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Belkin Routers Route Users to Censorware Ad

The Register has a story today about Belkin routers redirecting their users' network traffic. To me, this seems like the logical next step after top-level domain name servers piping ads to your browser. Now the routers themselves hijack the traffic they are supposed to, uh, route -- and you'll love where they send you instead. But it's OK because you can opt out. Incidentally, the Crystal Ball Award goes to Seth Finkelstein, who in 2001 quoted John Gilmore's famous aphorism about the internet, and asked "What if censorship is in the router?"

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  1. Here's the angle I would take... by pegr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The device is defective. Make product support give you one that works. While you're at it, send hate mail to the marketing team. I bet the support guy will give you the right email addresses...

    Better yet, get the addresses and post them here.

    1. Re:Here's the angle I would take... by Hypocritical+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'll just quit buying Belkin products. Though I don't have any to beginning.

      --
      If you liked licking my balls, add me to your foes list!
    2. Re:Here's the angle I would take... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      ericd@belkin.com

      You're welcome. :)

    3. Re:Here's the angle I would take... by rjamestaylor · · Score: 5, Informative

      Try their public relations manager (fitting, since this is a public relations nightmare). Be nice.

      Contact:
      Melody Chalaban,
      Public Relations Manager
      Belkin Components
      501 W. Walnut Street
      Compton, CA 90220

      melodych@belkin.com
      (310) 604-2347 direct
      (310) 898-1107 fax
      www.belkin.com

      --
      -- @rjamestaylor on Ello
    4. Re:Here's the angle I would take... by shane_rimmer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know how you feel about Netgear, but they are another option.

    5. Re:Here's the angle I would take... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ericd@belkin.com enjoys his peace and quiet. ericd@belkin.com does not like unsolicited email. People should not send messages to ericd@belkin.com unless they are personally affected by the issue. Spammers should not illegally harvest the email address ericd@belkin.com.

    6. Re:Here's the angle I would take... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The same Netgear that hard-coded some unfortunate NTP server in their firmware, causing tons of grief for a university? These guys are faced with either throwing away a network segment, or adding tons of unicast-type hacks to try to service all of the traffic.

  2. Some other ideas... by L-Train8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's next? Will the phone you buy occasionaly redirect your call to a telemarketer? Will your TV remote automatically switch channels to an infomercial? Maybe your car radio could redirect your listening to a clear channel station every
    8 hours. These are business models I need to patent...

    --

    Don't forget that Friday is Hawaiian shirt day.
    1. Re:Some other ideas... by jpetts · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm looking forward to to car that randomly turns left when you turn the steering wheel to the right.

      Come to WA state: it appears that most drivers here are already using them, if their apparent road-sense is anything to go by...

      --
      Call me old fashioned, but I like a dump to be as memorable as it is devastating - Bender
    2. Re:Some other ideas... by Rex+Code · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What's next? Will the phone you buy occasionaly redirect your call to a telemarketer? Will your TV remote automatically switch channels to an infomercial?

      My TV does change channels automatically to infomercials. I have a TiVo, and one of the "features" is that at the top level menu you'll often see ads that you can choose to watch. The TiVo grabs these late at night when it thinks nobody watches TV... unfortunately if you watch live TV around 1 or 2 in the morning you'll find yourself having to opt-out of a channel change to record "TiVo enhanced content" every ten minutes or so.

      (annoying, and I wish there was a way to opt-out of this once and for all, but I'm still a big TiVo fan, and they gotta make money to stay afloat, so I put up with it)

  3. That is insanity by tekiegreg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ok if I buy say a Book from my favorite online bookstore and get it shipped UPS, I'd expect it to arrive as a book right?

    But what if every one in 100 times, UPS thinks I might like a corporate logo bumper sticker instead of my book, they throw my book into the eternal void, and give me a UPS bumper sticker instead. I'm supposed to like this?

    Bottom line: When I ask a package to get delivered, and for a certain package to be received, I WANT that package, not what they think I want. Whether it's a TCP/IP packet, or a book. I fail to see the difference here.

