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Legal US Music Downloads Beat CD Single Sales

Kelly McNeill writes "I've received a lot of feedback from osViews readers (my site) asking about the music download survey that we've been conducting over the past few weeks, saying that osViews readership must be skewed in one particular direction to get the results we did. The primary reason given is not necessarily the fact that iTunes has significantly surpassed its competitors, but that the results show legal digital downloads surpassing even CD sales. I must admit that even I thought this a was a bit peculiar, but now, according to a BBC World news report, it seems the survey is correct. Digital downloads have surpassed even physical CD sales!" Update: 11/04 23:35 GMT by S : The BBC story refers to CD single sales, so Mr.McNeill maybe not be quite as right as he thinks, sadly.

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  1. it still has DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Troll

    every content provider is looking to incorporate more and more DRM as the quality, cost, and ease of creation of copies improves.

    the music industry doesn't care about people copying songs off the radio. it didn't even really get its panties in a bunch when CD-Rs first hit the market. or when mp3s hit the ftp servers. It went ballistic when anyone could download a single application and instantly find a never ending stream of perceptibility loss-less perfect digital copies.

    likewise with the MPAA and DVD encryption, likewise with the new Cable Set-top standard.

    They want to cut out MythTV, Tivo, splitters, H-cards, and cable descramblers. It's becoming too easy to get at the current data, so they want a change.

    with the analog system working (fairly) well as is, why else would they create a new 'standard' for the digital system? It certainly isn't in the interest of the consumer.

    Why doesn't Sony support the Blu-Ray with its stock rewritable feature?
    Why did Disney/Circuit City/et al try to push (the bad) Divx onto the market in the first place?

    It isn't because consumers are clamoring for less control or cheaper movies.

    The time is coming when content producers are going to have to realize that their profits will no longer come from format-updates (repurchasing 8-tracks as CDs, VHS classics as DVDs, etc), and will -not- come from service-style access to data. Classic TV advertising may even have to give way to pure product-placement campaigns.

    Cable will realize that a move to pay-per-channel is the way to support content without advertising in our new time-shifted digital reality. Some people -will- pay $1/mo for TLC. Home Depot will still pay for product placements in Trading Spaces. Maybe the Super-station will go away - but the cable companies, and popular channels, need not.

    the film industry has already shown that the theatre experience is not losing out to cheap cam copies. they've learned that feature-rich dvds or dirt-cheap dvds are preferred to the customer over hacked-together recompressed copies on filesharing networks.

    The record companies will need to realize that to win with digital music requires providing the best quality, with the least hassle. They will need to realize that they must beat file-sharing on features. People will give up hunting around for a good (not mislabeled)256kbps rip of Britney's newest song - if they know they can just hit iTunes or its ilk and cough up $1.

    Fair Use needs to win out. These purported 'losses' from file-sharing need to be revealed to be grossly overestimated fabrications. (A PSA from a supposed union set painter claiming that file sharing is killing the movie industry, and threatening his job - airing during it's highest grossing year of all time is particularly tactless)

    DRM is the tool of the content dinosaur. If they concentrated on actual content piracy rings - where big money is being made off black-market copies, and abandoned their fruitless DRM research - their profits could be higher than ever.

    But such is not the reaction of anti-competitive cabals. Being forced to -compete- is not what they do. Suing, threatening, bullying, bribing - these are the blunt instruments they wield instead of the precise tools of innovation, imagination and competition.

    So in the meantime - expect every advance to carry DRM in the fine print.

    propz to GNAA

    1. Re:it still has DRM by Null_Packet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "They want to cut out MythTV, Tivo, splitters, H-cards, and cable descramblers. It's becoming too easy to get at the current data, so they want a change."

      I think you're way off for comparing pirate-style technologies along with legitimate ones. H-Cards and cable box descramblers were never about getting access to data or information you had purchased. Anything relating in the defense of H-Cards and Descramblers is legaleze to justify theft. Tivo, MythTV, splitters, etc are making use of media/information that has been legitimately purchased.

      DRM as a way to control music is entirely justified. Many people seem to be ok with some level of DRM, but I haven't met a person that trusts microsoft to do it.

