802.11b Memory Stick for CLIE

Picture by r_glen · 2003-11-16 04:41 · Score: 4, Informative

A picture of the card is here, which was developed by Hagiwara Sys-Com (and simply name-branded by Sony).

Re:Picture by penguin7of9 · 2003-11-16 05:23 · Score: 3, Informative

I think that comparison between the Bluetooth stick and the WiFi stick speaks for itself. What you don't see is that the WiFi stick will also suck your battery dry very quickly.

WiFi makes little sense for PDAs--it's too big and too power hungry. If you really must have something like that, get one of the Enfora WiFi cases (search on Google), which at least includes its own battery.
Re:Picture by RevAaron · 2003-11-16 15:10 · Score: 1

Wifi makes little sense for some PDAs, especially ones equipped with a poor battery. On other PDAs, wifi makes a lot of sense; at least, as much sense as wifi makes on any other computing device.

On a PDA I owned but sold a few months ago, I could get 8 hours straight of wifi-enabled usage. That is, web browsing, ssh, irc, email etc etc. No, some PDAs don't make sense- like a Palm m130 or a Zaurus SL-5500 where you're talking about two hours or less doing wifi stuff. But there are PDAs out there with the ability to deal without getting a big clunky external case.

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Re:Picture by Quaryon · 2003-11-17 01:57 · Score: 1

OK, silly me, I thought it was useful being able to read BBC News, Slashdot and The Register in bed. Ho hum, I'll get over it.

Blanket statements like "it's not useful" miss the point - for me, catching up on the new headlines anywhere in my house is just great - since I'm rarely far from my PDA charger it's not an issue if the battery will only last 2-3 hours while using wireless..

Why on earth would you want to surf for 4 hours continously on a PDA anyhow? I don't get it.. but if you do, that's fine, just remember that not all of us need that length of time in one shot.

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WiFi storage? by bobthemuse · 2003-11-16 04:44 · Score: 5, Interesting

What I'd like to see is a WiFi memory stick which emulates local storage. Allows you to connect to and store your photos on a PC in range. If the power consumption and security concerns were addressed, professional photographers could transmit their photos to a nearby laptop, eliminating the need for a bulky storage device on the waist or frequently swapping memory cards.

I wonder what such a thing would do for write times? I've been told that the delay between pictures on high-end digital cameras was due to solid state memory write times, would an 11mbit link solve this?

Re:WiFi storage? by cloudmaster · 2003-11-16 04:48 · Score: 4, Informative

I've found that my cameraapearently writes to an internal buffer and then copies from that buffer to the memory card. Moving to higher-speed cards hasn't affected the delay between shots (or tha maximum recoardable video size) because the buffer, I'm guessing, was designed with the speed of slower flash memory in mind.

Do with that what you may, but the wireless "virtual file system" wouldn't help much in that case.
Re:WiFi storage? by Cecil · 2003-11-16 05:06 · Score: 1

Sounds like a nifty application for Bluetooth at least.

Unfortunately, they're much too busy putting Bluetooth into cellphones so you can send IMs to your friends who are sitting next to you, because your mouth is not 'cool' enough or something. And then they complain that no one buys bluetooth phones. God forbid they do something actually useful with it.

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Re:WiFi storage? by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 05:10 · Score: 1, Informative

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/nikond2h/

already done.

"Optional WT-1 Wireless Transmitter (802.11b) - This is significant news, the ability for the D2H to transmit images directly back to a laptop or server is an important step forward for the implementation of this camera in a fast moving environment (such as sports events). The WT-1 unit connects to the camera via the USB 2.0 port and tripod screw, connectors on the camera base provide power from the camera's battery. The camera uses the WT-1 to send images back via FTP, they are written to the card first and sent in a selectable format (JPEG/RAW) to the designated FTP server."

scary part is that this camera can do "8 fps up to 40 images"

add up those file sizes over 802.11b
Re:WiFi storage? by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 05:12 · Score: 0

That is how the wifi addon (WT-1) to the Nikon D2H work. http://www.dpreview.com/articles/nikond2h/
Re:WiFi storage? by spectre_240sx · 2003-11-16 05:30 · Score: 1

I don't know about that. I've been wanting a bluetooth phone for some time now just for the ease of transferring contacts and messages between my computer and my phone. Unfortunately I live in a state (maine) where we're so bass akwards that we're still using TDMA *rolls eyes*
Re:WiFi storage? by mrseigen · 2003-11-16 08:46 · Score: 1

Huh. And here I thought having a cell phone that doubles as an iTunes remote was useful.
Re:WiFi storage? by pdbaby · 2003-11-16 13:53 · Score: 0

Unfortunately, images from high-end cameras (such as the Canon EOS-1Ds) can be very large: at 11mpixels, RAW data is in excess of 40MB.
The EOS-1Ds can shoot at 3fps, meaning that there is well in excess of 100MB/sec requirement, potentially.
You would need quite a hefty wireless link to deal with this: certainly not 802.11b. Currently, as mentioned, high-end cameras use a buffer (meaning that the EOS-1Ds can take up to 10 shots at 3fps).