    Bottom line, thanks to Slashdot I'm not buying my routers from Belkin (not that I'm a telecom person, but still I'd be careful if I ever had to).

    --
    ...in bed
  4. Redirect hardcoded? by nizo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is the address it redirects to hardcoded, or can the router get hacked and a new address put in? Now that would be good PR for Belkin, someone hacks the router and redirects all web traffic to some porn site.

  5. Re:Usenet thread by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    From: ericd@belkin.com (Eric Deming)
    Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
    Subject: Re: [OT-evil marketing] Belkin does Verislime one better - router spam!
    Date: 5 Nov 2003 15:25:28 -0800
    Organization: http://groups.google.com
    Lines: 70
    Message-ID:
    References:
    NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.98.73.254
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    X-Trace: posting.google.com 1068074728 22743 127.0.0.1 (5 Nov 2003 23:25:28 GMT)
    X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
    NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:25:28 +0000 (UTC)

    "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:...
    > Mr. Uh Clem wrote:
    >
    > [...]
    >
    > What does Belkin say when you complain?
    >
    > I'd make their life miserable until they removed the offending software from
    > my machine.
    >
    > You did not conset to this aspect of your machine's modification - this is
    > nothing less than malicious.
    >
    > Raise hell.

    I was made aware of this posting by an e-mail that was sent to
    Belkin's tech support e-mail box. Since I am a product manager for
    Belkin's LAN products and was very involved with the development of
    the Parental Control feature, I feel that I can shed some light on
    this subject. Firstly, without trying to sound too stand-offish, we
    are not talking about SPAM here. For me to clarify, an understanding
    of the Parental Control service will really be needed.

    Since Parental Control is a subscription service, Belkin wanted to
    make registering for the service very easy. Since the router actually
    will work in tandem with an outside server (Cerberian,
    www.cerberian.com) registration information needs to be collected and
    sent to Belkin and Cerberian to activate an account. Traditional
    methods of registration, such as asking the user to go to a website or
    navigate to the Router's internal Web page to enter information didn't
    meet the ease-of-use goal. We elected to re-direct one http request to
    the "Register Now" reminder page. (There is a link in a previous
    posting if you want to see it) This page asks the user to register for
    the service for a free 6 month trial. Now, granted this looks like an
    ad. It should, it is intended to be informative and easy enough to
    understand. At this point, the user can register or click "No Thanks".
    Clicking "No Thanks" sets a flag in the Router to stop the Router from
    re-directing every 8 hours to the reminder page. (Again remember, only
    one http request every 8 hours). Admittedly, there is no controlling
    which computer on the LAN this message will pop up on. If the user
    just closes the window without clicking "No Thanks", then the flag is
    never set, and the reminders will continue. Now, if you are the type
    that doesn't want to click the "No Thanks" button, then no problem.
    Navigate to the Router's internal web interface (default IP =
    192.168.2.1), click on the Parental Control menu. In the Menu, select
    "Don't Remind every 8 hours" (This phrase actually varies a bit, but
    you get the idea) then click "Apply Changes". DONE. Nothing to it. By
    the way, this procedure might have to be done if your router is behind
    a firewall. Reason: filter.belkin.com sends a response to the Router
    to set the flag. Firewalls will block the response. This might explain
    the problem in a school for instance.

    We did this not to be evil, we did this to make sure that any
    non-techy person (part of our target audience) would have ample
    opportunity to opt in or out of the free 6 month trial of the Parental
    Control feature. The Router doesn't collect information on you and
    send it to Belkin. We don't have the ability to SPAM you at a later
    time if you select "No Thanks" or turn off the Reminder manually. I
    know this feature might be misunderstood and might PO some people. I
    know the manual could do a better job explaining it. These are all
    things that we at Belkin are working to remedy.

  6. Re:I could see this coming by jayhawk88 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IHBT...

    Bullshit. Slashdot is bombarding me with ads because I'm a cheap bastard and refuse to pay them for the content they provide me. Belkin's got the money I gave them for their router, they don't need to be sending me ads I don't want to see to make more money.