      As far as 'fair use' is concerned, Apple seems to have taken a decent approach- you can burn endless cd's of AAC-encoded itunes-store songs, but you can only have it active on 3 pc's at a time. That sounds pretty flexible to me.

      Show me someone who rants about fair use, and I will show you someone who 99.9% of the time owns a ps2 hacked to play illegal copies, has gigs of non-fair use mp3's, or watches copied dvd's from friends.

  2. whats the surprise? by Suppafly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's the surprise? People with any kind of feel for the pulse of technology have known for a long time that once digital sales of music finally started to not totally suck, they'd catch on.

    1. Re:whats the surprise? by rogerwong · · Score: 2, Funny

      Right on. It's all about the convenience of not waving around fragile little plastic discs.

      I hate CDs and DVDs so much that I built an IDE RAID-5 1 TB media library server for my home. I rip the DVD/CDs and free myself from the yoke of physical media.

    2. Re:whats the surprise? by damiam · · Score: 2, Funny

      So instead of CDs you put yourself under the yoke of a terabyte RAID. If that doesn't qualify as some major physical media, I don't know what does.

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  3. LP to CD to file by apoplectic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I guess album art is really dead? That's too bad as it is an artform in of itself.

    1. Re:LP to CD to file by RatBastard · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Album art died when CDs took over. The days of that glorious 12" record jacket and the detailed artwork it could hold have been gone for 15 years.

      As much as the idea sucks, it's a fact of life that things change.

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  4. I think I speak for everyone when I say.... by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...Well no SHIT sherlock!

    Of course the number of units sold online is going to surpass the number of physical units sold. You have a higher availability of product, lower cost, and a greater transport for them that the consumer loves.

    Of course, I am above saying I told you so to people, so I will avoid that in this case towards the RIAA. However, I would like to rub their noses in it, literally, so if someone could work that out, that'd be great.

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  5. very misleading headline by jcruelty · · Score: 5, Informative

    they're not talking about all cd sales, just cd singles vs online singles. DUH! hardly anybody buys cd singles anymore. it says nothing about people buying full cds vs online albums.

    1. Re:very misleading headline by wankledot · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Thank you for pointing this out. I'm tired of this story being posted without the "CD Singles" verbage. Downloads aren't even CLOSE to touching album sales people. Last time I did the math, if Apple meets their 100M song goal for the year, that will be something like 1% of all record sales in the US. Quite a lot, but no where near "more than physical CDs"

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    2. Re:very misleading headline by helix400 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Especially for someone who was so skeptical, yet found an article that "proved" his point. I guess he didn't bother to read even 4 paragraphs down to find these choice quote:

      "Some 7.7 million tracks were bought and downloaded since the end of June - compared with four million CD singles sold, Billboard magazine reported. But some say online and CD single sales cannot be compared because so few singles are now released on CD."

  6. Just Singles by pavon · · Score: 5, Informative

    For the lazy, non-RTFA'ers, this is only compared to CD singles, not CD sales in general. So not that surprizing seeing as how small a market that is and how expensive singles are.

    1. Re:Just Singles by jc42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, yeah, but people have been saying for years that most CDs have only one or sometimes two songs that most purchasers want. So in most caseds, a single-tune download has literally replaced a single CD sale.

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    2. Re:Just Singles by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Not only that, but consider this:
      Some 7.7 million tracks were bought and downloaded since the end of June - compared with four million CD singles sold, Billboard magazine reported.

      If I recall correctly, CD singles usually are bundled with a few other miscellaneous tracks, AND cost more than a dollar to purchase. Suppose a CD single costs 2$. In which case the record companies have made 7.7 million dollars off of legit downloading (99 cents a pop), and eight million dollars off of CD singles.

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    3. Re:Just Singles by RatBastard · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Singles used to be a HUGE market. Bands used to release a stream of singles before releasing an album, and many times those singles were not even on the album that would later come out. If you missed the single, you missed the boat. Of, course, this was back in the day of the 45RPM record.

