OSDL Pays For Linus Torvalds' SCO Defense

geoff313 writes " For all of you who might be worried about what financial consequences Linus Torvalds might have to endure as a result of being subpoenaed by SCO, fear not: the Open Source Development Lab (OSDL) will pay for its law firm to represent him. the OSDL, who are Torvalds' employer, will announce on Friday that the "OSDL has agreed to fund legal representation for Torvalds and any other employees of the lab who may become involved in the litigation." Just in case you didn't you didn't know, the OSDL is funded by a variety of corporations including (but not limitied to) IBM, Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Sun Microsystems, Red Hat, Cisco, Computer Associates, Fujitsu, Hitachi, and Nokia. "

Comments

Bon Appetite!

[corebreech]

McBride is what is known in the poker world as a fish.

Which is to SCO's great misfortune because penguins literally eat fish for breakfast.

And Torvalds is the biggest, baddest penguin out there. One might even call him The Omega Penguin. The king of all penguins, indeed, of all penguin-kind. Their lord. The single template from which all other penguins were wrought.

I'm just sorry they're not selling tickets for this one.

Fudning sources

[bluelip]

>>>Just in case you didn't you didn't know, the OSDL is funded by a variety of corporations including (but not limitied to) IBM, Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Sun Microsystems, Red Hat, Cisco, Computer Associates, Fujitsu, Hitachi, and Nokia. "

Just in case that was someone hiding beneath a rock, SCO is funded by Microsoft.

I can see it now

[KU_Fletch]

I've got good money on SCO suing OSDL within the next week for "blatant copyright violations and big meanie stupid poo faces"

worried?

[happyfrogcow]

Since when has anyone really been worried about Linus? There was probably a line of people bidding to represent him. With his cool headed demeanor and knowledge, lawyers would drool over helping him to shoot down SCO.

Linus, your allright man. There are thousands of people who have got your back. Keep on hacking.

Re:worried?

[Bastian]

Don't be so quick to cast the radical big mouthed hippie aside. He is certainly an iconoclast, I hear he has an abrasive personality, and he annoys a whole lot of people by being one of those rare types who sticks firmly to idealism rather than pragmatism. Don't let all that get in the way of your realizing just how valuable he is.

If it weren't for the radical big-mouthed hippie and his radical big-mouthed hippie ideas, there would be no FSF, no GPL. Linux would have never caught on because with no glibc an' all that, nobody would have plugged all that stuff into Linux in order to make it useful. I doubt Linux would have even become a truly viable kernel for non-recreational hacking use without GNU.

His radical big-mouthed hippie way of thinking is the way of thinking that gave us something like the GPL, and I seriously doubt that the GPL could have come out of a mind that doesn't work like RMS's. Someone less idealist would have come up with a much weaker license, probably something more like a BSD or MIT license. Someone less abrasive and bull-headed never would have started the project to begin with.

So unless you're a long-time FreeBSD user or a hardcore Windows geek, grow up and quit whining about RMS. Linux wrote a great kernel, but GNU has done more to make Linux (GNU/Linux, whatever) a viable OS and getting this whole movement to go mainstream than any other body. RMS started gathering all the fuel, Linus is just the guy who lit the match.

Anti-SCO License

[frostfreek]

I would like to know if the OSDL will pay to have their lawyers develop a version of a GPL that forbids downloading/use/repackaging of a software package by any computer that has ever had a SCO OS within 1km of it.
That's just about what I want for my next Open Source software release.

Yet more SCO fodder

[cadfael]

FWIW, you might want to read Motley Fool's Tom Taulli's take on this. th3m0nk

Re:Slick move, SCO

[advocate_one]

It's not a whole pack of 800lb Gorillas... it's worse... a flock of attack penguins backed with some loose Gnus...

Reap what you sow, young geek

[csoto]

To support Linux, coders contribute code, and get... code in return!

Corporations (IBM, RedHat, Sun, etc.) contribute dollars and guess what they get for their support of Linux?

These corps. have a lot invested in Linux (and will continue to do so), simply because they stand to make boatloads of money using and growing it. It's in their interests to fight SCO.

Re:Community would have supported a defense fund

[Polly_was_a_cracker]

You mean who is going to defend SCO from Richard Stallman..
Even though they asked for it... This is like going trout fishing and catching a shark that eats your wife.

Why this is truely good for OSS

[BubbaTheBarbarian]

while there seems to an outpouring of support for Linus, the idea of contributing to a defense fund would actually hurt him. As opposed to RMs, who as an idealist and catalyst of social change makes his way through life via his supporters, Linus "works" for a living. Having OSDL and the various companies that support it come to his support gives the man, and therefore his product, an air of legitimacy that would not be had if his defense was being funded by OSS supporters. In this case, both methods of paying for their defense works, as RMS is supported by the people and Linus is not (from a monetary POV people).

Secondly is the screaming by those asking why the hell he needs a defense. In the case of both RMS and Linus they both are responsible for the two major things that makes Linux what it is today, free and strongly coded. SCO is attacking both the freedom we have in distributing code and the underlying source of the strength of it's code, ergo it is imperative for them to prove to the court that both of these things are not permissible under the law.

This is not just a test of the GPL and Linux. This is a coordinated attack meant to gauge the underlying strength of the OSS community and those that (corporate and private) that support it. The bet was made with the thought that after a little law action, one of the players would pull out making the house of cards fall.

Oppps.

Now they are faced with something they never thought they would have, the beginnings or a tighter conglomerate of users and corps that are ready and willing to defend our right to code and not have it stolen, and our right to distribute that code without interference from companies hell bent on stealing for a living. I have said before that this is not the last of this ordeal, and I truly thing that we are in for a rough 2 to 4 years here in regards to challenges on the GPL and the community in general, but seeing things like this makes believe even more that good things are all that can come of this.

Re:Question

[Anonymous Coward]

A subpoena is technically issued by the court. This does not mean, however, that a court actually approves it before it is served. Rather, attorneys are permitted, as officers of the court, to draft and serve subpoenas. If the subpoenaed party does not respond, or objects, than the issuer must go to court and file a motion to compel compliance with the subpoena. This is when the judge actually looks at the subpoena and passes on its validity.

If you're really interested in this, search for Rule 45 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and look on any Federal Court's website for a blank subpoena.

Re:Slick move, SCO

[Haeleth]

it's worse... a flock of attack penguins backed with some loose Gnus...

I can see the headlines now: BAD GNUS FOR SCO

Re:Do you need a lawyer?

[Anonymous Coward]

Having been deposed before, and having watched others, he should have a lawyer. Their job is to train you for and protect you when the opposition tries to make you look like an ass. The SCO lawyer will try to twist anything and everything that Linus says to SCO's advantage. (That's why its called adversarial!)

Re:Do you need a lawyer?

[WhiteWolf666]

Microsoft has the most money?

Nonsense---you forget who they are fighting.

Microsoft is a 400 pound gorilla.

IBM is a 12-ton space monster that shoots laser beams out of its eyes.

IBM is a FAR bigger company, with a MUCH more experienced legal team.

And Microsoft isn't fighting IBM directly, they are doing it (if at all) through a proxy.

SCO is more like a 75-pound hyena. Mean bite, makes a lot of noise.

But IBM is scary. Really, really scary.

Quiet scary, you know? Creeping-up-and-splattering-you in one move scary.