For lower-end few mpixel cameras it'd be possible, but I imagine cost-prohibitive (and not too useful for most consumers).

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Re:WiFi storage? by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-17 05:17 · Score: 0

>Allows you to connect to and store your photos on a PC in range

Surely you just need this WiFi card and a suitable client such as SMBMate.
Re:WiFi storage? by bobthemuse · 2003-11-17 07:44 · Score: 1

No, as this card doesn't emulate a local storage device. Rather it is a communication device, which most cameras don't know how to talk to.

Uses... by wed128 · 2003-11-16 04:44 · Score: 4, Interesting

would this enable memory stick-enabled devices such as mp3 players or cameras to exchange data wirelessly, or allow you to use a memory stick without plugging it in...the former allows for quite interesting uses...

for instance...use the 802.11 memorystick in your car for instant mp3s playing through your car stereo...walk inside and the song continues...

no more need for the "kodak" style camera dock for instant picture posting to the internet, either.

Re:Uses... by zaffir · 2003-11-16 04:54 · Score: 1

I'm wondering if i can use it in my 3 year old Sony Clie.

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Re:Uses... by skinfitz · 2003-11-16 04:56 · Score: 1

No silly that would make sense and would involve copying.
Re:Uses... by brainiac · 2003-11-16 05:15 · Score: 1

I don't thinks so. It says that it runs under PalmOS 5.0, and we have 4.0 :(
Re:Uses... by pdbaby · 2003-11-16 13:58 · Score: 0

I did a load of research and according to some people who seem to be smarter than me, it's not possible to get 802.11b on my clie running PalmOS 4.1. It's a great time to upgrade to a pocket pc -- plus, it's easy enough to get linux running on them (mm... mobile python)

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If it hasn't got 802.11G TURBO by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 04:46 · Score: 0, Funny

from Atheros, I don't want it. That is some sweet technology, right there.

Oh the possibilities... by MoeMoe · 2003-11-16 04:47 · Score: 5, Funny

I can see it now...

Father: Hey son, come take a look at all the new pictures we took from our trip

Son: Ummm, dad that may not be such a good idea.

Father: Hmmmmm, there seems to be another memory stick in the area, it's probably from your mothers camera, let's have a look...

Son: NO DAD DON'T!

Father: Son, where did this picture of our dog taking a bong hit come from?

Son: Ummmmmm.... it's moms camera, ask her...

**Son runs off and moves out of the country**

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Re:Oh the possibilities... by wed128 · 2003-11-16 04:49 · Score: 1

i'm sure they would use some sort of authentication scheme to prevent this sort of thing...so you couldn't see your neighbors pics and stuff...
Re:Oh the possibilities... by MoeMoe · 2003-11-16 04:57 · Score: 2, Interesting

But there in lies the problem. How many people save passwords and other means of authentication for personal use into their local computers without giving any thought to what information may be derived from it when another person in the vicinity may gain access to said computer?

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Re:Oh the possibilities... by freeweed · 2003-11-16 05:04 · Score: 1

Man, you know you haven't been out of the house enough when... I really thought you were going somewhere else (read: worse). Son, Mom, doesn't want Dad to see...

I really need to get out of here ;)

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Re:Oh the possibilities... by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 05:10 · Score: 0

Don't wanna whore so I'll post anonymously, maybe you're right... Next 802.11 product will have a more... interesting twist ;) hehehe

Very convenient... by zeux · 2003-11-16 04:52 · Score: 5, Insightful

I wonder if we could use it as an identification device.

You wlak to your door, it connects to the key, check you ID an open itself. Same for cars and so on.

Also you could use it to exchange your contact information (phone number, address, etc) to someone who has another stick.