  7. Thank you Belkin. by Dr.+Bent · · Score: 5, Funny

    With the dizzying array of routers available for purchase, I've often been befuddled by the sheer number of choices that I have when buying new equipment. Which one is better? Why is this router $10 less than this other one when they appear to do the same thing? Which manufacturer should I trust with my data? With razon thin profit margins, and fierce competition in the IT hardware industry, such choices have become extremely difficult.

    It's comforting to to know that Belkin has recognized my problem, and has stepped forward in an effort to solve it. They make it so much easier by saying...

    "If It's Belkin, You Don't Want It!"(tm)

    Thank you Belkin. With your new forward-thinking "Don't Buy Our Stuff" policy, I will be sure to stay on the lookout for other products that you offer, so that they can assist me in making difficult purchasing choices even easier.

  8. Meanwhile In Court... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "So Mr. Stevens, you are saying that you ordered an Extra Value Meal, and the cashier instead hauled off and punched you in the face."

    "That's right."

    "And so you are charging the cashier with assault."

    "That's right."

    "All right. Mr. Defense lawyer, what do you have to say to that?"

    "Mr. Stevens: Did you specifically ask my client NOT to punch you in the face?"

    "Huh?"

    "What did you tell him exactly?"

    "Um.. I told him, I would like a number three meal and a Dr. Pepper."

    "I see, and that was all?"

    "Um, yes."

    "Not that you wanted a number three meal, a Dr. Pepper, and to not be punched in the face?"

    "Uh.. no, just the #3 and the Dr. Pepper."

    "Your honor. How can my client be expected to be held responsible for this when Mr. Stevens was unclear about what he wanted? Had he configured his order correctly, my client would not have punched him in the face. So why is my client the one to blame? What do think Mr. Stevens expected to have happened?"

    "Hmm, excellent point. Case dismissed."

  9. Belkin can modify your router settings? by extrarice · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I found this quote from Eric Deming in response to the original newsgroup posting quite interesting...

    [quote]
    By the way, this procedure (disabling the nagware in the router web-config) might have to be done if your router is behind a firewall. Reason: filter.belkin.com sends a response to the Router to set the flag. [/quote]

    So Belkin deliberately left a configuration on the router to be modifiable by someone without proper authorization (the owner of the router or the network admin)? Absolute genius. Destroy your company's reputation 100% in one easy step: the backdoor(s) will piss of the geeks, and the nagware-advertising will piss off Joe Sixpack.

    --
    "Jesus saves, but everyone else in a 10 foot radius takes full damage from the fireball."
  10. I suggest a new verb: by scrytch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Belkin (verb) - To serreptitiously alter a product in such a fashion that legitimate use is hijacked to the benefit of the manufacturer or associated beneficiaries, usually in a crass self-promoting fashion.

    It's a decent start at a definition. One could say "I installed this topdesk thing which totally belkined my browser". Let's make their name synonymous with bad behavior.

    --
    I've finally had it: until slashdot gets article moderation, I am not coming back.
  11. Re:Exactly by wo1verin3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    >> Boy did they blow this one. If they had stuck
    >> to something simple like your very first HTTP
    >> transaction brought up a configuration/advert
    >> screen only once, then there wouldn't even be
    >> a story.

    Actually this is pretty much what happens. Here is a snippet from usenet.

    We elected to re-direct one http request to
    the "Register Now" reminder page. (There is a link in a previous
    posting if you want to see it) This page asks the user to register for
    the service for a free 6 month trial. Now, granted this looks like an
    ad. It should, it is intended to be informative and easy enough to
    understand. At this point, the user can register or click "No Thanks".
    Clicking "No Thanks" sets a flag in the Router to stop the Router from
    re-directing every 8 hours to the reminder page.


    In summary, you have to click 'no thanks' ONCE and you'll never see the thing again unless you do a hard reset of the router.

