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Trouble Getting to SpamCop?

geekwench writes "SpamCop was apparently the victim of a recent DoS attack. A false complaint to their domain registrar led to all primary DNS information being pulled. The problem is now fixed, but there may still be access issues for the next couple of days as ISPs clear the old DNS information out of their caches. You can read about it here and here. (Sounds to me as if SpamCop is proving to be a good-sized thorn in the sides of a number of spammers.)"

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  1. Tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because of caching, sometimes some things resolve and some don't... so, if www.spamcop.net doesn't work, try spamcop.net minus the www. Of course, if your mail server can't resolve their mail server properly, then submitted spam is a much bigger pain.

    1. Re:Tip by Nintendork · · Score: 2, Informative
      Because of caching, sometimes some things resolve and some don't... so, if www.spamcop.net doesn't work, try spamcop.net minus the www. Of course, if your mail server can't resolve their mail server properly, then submitted spam is a much bigger pain.

      The problem isn't outdated or incorrect information in the spamcop.net zone. The problem is the information on the .net zone. This means that everything under spamcop.net (Including mail records) cannot resolve until the .net servers are updated (Already done) and the SOA information for spamcop.net gets refreshed at your ISPs DNS servers (Sunday night at the latest). Like Julian said, the Time to Live for the SOA record is two days.

      -Lucas

    2. Re:Tip by cft · · Score: 3, Informative

      or just add one of their nameservers to /etc/resolv.conf

      ns1-117.akam.net
      ns1-11.akam.net
      ns1-109.akam.ne t
      asia3.akam.net
      ns1-93.akam.net
      ns1-90.akam.ne t
      use1.akam.net
      ns1-73.akam.net

  2. Re:How effective is SpamCop? by m0i · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, SpamCop now uses SpamAssassin as well as its own blocklist. And I use it mainly for one-click accurate reporting through the 'held' web interface. You are right that most abuse desks don't care about SpamCop reports, but it's still worth it for the remaining doing their job.
    Regarding Joker registrar policy wrt to validation procedures, I suppose that the fact that SpamCop goes away tells it all.

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  3. Re:2004 promises to be interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    I'm sure the grandparent is reffering to the stats from the spamhaus ROKSO page.

    spamhaus.org seems to be down. Probably being DDOS'd as well.

    The google cache of the page is here but it's loading pretty slowly, so I'm not sure how much of the page info is actualy cached.

    Not all 200 names on the list are from the USA, but American spammers do seem to be a large majority.

  4. W32/Mimail.e@mm attacking spamcop also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Network Associates is reporting an E variant that just came out of W32/Mimail that attacks the following domains:

    spews.org
    spamhaus.org
    spamcop.net
    www.spews. org
    www.spamhaus.org
    www.spamcop.net

    Here is the link to the description:

    Link to W32/Mimail.e@mm description

    This might explain some of the other issues folks mentioned above like getting to Spamhaus, etc... I saw a few instances of W32/Mimail.c@mm on Friday in my day job. That one launched DoS against darkprofits.net besides sending itself to everyone in an address book.

    bbh

  5. New email worm that DDoS's Spamcop/SPEWS/Spamhaus by wayne · · Score: 3, Informative
    I saw this mentioned on the spamcop news group.

    There is a new email worm called W32/Mimail-E that is designed to create a distributed denial of service attack on the anti-spam websites of spamcop, SPEWS, and spamhause. See: sophos write-up.

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  6. Re:How effective is SpamCop? -- We Love It! by gizmonic · · Score: 2, Informative

    I work for an ISP and honestly, we love SpamCop. Our abuse mail gets a lot of complaints. We can take action on maybe 2% of them, because people simply don't give us enough information. "Stop sending me spam" does nothing for us, nor do the 75% of people who forward the spam and do not inlcude the headers. (Honestly, how can so many people still not know to include full headers when reporting spam?)

    The SpamCop reports have ALL the information we need (timestamps with time zone are crucial) to track down a spammer and get them off our network. The other nice thing is that once all the SpamCop complaints are handled, we usually find that the few regular spam reports we can track were about the same people we just got done banning due to the SpamCop reports.

    So, at least for us, SpamCop is very effective. Granted that's just one ISP, but there ya go.

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  7. Spamcop works by Blackknight · · Score: 2, Informative

    Spamcop is great if the ISP or web host actually responds to the complaints. I work for a web hosting company and we investigate every complaint that comes in. If it's legit the account gets terminated.

    I still think by the time spamcop gets to us it's too late though. You can't unsend spam, once it's out it's out. They'll just get a different account on another host. What we need is some kind of filtering on the incoming and outgoing sides. Or the world could just switch to something besides Outlook, which helps these viruses and worms propagate.

  8. Re:Funny, but evil by H310iSe · · Score: 5, Informative

    "A false complaint to their domain registrar led to all primary DNS information being pulled."

    That's funny because a false complaint against us by spamcop led to all our servers being off the net for a day last year. They did ZERO research on the complaint and took it straight to our ISP (rather than trying to contact us by our abundant and up-to-date contact info available in our emails and on our websites). Their conduct was beyond reckless, it was vicious.

    I'm all for good anti-spam but those guys can bite me. Serves them right IMHO.

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  9. Spambayes by kenyob · · Score: 2, Informative

    Who needs SpamCop...
    Just use <A href="http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/">SpamBayes </A>.Its free, open source, and works almost as well as my Mailblocks account...