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Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence

timbloid writes "I spotted on Ain't it cool news that Mamoru Oshii's new anime Innocence Ghost In The Shell 2's website is now open! The trailer is beautiful! But I can't help thinking a translated version is some time off from the 2004 Japanese release... Maybe it would be faster for me to learn Japanese?"

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  1. Ghost is great non anime lovers. by Godeke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I love the original ghost because it convinces many who didn't think they would like anime that it isn't "just a cartoon". Although today anime is becoming "cool", when I was in high school it was pretty fringe. When ghost came out, I showed it to quite a few people who didn't know what anime was, and most had a much better appreciation for the fact that "cartoons" could tell a compelling story.

    Of course, it isn't for the squeamish...

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    1. Re:Ghost is great non anime lovers. by Godeke · · Score: 5, Informative

      Anime allows storytellers to explore sci-fi and fantasy genres without the budget breaking special effects, so they are common to see those genres expressed. But that isn't all that is done in the anime tradition. At the other end of the scale you can find sitcoms and love stories. Studio Ghibli is another great entry point into the style:

      http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/films/

      Just about anything here is good, but Kiki's Delivery Service and Spirited Away are two of my favorites. Kiki's has fantasy only insomuch as Kiki is a witch, but the storyline (something which American entertainment has forgotten about) is one of coming to terms with oneself.

      Grave of the Fireflies is one of the most heart wrenching stories ever told in any style.

      As for the overweight white guys: they are called otaku (fanboy) and are a part, but not the whole, of those who love the style. I'm in my mid thirties, married with a son, own my own company, am part owner of another and rock climb so I don't *get* fat. Not all those who watch anime are otaku.

      To finally answer your question: animation allows for stories that would be difficult to tell in another way without breaking a budget. It also allows for artistic expression and styles that can't be captured with a camera. If American animators were blinded by the "for children only" mindset, amazing stories could be told here as well.

      The Simpsons and the other "adult" cartooning have raised the bar a hair, but it only raises it to "sitcom" from "child humor". I would love to see an home grown cartoon that explored storylines written as well as those in good anime. (And no, Heavy Metal's psuedo porn doesn't count).

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  2. Learning Japanese by ajakk · · Score: 5, Funny

    A much better site for information on learning Japanese is at U. Mass.

    1. Re:Learning Japanese by Haeleth · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not in my experience -- Japanese (under 35, anyway) are huge!

      That's because they're all wearing powered combat armour. The people inside are actually quite small.

  3. Huh? by 44BSD · · Score: 5, Funny

    I never heard of this "Ghost in the" shell.

    For me, you still can't beat Bourne.

  4. Re:Translations... by Psx29 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I happen to think there are some movies which can be enjoyed without knowing a single word of dialog. Ghost in the shell is not one of these. The questions it poses about life and what it means to be human are something that you really need to hear and understand to enjoy.

  5. Trailer Bit Torrent Link by AIX-Hood · · Score: 5, Informative