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Nonexistent Windows OS Superior to Panther
Anonymous Coward writes "A Windows user slams Panther. 'Apple has implemented some basic desktop composition features in Mac OS X "Panther." But the basic problem with Mac OS X isn't going away: It's a classic desktop operating system that doesn't offer anything in the way of usability advancements over previous desktop operating systems. Today, Windows XP and its task-based interface are far superior to anything in Mac OS X. In the future, Longhorn will further distance Windows from OS X. (sic) From a graphical standpoint, there won't be any comparison. As Microsoft revealed at the PDC 2003 conference, Longhorn is far more impressive technically than Panther.'"
this beeping problem I have. When ever I'm writing a paper on my PC, all of a sudden it goes BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP, and like half of my paper is GONE!! So I have to write it again, and I have to do it fast, so it's not as good.
E.F.
Paul in particular is an interesting case. He runs his Windows site, which includes an occasional dig at the Mac -- but he also runs his blog, which comes very close to being 24/7 Mac gloom and doom. And he appears to actually have a 500MHz iBook and a 1GHz iMac...
Q: What's with this Palladium stuff I keep hearing about?
A: One of the most exciting aspects of Longhorn is its optional integration with Palladium
Ok, this guy must either work for Microsoft or is getting some serious kick-back. I wonder what he's getting because no sane person would use exciting and Palladium in the same sentence.
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I wonder what he's getting because no sane person would use exciting and Palladium in the same sentence.
I can come up with one:
"The RIAA, MPAA, and Proprietary software vendors, are all excited about the amount of choice taken away from users with Palladium"
Yeah, well... my monkey-powered flying car is better than your mercedes-benz.
YOU'LL SEE, once I get around to releasing it to the public.
Yes, I've seen one of Microsoft's slogans in one of their flyers:
Our software makes your daily work more interesting
Yes, that's exactly it. Not "easier". Not "more effective". Not "fun". Not "better quality". Exactly, "more interesting". When opening your email is connected with all the thrills "Does it contain a virus or not?", when setting up some network is a challenge, when finding TCP/IP networking in the bunch of "non-technical-sounding" wizards in XP takes half a hour, it certainly makes your work more interesting... to anyone who happens to watch you fuming over that stuff.
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I thought Mac users were the ones that belonged to a "cult"
I like microcars
excite
tr.v. excited, exciting, excites
1. To stir to activity.
2. To call forth (a reaction or emotion, for example); elicit: odd noises that excited our curiosity.
3. To arouse strong feeling in: speakers who know how to excite a crowd. See Synonyms at provoke.
It sure as hell is stirring activity and it's DEFINITLY arousing strong feelings in me
I find palladium very exciting. Exciting me to acquire plastic explosives, but exciting none the less...
Buttsex.
Asking Slashdotters to calmly explain the fallacy of a Windows zealot's argument is like asking Steve Ballmer to shut up and just breathe for a second.
No comment.
Not having Windows is better than having it; so it is only a slight jump of logic to conclude that NOT having Windows OS is superior to having Panther.
More importantly, if something coming out 2-3 years from now is not technologically superior to Panther (including any Apple OSes that come out in the next couple of years) I would be very disappointed and suprised.
How is this suprising or news?
Longhorn will include new anti-virus (AV) APIs that will help developers more easily integrate their wares into the base OS.
NO! Those are the things we do NOT want virus writers to have -- special APIs that help developers write simply code that seamlessly integrates into bowels of the OS! :-)
I know what you meant, but my sentence gives me the warm fuzzies whereas his sentence just made my skin crawl.
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So, WinFS means Windows Future Storage? Does that mean that when Longhorn is released, the name will change to WinPS, as in Windows Present Storage?
I can go to an Apple store and find several models of computers coming with OSX pre-installed. How many computers are shipping with Longhorn? Nobody is using it..it must suck.
And compatibility is an absolute nightmare. I've been to every computer store in the country and not a single printer, camera, scanner, card or anything is listed as being compatible with Longhorn. Simply put Longhorn has a tiny niche market for time travelers and can not survive as such.
