crap out the American Nazi party ?

  6. Re:Bush Administration is not human. by drinkypoo · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I don't get it either, where the hell is it from?

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"