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On Selling Western PC Games In Japan

Thanks to GameSpot for their interview with the Japanese PC game publisher Cyberfront, discussing what it takes for a Western PC game to sell in console-dominated Japan. The company's best-sellers are Civilization III, which boasts "good name recognition", and takes advantage of "the... popular simulation genre" in Japan, and interestingly, SWAT III - apparently, "the tactical shooter struck a chord among this particular group: Japan's model firearm subculture." The company's founders argue that the first-person shooter genre can still be popular in Japan, pointing out that "Medal of Honor for PS2 sold 200,000 copies." However, the PC market is still relatively small, so "...a title that sells 10,000 copies in Japan is considered a hit."

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  1. Similarities and Differences by Code+Dark · · Score: 1

    It seems that across cultures we have alot of differences (obviously), but despite the reasons for it, no one can resist a good shoot-em-up.

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  2. "the... popular simulation genre" by KNicolson · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Unfortunately, the most popular facets of the simulation genre in Japan are those of "rapist", "pedophile", and "incestual pedophile rapist", judging by Something Awful's review pages.

    On a serious note, they say:

    If a game like Dragon Quest VIII came out on PC, they could easily sell 4 or 5 million copies, but there's just no incentive for Square Enix to move away from consoles

    but surely there's not much bigger an incentive than 4 or 5 million sales for a port?

    1. Re:"the... popular simulation genre" by JExtine · · Score: 1

      Final Fantasy 7 and 8 have been ported to PC, as well as 11. I'm not sure if 7 and 8 were released on PC in Japan or not...

    2. Re:"the... popular simulation genre" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Unfortunately, the most popular facets of the simulation genre in Japan are those of "rapist", "pedophile", and "incestual pedophile rapist", judging by Something Awful's review pages.
      OMG ROFL!!!!!!!!! Also, tentacle rape and used panties vending machines!!!! THEY SO CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!
    3. Re:"the... popular simulation genre" by Tisephone · · Score: 1

      7 was. Interestingly enough... if I remember correctly, they also released the American version translated back into Japanese as "Final Fantasy 7 International Edition". I'm not sure why.

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    4. Re:"the... popular simulation genre" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same reason they rerelease almost every American Final Fantasy in Japan: because they add things to the U.S. versions, Japanese ask for the same features, and they are willing to pay for them. You have a Japanese email account; haven't you noticed this phenomenon on your own?

      Happened to Shenmue and a bunch of others too. But whereas Japanese gamers are willing to spend to get games that they already have, but with additional features, Americans aren't the same way. Look at how the mighty goodness of Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution is a $20 game here, or how the enhanced version of Silent Hill 2 was released as a Greatest Hits title. That's why America never got disc 4 of Final Fantasy 7, as included in FF7I. (The PC version's installer disc doesn't count.)

      On a side note, have you seen many copies of the Japanese FF7PC release? I'd like to get hold of one.

  3. Japan's model firearm subculture by heldlikesound · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In case people are unfamiliar with this "subculture" they are referring to the sport/hobby of Airsoft, which are exact replicas of real firearms, accurate to every detail, including weight. These guns shoot plastic BB's, and are either spring loaded, or, on the more expensive models, gas-powered.

    Aside from just collecting this guns, there are people that actually play with them ala paintball guns, with teams and everything (think real-life Counterstrike).

    When I was a kid, me and brothers would have killed for a good, solid plastic BB gun, so in my quest to relive my childhood days, I bought a few cheap Airsoft Glocks (33 and 17) just for plinking around.

    Here are some relevant links:

    http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Ho me
    http://shop.airsoftdynamics.com/home.shtml
    http ://www.airsoftelite.com/

    Also, these are GREAT for shooting girlfriends/cats!

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    1. Re:Japan's model firearm subculture by voidstart · · Score: 0
      Also, these are GREAT for shooting girlfriends/cats!
      ... and geeks wonder why they're lonely.
    2. Re:Japan's model firearm subculture by Aliencow · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's because they shoot their girlfriends with BBs...or maybe it's because they don't have a sense of humor, who knows!

    3. Re:Japan's model firearm subculture by AlexMax2742 · · Score: 1
      Aside from just collecting this guns, there are people that actually play with them ala paintball guns, with teams and everything (think real-life Counterstrike).

      I actually did this a year or two ago with some friends when I was still in high school. He bought some cheap airsoft guns, dished them out and we just shot the crap out of each other in his backyard. Most fun I've had in a while too.

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  4. Different culture, allright! by obeythefist · · Score: 1, Informative

    The Japanese have a very different market to sell for. They like smaller things that are more gadgety, which is why mobile phones and small game consoles are popular, where bulky PC's aren't seen as being as cool as they are in the West.

    They also like different kinds of games, the Final Fantasy series is much bigger there than here. Games like Quake and Doom and multiplayer games are much more popular in the west. Multiplayer is a big driver for PC games that the consoles are only just waking up to (They're in "me too!" mode now.)

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    1. Re:Different culture, allright! by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 1
      Multiplayer is new for consoles? Hmm, that's odd - didn't the NES have two controller ports? Let's see - one controller was for me, that's single-player. Now who's going to use that second port if the games aren't multiplayer? Uh, maybe I was supposed to use the other controller with my feet? Silly me - I played Contra with a friend - and thus violated your law and engaged in multiplayer gaming on a console.

      I realize you meant online gaming but the fact that you call it "me too!" mode, says a lot about your bias. Computers had communication ports. They had built in hardware for communication with other computers over some type of line. Consoles, always sold within a slim profit margin, did not have this hardware.

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  5. Wow, thanks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also, Japan is a country in the Asia and they speak a language called "Japanese."

  6. WHBT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm, why is someone who quotes a known troll site's claims modded interesting?

    Come on, do you really belive that Dragon Quest would sell that much on the PC when there are more console owners in Japan then PC owners?

    And if this quote was ment for the US (No, I didn't read it since I have no desire to read their flamebate or see their site), from what I can tell that series isn't that popular over here and if they tried selling it to the PC market it probably wouldn't do very well.

  7. 'Internation Editions' by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 1

    they also released the American version translated back into Japanese as "Final Fantasy 7 International Edition". I'm not sure why.

    It was rereleased because it had more stuff added to it (not sure what, probably some sidequests, items, monsters, etc. - FFs not really my cup of tea). For some reason the Japanese will actually spend big money on these rereleases. (I suppose some truly obsessive fans combined with lots of disposable income, by American standards, is a good reason for that.) You see the same thing with a lot of Square games especially (Kingdom Hearts did it recently for example), but other companies do it too (Sega rereleased Jet Set Radio in Japan with the two new American levels).

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