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Re:Very convenient... by epall · 2003-11-16 05:23 · Score: 1

That's more of a Bluetooth application. There has been a Bluetooth memory stick around for a while. I agree completely with what you want, I just think there's a better technology for this.
Re:Very convenient... by penguin7of9 · 2003-11-16 05:26 · Score: 1

There are various short-range wireless technologies for that, including a short-range version of Bluetooth (1ft range). WiFi makes little sense--too long range and too power hungry.
Re:Very convenient... by Canadian_Daemon · 2003-11-16 06:23 · Score: 0

im thinking wifi would be overkill on that. How about the *first* non invasive use for RFID?

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Re:Very convenient... by pdbaby · 2003-11-16 14:02 · Score: 0

Also you could use it to exchange your contact information (phone number, address, etc) to someone who has another stick.
Great opportunity for big mistakes: given that most users make mistakes easily, you'd end up beaming your keys to "Bob the auto guy".
On the other hand, changing the locks would be easier; mm... security through obscurity

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Re:Very convenient... by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 17:27 · Score: 0

1ft is worthless! IR can do at least 5ft! (exchanging business cards anyway)

man. by mcpkaaos · 2003-11-16 04:53 · Score: 4, Funny

With all these new wireless products for the home, I'm going to have to start wearing my tin foil hat indoors, too!

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So what's next ? by Space+cowboy · 2003-11-16 04:55 · Score: 1

Hard drives ? Backup your machine by dumping an external box somewhere close to your machine. Auto sync. Auto-run-backup...

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Do you know... by zeux · 2003-11-16 04:55 · Score: 1

if one stick can connect to another and exchange data directly ?

I don't think so because we would have no way to control what happens, but I can foresee here many applications...

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Now we just need..... by suyashs · 2003-11-16 04:55 · Score: 1

a VLC client for Palm OS 5...by the way, do you think this will work with a Memory Stick enabled TV? I doubt it since the TV runs an internal OS, but it would be very nice to hack that firmware and make a VLC like player built in to the TV.......nevermind. I'm dreaming again....

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I thinking more along the lines of WIFI for... by Svartalf · 2003-11-16 04:57 · Score: 1

...their Clie PDA line, since they use MemorySticks only on them.

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Typical Sony by Fubar411 · 2003-11-16 04:57 · Score: 1, Flamebait

Once again, Sony creates a problem by creating a proprietary standard. How long have we had CF WiFi adapters? SD WiFi are coming out, getting better among the manufacturers. While I love Sony's quality, I prefer the cheaper CF storage and adapters. Good for Sony for putting CF on its high end PDA, but I can't believe they disabled them for storage.

Re:Typical Sony by epall · 2003-11-16 05:19 · Score: 2, Informative

Fortunately, Athena America (previously EruWare) had made a CF memory driver. Now, despite Sony's annoying attempt to cripple their CF slot, you can use CF memory cards!

Will Wi-fi kill Bluetooth? by msgmonkey · 2003-11-16 05:03 · Score: 1, Insightful

It seems to me that Wi-fi is appearing in places where you would expect bluetooth to be, granted it is not as fast as 802.11b but I cant help but get the feeling that with low-range/low-power chipsets arriving all the time 802.11b could kill bluetooth.

Re:Will Wi-fi kill Bluetooth? by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 05:23 · Score: 0

Yes, bluetooth pretty much sucks. It's ok for keyboards and mice, tho.
Re:Will Wi-fi kill Bluetooth? by mcdade · 2003-11-16 05:35 · Score: 1

Bluetooth is dead.

didn't you get the memo??
Re:Will Wi-fi kill Bluetooth? by NineNine · 2003-11-16 05:51 · Score: 1

Bluetooth is still around? Jesus, how many wireless "standards" are there? Next thing you know, computer will come bristling with 15 antennas just to keep up with every new "standard". There's no room in the consumer market for more than one wireless "standard".
Re:Will Wi-fi kill Bluetooth? by GlassUser · 2003-11-16 05:54 · Score: 1

They were SUPPOSED to do different things. What I figured out to tell people was to think of bluetooth as wireless USB and wifi as wireless ethernet. That usually worked well.

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Re:Will Wi-fi kill Bluetooth? by ElGuapoGolf · 2003-11-16 06:15 · Score: 1

Bluetooth, ya see, isn't going anywhere. How do I know this? Because when a "standard" is optional on a lot of new cars, it's entrenched.

I'd love to see them shove 802.11 into a car. But then again, that's not what it was designed for. It is a great application for bluetooth.
Re:Will Wi-fi kill Bluetooth? by NineNine · 2003-11-16 06:33 · Score: 1

Bluetooth in cars? What cars? I've never heard of that. That sounds incredibly frivolous.
Re:Will Wi-fi kill Bluetooth? by ElGuapoGolf · 2003-11-16 08:54 · Score: 2, Insightful

I know some Toyotas, some Audis, etc have bluetooth.