      I used to buy a fair number of singles on 45, especially from bands I otherwise didn't really care for. And for about a dollar a pop, it wasn't bad deal. When CDs killed off LPs and 45's, the market for singles pretty much died for a while. At least until they convinced kids to fork out $4.00 - $6.00 a piece for the little blighters.

      The market for singles died because the record companies refused to take a fair price for songs on CD. And sales forces were focused on the "album", which is odd since most albums of recent music are made up of a collection of seemingly random songs that have no central theme to hold them together. They might as well be collections of singles.

      I think that buying only what you want online is going to bring back the era of the single. I know I've spent more money on music since iTunes for Windows came out than I have for the last year. And why? Because I can buy only the one song I like buy that band I otherwise don't care for. And for a dollar a pop, that's not bad.

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  7. Doing Well by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Convenience is really the key for online music stores. Browsing from your home at all hours of day and night, previewing a track - something you may not be able to do where you buy music - the ability to "impulse buy" a song you just heard or remembered, and the instant gratification of having it available only a few moments after you make your decision (unless you are on a slow connection) are big factors. The "what other people purchased" up-sell can be a way to broaden your music library as well.

    As the BBC article mentions, it's not a truly fair comparison because it's all tracks sold online vs. only singles. I purchased a number of my tracks as part of an album, and I don't often buy CD singles, either (never, actually). So, it would be nice if we could compare full album sales instead of the unbalance "tracks vs. singles".

    Still, it is nice to see online music doing well - IMHO, anyway. DRM, as always, will remain a key issue here.

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  8. Could this be the future? by dauvis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Of course, these reports will be meaningless to the music execs. Instead of acknowledging that the albums with only or two decent songs are on the way out, they'll continue to blame piracy for the decline of CD sales. I recently signed on with iTunes (for Windows) and I'm enjoying it. iTunes has (what I consider to be) reasonable use policies. I'm not about to give up my perfectly working MP3 player so I was wanting a service that will allow me to make MP3s using reasonable steps. Already, I've purchased more music that I have the past couple of years. And get this... they're all songs that I like; none of the filler crap.

    Eventually, they'll "get it" and realize that their business model is changing and you'll see more services like iTunes.

  9. Ogg Vorbis by Sp4c3+C4d3t · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd buy if it was in .ogg format, but it's not. The problem with these download services is that they're using proprietary formats... like AAC for Apple's, and MS' will definitely use WMA. We should AT LEAST have the option of MP3 if we can't have ogg.

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    1. Re:Ogg Vorbis by c0d3h4x0r · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're exactly correct... but it will never happen. These online music services are only thriving because they guarantee the record companies and musicians some level of distribution control via DRM (Digital Rape Mechanism). Since Ogg and any other DRM-less format would force the suppliers to completely give up distribution control, they are totally dead-set against it.

      Of course, people keep forgetting that if you can hear it, you can free it. You can rip high-quality copies from any audio device with a headphone jack using the Line-In jack on your sound card, and compress them to a restriction-free format such as Ogg. If more people started doing this, I think then (and only then) would the "fight evil corporate control" movement actually be making real progress.

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  10. No Repair kits by wud · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You cant scratch an Mp3

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  11. Re:But.. by Tumbleweed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It depends on the disc as to whether it's a waste of money or not. Some artists release otherwise-unreleased songs only onto a CD single. You can get a lot of great & obscure music this way, if you're a big fan of a particular artist.

    And sometimes those remixes can be way better than the original. It all depends.

  12. Same thing occured to the pr0n industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    A saw an article a while ago that noted sales of online porn (mostly through adult websites) surpassed that of porn sold through traditional venues (e.g. adult video & books sellers). And that was a few years ago. The porn industry adapted to the new technology seemlessly, while making more money than ever.

    Regardless of your opinions of the porn industry (which often does things as shady as the RIAA), at least they know an opportunity when they see it. The RIAA refuses to get a new business model, unless you consider suing your customers into a submission a business model.

  13. Just imagine how much money the RIAA.... by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... would have made if this service was out in 1999.

    Granted, legal digital music has been successful, but how many people out there still hate the RIAA?
    To all of those who have called music downloaders thieves, all I can say is I told you so. People are basically honest, and they're willing to pay for good service.