XP doesn't have a task-based interface, it has a chore-based interface: it makes many otherwise simple things a chore to do. The reason we're seeing Longhorn betas now but no real product for maybe 3 years is because the bits that are important to Microsoft have nothing to do with the shiny new flavour-of-the-year (in particular, last year) blue plastic interface. What Microsoft see as most necessary is the sheaf of bondageware going in behind it. Once the shackles are welded firmly in place, we'll see an official release.
Three months later, passport.com (and so your Longhorn machine) will be 0wn3d by a Brazilian/Russian/Korean cracker collective who will be running it from their satellite-connected PDA while they blitz around in their shiny new Hummer all funded in part by your credit card - if Microsoft remember to renew the domain registration, that is. By which time all of Asia, Africa, South America and much of Europe will be running Linux anyway, and won't care.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
Our software makes your daily work more interesting
In the sense of the old Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times."
The "new" Longhorn Startup Sound!
I like microcars
OHG, I'm a nerd, I'm bashing GUIs now.
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Congratulations, Mr Clueless, you have just made yourself the greatest laughing stock on the Web!
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How the hell can you say "Longhorn is far more impressive technically than Panther" when Panther is a reality while Longdelayhorn is no more than a blurred vision without even a firm release date and many of its promised features are still in the conceptual stage? In all likelihood, Longdelayhorn may well be Windows 2007, judging by MS track record.
Even if the slow moving and grass chewing beast exists today, it's still not much more than a also-ran knockoff of Mac OS X in many respects. Let's have a quick look at the 3 pillars of Longdelayhorn:
(1) Aero / Avalon has nothing new compared to aqua / Quartz: Mac OS X has offered transparency, shadow, animation, 3D effects right from the beginning 3 years ago, and Quartz Extreme in Jaguar only made it faster.
(2) WinFS: live search that refines as you type is built-in for many OS X apps (Address Book, iTunes, iPhoto, iCal, Mail, Finder, Preview, Xcode), and Finder has its own dynamic database for fast search by name / content / type / size / date / visibility / label.
(3) Indigo: there are many OS X apps with built-in Web services, Sherlock and Watson have channels for dictionary / translation / eBay / flight / movie / restaurant / etc, and even the humble Calculator can do currency conversion based on live exchange rate on the Web.
How about other great OS X features like Expose, Finder column view, spring-loaded folder, folder action, system wide spelling check and word completion, speech recognition, and so on?
Longdelayhorn was initially planned to be Windows 2004, and after so much hype, now MS doesn't even promise a release date, so it could be 2006 or 2007. After that, it will likely take another 2 or 3 years for bug fixing, so your poor Windows victims may have to wait till 2010 for a usable version, what a joke!
Can anybody explain what's with Windows fanboys? I mean, seriously. It's one thing that fans of an "underdog" OS such as OS X or Linux promote their systems.. but who in their right mind thinks a mainstream OS used by 95% of the population needs a cheerleader? Or that Microsoft doesn't do a good enough job promoting their own products? I mean, really. Get a life. Not even the Cult of the Mac spends its time speculating about an OS that's 4+ years out. Hell, the most the Mac crowd does is speculate on the next release, and nobody's even chomping at the bit about 10.4 yet. Who seriously thinks it's important to see Longhorn screenshots in 2002 or 2003? Is there nothing else for these people to get excited about?
I almost wrote a nasty email to the moron who writes that column, but didn't even know where to start!
If you're a huge Windows fanatic, OK, maybe you're looking forward to the next release. I can accept that. But honestly, PROMOTING Palladium and other nonsense? This is like music fans helping the RIAA to find people who illegally share music, and then bragging about it!
This guy is just.. hopelessly pathetic.
(From a Win95->Linux->OS X convert)
Longhorn might turn out to be a great OS, but there is a growing list of governments (like Brazil, Vietnam, and even the EU) that have decided that all the pain and dangers that come with using a Microsoft product aren't worth it and are transitioning to Open Source.
After everything Microsoft users have been through this year, I am still amazed ANYONE uses anything from Microsoft!
On the other hand... it has been a great year to be a Mac users!
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