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Guy Fawkes' Explosion Would Have Devasted London

Anonymous Coward writes "Experts at the University of Wales in Aberystwyth have worked out for the first time the true extent of the damage Guy Fawkes would have caused if his daring deed had not been foiled on November 5, 1605. " Sorry - history geek/major in me coming out, but this is definitiely one of those major points in history when things Could Have Gone Differently.

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  1. Well, it did happen in 2000 in Enschede... by ControlFreal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At may 13th 2000, a fireworks storage facility (located in the middle of a residential area, of all places) in the city of Enschede in the east of the Netherlands went skyhigh. Some general info is here.

    Whereas the London event would have been equivalent to 2.5 tons of TNT, the Enschede explosion was estimated as being equivalent to anywhere between 5 tons and 15 tons of TNT (between 2e10 and 6e10 Joules, and at maximum about 1/1000th of Hiroshima in terms of energy). In the event, about 100000 kg of fireworks detonated, set off by a detonation in one of the central containers. The energy in the explosion was estimated by analyzing images of the shockfront wave set off by the explosion.

    The result was similar to what has been predicted for London: in Enschede, about 1200 houses were obliterated and 22 were killed.

    Fortunately, the event led to changes in legislation and much stricter requirements for such dangerous storage facilities near residential areas.

    On a personal note: I was about 6 km from Ground Zero when the event happened, and the sound from the explosion was very, very impressive even at that distance!

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  2. Sometimes the experts know what they are doing. by Eevee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    *If* he was an expert,

    There's a link at the end of the article where they point out that Fawkes was brought into the plot because...he was an expert in gunpowder.

    *If* he had it packed in

    This was not a spur of the moment event. There was more than enough time to ensure the gunpowder was correctly placed and packed.

  3. Re:Not much to destroy by Ed_Moyse · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Did you read the article? It would have been much worse than "self-detonating in a starbucks".


    Quoting from the article :"If Guy Fawkes had succeeded with his gunpowder plot he would have devastated much of London as well as blowing the palace of Westminster sky-high."


    Bear in mind that even if only a few thousand people died in the initial explosion (there were hundreds of MPs in westminster, plus all the support staff) that there weren't firemen in the same sense as we have now. There would probably have been a fire sweeping london, like Great Fire of 1666:
    "On Sunday morning, the 2nd September 1666, the destruction of medieval London began. Within 5 days the city which Shakespeare had known was destroyed by fire. An area of one and a half miles by half a mile lay in ashes; 373 acres inside the city walls and 63 acres outside, 87 churches destroyed (including St. Paul's Cathedral) and 13,200 houses." source


    That fire started in a bakery. I think that Guy Fawkes could have done pretty well too.

  4. Re:Future by dunstan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Particularly the consequences of persecuting a minority within your population.

    Some years ago I was given a book about the Gunpowder plot, which sets the context. After the death of Elizabeth I, there was hope among the English Catholics that life would get better. Instead, James I set up what was effectively an inquisition, and appoined Popplewell to turn the screws down even tighter. My family were tucked away in North Yorkshire, and got away with a series of fines, but many English Catholic families had members executed - the English Martyrs. That's why even in today's more ecumenical time I'm not ashamed to sing "Our fathers chained in prisons dark were still in heart and conscience free".

    Yes, a splinter group decided to resort to violence, and yes that was totally unforgiveable, but there is a lesson which should not be ingored.

    Dunstan Vavasour

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