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  14. Re:Note to RIAA by wankledot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oh they got the note... and they're still collecting money for every song that Apple sells.

    We can laugh at them for not jumping on the bandwagon sooner, but they're getting the last laugh, and still getting paid.

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  15. Hoooorrrraaaayyyy! by Pieroxy · · Score: 5, Funny

    So that's it:

    1. Find what the customers want
    2. sell it to them
    3. Profit!!!

    At last, the end of the 1.2.3. jokes. We found the missing part!!!!

    1. Re:Hoooorrrraaaayyyy! by Joey7F · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wow that was alot better than the previous RIAA model of

      1. Bully 12 year girls
      2. ????
      3. Profit!!!

      my working guess was "2. short own stock while bad publicity stacks up"

      --Joey

    2. Re:Hoooorrrraaaayyyy! by Banjonardo · · Score: 3, Funny
      We can combine:

      1. Bully 12 year old girls

      2. Sell them!

      3. Profit!!!

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  16. Re:Typical /. response: by jc42 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, most artists are giving you their work for free. All that money you pay goes to the distributors; none of it reaches the artists.

    Recording industry contracts pretty much guarantee that the artist gets nothing (and in fact usually ends up in debt) until at least 1.5 million CDs are sold. For new groups, the crossover point is often much higher, and is hardly ever reached.

    But this is hardly news in this forum. Anyone reading /. for more than a month or so should have seen the data by now.

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  17. Re:Note to RIAA by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "but they're getting the last laugh, and still getting paid."

    No they're not. Part of what sparked this is that the quality of music has gone down. They were making money by selling albums at a premium with only 2-3 songs the listener actually wants to have. That translates to roughly $5 a song. Now it's what, $1 a song? To put it another way, people will spend $10 instead of spending $45.

    Over time, it might turn into better revenue, as more and more artists will have less and less pressure to create a whole album. But in the short term, the RIAA risks a huge chunk of their margins.

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  18. Re:Note to RIAA by Aero+Leviathan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You know, it's not like iTunes is doings its thing without going through the RIAA. iTunes offers the service it does because the RIAA allows it. The RIAA is not fighting paid digital downloads. On the contrary, with all the new services springing up, it would seem that they're supporting it.

    Oh, I forgot. They're one of those groups Slashdot doesn't like. Any excuse to bash them, however illogical, right?

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  19. Historical 45 rpm data by dbrower · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This page suggests that 45 rpm singles were going out at a rate of 1 million/month from the single vendor (RCA) six months after the format was introduced. People needed to buy new players, and the population was lower than today; I don't have any volume figures for 78rpm single volume.

    The question I'm wondering is: how many 45 rpm singles were being sold at the height of their popularity, into what population?

    We are guessing that 7.7M + 4M/month is way low compared to the peak, which I might guess was 10-15 million/month for a smaller population.

    -dB

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  20. I agree by whittrash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The music industry is finally catching on. They need to give people rights, not restrictions. That is what works. Why should I pay $16 for an album I can't play on my work computer. What is the point of that. I can download whatever I want for free and play it on my work computer or at home and then burn them to disk....hmmmmm, this isn't rocket science. $.99 is worth the convenience for a song I really want, but the price must come down if they expect me to buy songs to hear them once and throw them in the trash. I will pay $.25 for mediocrity. But they will have to pay me listen to some of their crap.

    1. Re:I agree by Pieroxy · · Score: 2, Funny

      The music industry is finally catching on.
      They have always been on top of things!!! What are you talking about?

      They need to give people rights, not restrictions.
      How do you want to control people this way??? They are not going to rely on trust, are they? Come on, this is not serious

      That is what works.
      Selling restrictions sounded more fun!

      Why should I pay $16 for an album I can't play on my work computer. What is the point of that.
      Well, because they want you to? Come on, these people would declare themselves as a charity if they could. Don't get mistaken by big cigars and leather seats, these people are really poor. They work for the good of humanity. You should owe them money because you exist, because they produce music, for the benefit of all.