  12. Re:You may wonder how this happened: A Story. by decaf_dude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's my e-mail to sales@belkin.com
    QUOTE
    Hi,

    I just want to let you know that I'm suspending purchase of several
    accessories made by Belkin for my 30G iPod because of your blatant abuse of
    customer trust (the router rerouter fiasco). Furthermore, I shall engage in
    an active campaign among friends and family to make sure none of them buy your
    products for the same reason. Being a geek by profession, a lot of my
    non-tech friends take my advice for tech purchases. Since you've been
    featured on /. already, you can be sure there are many others who'll take
    similar course of action.

    I sincerely hope your bottom line will suffer enough for you to make an
    official pledge never to ream your customers again. Or that you go bankrupt
    (financially, because morally you obviously already have).

    I feel betrayed, having recommended your products (even when priced above
    competition) for corporate and personal purchase so many times in the past,
    because of build quality I can count on. However, build quality is not
    enough; integrity and ethics are just as (if not more) important, especially
    at times of Good Enough Syndrome.

    Is this (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=85076&cid=741 9620) what really
    happened?
    ENDQUOTE

  13. Here's my letter to their PR rep by CrystalFalcon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Good afternoon.

    My name is [name deleted], and I work as IT department manager for a medium sized company in [place deleted]. I write to you in light of the recent unveiling that Belkin are knowingly shipping routers that show commercials to the end users by hijacking HTTP connections.

    I am not sure if the product manager, Eric Deming, who designed the product to not work as expected did so understanding the full consequences if - or, rather, when - this information would become public. The one reason Belkin's name has been held in high regard at the company I work for is because of dependability. When it turns out that Belkin is actively designing products to not work dependably, but instead display advertising at the user; that reputation of dependability... well... there's not much left of it. And, as you are aware, for every one of Belkin's products, there is a competing product.

    It becomes much worse. It also turns out that Belkin has the ability to remotely modify the behavior of these routers. When I showed this fact to our network security people, they went ballistic and drove straight off to the local equipment store, only to come back two hours later with a bunch of boxes. 30 minutes later, there was a heap of discarded equipment in a disorderly pile in one corner of the networking room. The discarded items all carried the name "Belkin". I signed the receipt for the new equipment with a look, a sigh, and a nod.

    To top it off, it seems that your Mr. Deming who designed this behavior believes that every outbound hijackable connection originates from somebody sitting at a computer and browsing the web. However, more important are the automated connections. What would happen if the backup for our commercial data, which is transmitted regularly over the Internet, instead was pushed to Belkin, due to this behavior? What would happen if virus or operating system upgrade connections were the ones hijacked? Heart defibrillating equipment has been mentioned - what would happen if the heart defibrillation monitor, trying to trigger the impulse with the charging equipment, is instead redirected to a Belkin advertisement? You know, telesurgery exists and does depend on a reliable Internet infrastructure, consisting of such boxes as yours.

    This product has been designed to not work, despite charging good money for it. I lack words to describe how shameful this behavior is.

    Additionally, if the Belkin corporate culture is one that allows such a technical atrocity to make it to the shelves for one product, then it is obvious it may happen again, or has already happened, for other products. However, rest assured that this company will never again buy another Belkin product as long as I run the IT department.

    [signature]

  14. Re:Exactly by Bleck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My fear there -- so now, when I click on a link and get re-directed to some arbitrary site, I'm supposed to click the "click here if you're not interested" link? Haven't we spent the last thousand posts making fun of users who fall for that?

    --Tom

  15. Re:Exactly by pclminion · · Score: 5, Funny
    Waiter: "Hi, I'll be your waiter tonight."

    Customer: "Great! I'd like a cup of the soup please."

    [Waiter takes out a hammer, thwaps customer on skull]

    Customer: "WTF was that for?"

    Waiter: "Sir, I'll stop thwapping you on the head as soon as you TELL me to stop."

    Customer: "Why the hell would I have to TELL you to stop?"

    [Waiter thwaps customer once more]

    Customer: "GOD DAMMIT!"

    Waiter: "Just say 'Stop,' sir, and this will all be over..."