And frivolous? Yeah, I guess if the idea of having your cellphone patch into your car's audio system sounds frivolous to you. I guess if the idea of not having people fumbling with phones as they drive down the parkway sounds frivolous to you. To me, it sounds like a pretty good idea.
Re:Will Wi-fi kill Bluetooth? by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 11:06 · Score: 0

If they drive on the parkway, do they park on the driveway?

Yet more open files to access... by zx-6e · 2003-11-16 05:04 · Score: 1

And this is a good thing because?

What kind of DRM by Anonnymous+Coward · 2003-11-16 05:05 · Score: 2, Insightful

crap is included? I wouldn't trust Sony any farther than I could throw them.

Re:What kind of DRM by ambienceman · 2003-11-16 05:12 · Score: 1, Offtopic

yeah. they lost my trust when I found out that I couldn't reload songs transfer to my MD back to my PC. What if I recorded a show or something. I'd have to lose more quality by using the line-in jack on my computer...

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Re:What kind of DRM by epall · 2003-11-16 05:16 · Score: 2, Informative

Um, it's not a sony product. Thus, there's no DRM crap. This is a 3rd party trying to circumvent Sony's stranglehold on which CLIEs have WiFi.
Re:What kind of DRM by Anonnymous+Coward · 2003-11-16 05:37 · Score: 1

Whoops. Guess I should have RTFA, or at least RTFP.
Re:What kind of DRM by Anonnymous+Coward · 2003-11-16 05:56 · Score: 1

Who's the Sony-loving DRM toady that modded that down? Show yourself!
Intellectual property is theft.
Re:What kind of DRM by Keith+Russell · 2003-11-17 04:35 · Score: 1

Um, it's not a sony product. Thus, there's no DRM crap.

Even if it was a Sony, it wouldn't have DRM. It's a network adapter. How can you put DRM in a network adapter and still conform to the standard?

This is a 3rd party trying to circumvent Sony's stranglehold on which CLIEs have WiFi.

When Compaq only puts 802.11b in select iPaqs, it's product differentiation. When Sony does it, it's a "stranglehold"? Please. If you like to hate Sony, at least hate them for the right reasons. If people really wanted wireless networking in Clies, a wi-fi Memory Stick would have happened sooner.

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Excellent! by jarran · 2003-11-16 05:10 · Score: 5, Funny

Fantastic for those of us who always lose things.

If we could increase the speed of wireless networking by a few orders of magnitude, and invent wireless power, we could build entire computers this way. Imagine being able to upgrade your computer by buying a new CPU and just sticking it in your house "somewhere". :)

Or even better, just swipe the spare cycles from the luser next door who forgot to check the "don't let my neighbours use my stuff" box.

Re:Excellent! by addaon · 2003-11-16 20:06 · Score: 1

Speed of light sucks, doesn't it?

There's more to life than bandwidth. Latency does matter.

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Soooo by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 05:12 · Score: 0

What the hell is a memory stick slot and how much does it hold?

Re:Soooo by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 05:44 · Score: 0

it holds my cock stuck up your anus

How about an SD 802.11? by nurb432 · 2003-11-16 05:15 · Score: 1

Ive only been able to find ONE of those out there.. Rather expensive, and from a company i dont know diddly about...

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Re:How about an SD 802.11? by Tekmage · 2003-11-16 09:22 · Score: 1

Mobile Planet has listing for one by SanDisk and another by Socket.

...they also carry the Hagiwara Sys-Com card.

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Re:How about an SD 802.11? by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-17 05:25 · Score: 0

none of which work with Palm .... yet

not really by mabhatter654 · 2003-11-16 05:23 · Score: 1

It's a third party "itch" to scratch. The high-end sony's all come with integrated bluetooth and a memory stick nowdays anyway. I could have swore that the store already has a sony version "right now" for sale anyway.

Wow, Sony's Memory Stick is still behind by Cecil · 2003-11-16 05:23 · Score: 3, Insightful

So there have been SecureDigital cards which do this for awhile now, and CompactFlash cards for longer still.

That's right Sony, keep dragging Memory Stick down the road in the hopes that you'll someday catch up to everyone else. It is possible -- you do have enough money to blow, right?

Memory Sticks are retarded. Less features, smaller capacity, more price, harder to find. I'd never buy anything that uses them. Not that I care for SD cards either. There's nothing wrong with CF, it's in more devices, and it's large enough to have IBM Microdrives.