      I can download whatever I want for free and play it on my work computer or at home and then burn them to disk....hmmmmm, this isn't rocket science.
      First, if you do so, you are a thief. A pirate. A terrorist. They could potentially put you in jail forever without trial (based on the patriot act) if they only suspected you on doing such a thing. Sure, the recent lawsuits are just a start.
      Second, your term "rocket" implies a fast movement that they are certainly unable to achieve. We would know by now...

      $.99 is worth the convenience for a song I really want, but the price must come down if they expect me to buy songs to hear them once and throw them in the trash.
      Do you know throwing away a piece of art that they sell could be considered as a felony? Watch your words!

      I will pay $.25 for mediocrity.
      Well, good for them!!!!

      But they will have to pay me listen to some of their crap.
      Don't count on it. Have you ever seen a charity giving money away?

  21. Re:But.. by cens0r · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I bought a CD single last week. It was 3.99. It contained a remix of the song, the album version of the song. A remix of another song on the album. And a previously unreleased cover song. So, I get 4 songs for $4. Sounds like the iTMS. :)

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  22. maybe the album is dead too by whittrash · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you only buy songs one at a time, and each song must stand on its own, unless they bundle them somehow, you will only rarely buy full albums. Why buy 22 songs when you only want 3 from that album. You will more likely have a folder with an artists name on it, and organize songs that way.

    1. Re:maybe the album is dead too by unother · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What's the issue with this?

      Remember, once upon a time, music was more single-driven than album-driven. Up until the mid-60s, it was common for people to buy singles they liked, rather than albums. Albums were for soundtracks, or for artistic purposes (full-length tone poems): in pop, the single was king, and 45s held the throne.

      It wasn't until the late 60s when a lot of the popular acts decided they preferred doing full concept albums rather than single catch-alls (likesay the Beatles) that albums assumed predominance.

      That singles are again assuming pre-dominance shows how pimped-out the album concept became. Your average album pre-CD was 35-40 min. of music, because that was as much as could be safely pressed, without destroying the sound quality, on vinyl. With CDs came 72 minutes, and a pressure to fill that space. The old B-sides, which made singles worth purchasing, became the filler, along with alternate/radio edits, etc.

      Now the cycle has come full, and singles are resuming pre-dominance as so many acts shamelessly abused the album format with filler. The industry has adapted, will adapt.

  23. How I knew this couldn't be true by ryantate · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I didn't even need to click. I've been doing the math to figure how big a deal this iTunes thing is (not big, at least not yet).

    Here are the numbers. The U.S. record industry sold $12.6 billion worldwide in various formats (almost all CDs) in 2002. This is off a bit from the peak $14.6 billion in 1999. It's important to keep in mind that, even at those levels, we're talking about nine weeks revenue for IBM.

    Assuming the Windows side of iTunes Music Store continues to sell at the initial rate of 1 million songs/$1 million revenue in the first 3.5 days, that's only about $104 million per year. The Mac side sold $13 million in tunes in the first six months, so we'll put that side at $26 million per year.

    That's $130 million per year for all iTMS. Even if the store doubles its sales, and then the other stores collectively match its sales, you'd be talking about total online sales of $520 million per year, still a drop in the bucket.

    The growth will need to get exponential before there is any comparison with offline music sales. I'm not saying it won't happen, but that's what we're talking about, and that's how I instantly new the hed on the posting was wrong.

  24. the poor artists by thanjee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is good that people are now paying for the music they download, but a lot of people don't understand that the artists get very little of this money. Generally a band will only get 10% - $1 for the entire album downloaded, whereas the record company gets $9 for each album downloaded.

    In the CD world, 10% ($2) was a good deal for the band because the record companies had to pay for manufacturing, cases, booklets, shipping and publicity, which is quite costly. But now they don't have to do anything - it is pure profit for the record companies, so they should be passing on a higher percentage of the profit to the bands.

    Until They change how much the bands get payed for digital downloads I will stick to buying CDs. Plus I like getting booklets :)

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  25. Why "sadly" by geekee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The BBC story refers to CD single sales, so Mr.McNeill maybe not be quite as right as he thinks, sadly."

    Who cares which is outselling the other, as long as the consumer has the option to buy either.

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