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Will A Price War Run VoIP Out of Business?

ElCheapo writes "News.com looks at the recent price war that has erupted amongst VoIP providers. How much lower can costs for unlimited long distance go before next-generation phone services run themselves out of business? How does this compare with free services that don't offer connectivity to the PSTN? Packet8 offers service for $19.99/month, a level analysts say is unsustainable. Vonage recently dropped their rates to $35/month to match VoicePulse. VoicePulse is known to use a softswitch based on the Asterisk open source PBX. Will open source allow startups to compete with the traditional LECs?"

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  1. ummmmmmm by Ty · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, blah blah blah. What's the big deal if they run themselves out of business? Just like in the post dot bomb era, a successful company, with a patient (aka actual, profitable) business plan will emerge to replace them.

  2. wtf by Arjuna+Theban · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since when does competitive price slashing drive whole sectors out of business? The ones that have a better business model and do things more efficiently will survive, others won't.

    Mind you, however, this is true where these businesses aren't competing against a monopoly which can undercut prices at their loss. In either way though, there is at least one company left providing the service of the sector.

    -bm

  3. Competition saves, regulation kills by dada21 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It won't be competition that drives a market away, it is excessive regulation, government mandated monopolies, or a lack of desire for that service or product by the purchasing public.

    I doubt that people will lose the desire to use VoIP, so that third occurence is unlikely. But government overregulating, or enforcing a company's "right" to be the sole provider of the service, both could happen (and probably will). I see ads on TV all the time for "$40 a month unlimited phone service!" but I know the last time I had such a deal, I paid $50 for the service, and $35 or more for all the government taxes and fees on top of it.

    It is ridiculous.

    I dumped my wired phone service because of these fees, and I am about to dump my cell phone service for the same reason. I have enough IP connectivity wherever I am that that I will happily switch to a VoIP company that allows me to transport my Wi-Fi based phone to any network and immediately get connectivity. But when they start getting taxed heavily, I'll move on to the next format.

    Honestly, 80% of my communications have moved to instant messaging of some kind. Its loggable, it takes thought to write messages, and I can communicate with 5 seperate conversations at once. I used to use almost 3000 minutes a month on my cell phone, now I am down to 1000 minutes, but I send probably 10,000 text messages to various people.

    I'm betting many of you will eventually drop the over-taxed, over-regulated services for ones that get the work done faster, cheaper, and with fewer government intrusions.

    1. Re:Competition saves, regulation kills by skarmor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your assertion that the market will be driven away by "Government mandated monopolies" and "excessive regulation" shows that you have no understanding of the modern regulatory environment. I think you will find that competition is one of the highest priorities of the federal (and state) telecom regulators in both the US and Canada.

      Rather than trying to enforce a company's "right to be the sole provider", regulatory bodies are implementing complicated pricing regimes, unbundling local copper loops and facilitating the interconnection of competitors specifically to maintain competition which could not survive on its own in the current environment.

      I dumped my wired phone service because of these fees, and I am about to dump my cell phone service for the same reason. I have enough IP connectivity wherever I am that that I will happily switch to a VoIP company that allows me to transport my Wi-Fi based phone to any network and immediately get connectivity. But when they start getting taxed heavily, I'll move on to the next format.

      You do realize that VoIP companies like Vonage still interconnect with the ("over regulated") PSTN in order to terminate calls right?

      I find that most people don't have a clear understanding of how VoIP is being implemented. While it is possible to interconnect IP phones without accessing the PSTN this is not currently practical for most people. In fact, bypassing the PSTN completely would not be feasible until broadband is installed in most people's homes. Given the current levels of broadband deployment and the growth rate for that industry, it can be argued that it will be a good 10 years before there would be enough broadband connections out there to bypass the copper based PSTN. Of course we have to keep in mind that the PSTN is constantly being upgraded such that the option of bypassing the copper will probably not arise. In fact within the next 20 years we can expect to see the implementation of last mile fiber (Fiber in every home.)

      The current benefit of VoIP is that it can replace circuit based switches (DMS-10, DMS-100) in favor of packet based switching over the fiber backbone. This solution is of course temporary. As more fiber is deployed, we will see the widespread use of telephony based on various protocols provided on different wavelengths within the fiber itself.

      Honestly, 80% of my communications have moved to instant messaging of some kind. Its loggable, it takes thought to write messages, and I can communicate with 5 seperate conversations at once. I used to use almost 3000 minutes a month on my cell phone, now I am down to 1000 minutes, but I send probably 10,000 text messages to various people.

      When you are sending text messages you are doing so over the regulated telephone network. You can't escape regulation, its going to be there.

      As people's needs change the telecommunications indusrty will make efforts to meet those needs. As technology changes, so will regulation. Prices will drop and some services (like long distance) will become obsolete. You will find that telcos will be acting more and more as content providers rather than network providers as the cost of communications approaches zero. However, there will always be regulation (and taxation), you can count on it.

  4. Re:I'll settle for 0$ by duffbeer703 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The only reason you would need an actual service provider is to connect to 'legacy' telephone networks or to offer services like voicemail.

    That's a pretty big deal, considering there are like 500 million "legacy" phone lines in the US alone...

    Traditional telecom will never allow VoIP to take off... telephone companies are huge employers in just about every state. They'll lobby congress and state legislatures and have VoIP taxed out of business.

    Why? Verizon, SBC, etc are addicted to that $20-50/mo they make on residental service.

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    Conformity is the jailer of freedom and enemy of growth. -JFK