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Re:Wow, Sony's Memory Stick is still behind by owlstead · 2003-11-16 05:56 · Score: 2, Informative

and it's large enough to have IBM Microdrives.

No it is not. You need a double thick CF slot to put a microdrive in. Besides, microdrives will be out of the picture it flash memory keeps scaling the way it does.

Microdrives currently are only interesting for professionals. And even those would be carrying something to copy their digital photo's onto anyway.

Note that every Sonly memory stick is priced about 30 euro's above comparable memory slot devices in NL. IMHO, they can stick it up ...
Re:Wow, Sony's Memory Stick is still behind by GlassUser · 2003-11-16 05:57 · Score: 3, Interesting

It's also built on existing standards. SD is pretty open, but all by itself. Memorystick is propriety garbage. What I like about CF is that you can trace it directly through PC-card, IDE, and ISA - all you need are pinout converters. For example, you can plug a CF card into an IDE socket with just a dumb pin converter. Same thing for PC cards (of course, the average IDE controller only recognizes ATA mass storage, but oh well). The only problem is that it's soon going to be too slow to keep up well.

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Re:Wow, Sony's Memory Stick is still behind by moreati · 2003-11-16 06:50 · Score: 1

CF is cool, it hits the sweet spot between size and features for a mobile device nicely. It's also nice that the same card will store mp3s and boot a computer.

Something I've wondered for a while though - could an adaptor be made allowing a CF host (ie a Zaurus or Ipaq) to talk to a full blown IDE hard drive. Obviously the speed would suck compared to an IDE controller, but it would be cool.

Do you know if this has been, or could be done?

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Re:Wow, Sony's Memory Stick is still behind by GlassUser · 2003-11-16 08:20 · Score: 1

I'm 90% sure it could be done, you'd just have to add extra power.

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Short answer: no by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 05:24 · Score: 2, Insightful

Long answer: no, because BlueTooth uses much less power than 802.11b.

Any other questions?

Re:Short answer: no by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 05:41 · Score: 0

> Any other questions?

Yes, will this whole memory thing clog up other 802.11B networks? Secondly, can I suck your cock?
Re:Short answer: no by msgmonkey · 2003-11-16 06:05 · Score: 1

That's why I said low-power/low-range, you already have chipsets that can limit their range to as low as 1m and use lower data rates.

A little off topic: Bluetooth by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 05:50 · Score: 0

I want a bluetooth SD card on my Tungsten|C (PalmOS5)!!

Bastards still haven't released one.

Effective Range/Bandwidth? by xanthines-R-yummy · 2003-11-16 06:21 · Score: 2, Informative

Tom's has an article detailing the poor range and dreaddully slow connection rates of the SD Wifi card. Anyone know if the memory stick is going to be plagued by the same problems? I can't imagine Sony will have solved them for "the stick."

Re:Effective Range/Bandwidth? by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 06:51 · Score: 0

Connection rates are probably affected by the slow link that SD cards have (MMC's, which are very similar in nature, bog down the device that uses them as you add files to a large MMC- there is no limit on an eBookman or Palm reading an MMC/SD, but the practical limit is something like 64Mb as the 128's and larger are almost unusable (as in painfully slow accessing the card's contents...) once you exceed the 64Mb mark on the flash. I honestly don't envision this being a barn-burner because a MemoryStick is yet another similar design. As for range, well, look at the antenna patch on these things- it's itty-bitty. That makes for an electrically small antenna for the frequencies being used, which dramatically reduces the effective range on them.

No integrated memory = no buy by insanegadgets.com · 2003-11-16 06:33 · Score: 1

Unless this has upwards of 128MB included then its just completely useless.

Bluetooth is dead, just like MiniDisc by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 06:53 · Score: 0

And once again, only the Americans got the memo...

You mean... by MsGeek · 2003-11-16 07:33 · Score: 1

...something like this?

It's really tempting, although the ironic thing is that my refurbed m125 cost half the price of this case/802.11b docking system. Yeah, WiFi would suck copious amounts of battery life from my poor m125...it eats batteries as it is for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I wonder if a Bluetooth SDIO card has a similarly voracious appetite...my soon-come Ericsson cell phone has not only Bluetooth but a built-in cell modem.

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Re:You mean... by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 17:20 · Score: 0

bluetooth was designed for low power devices. that's why it's range is smaller. 802.11b just sucks with handhelds. (figuratively and literally.)

"Smaller than a stick of chewing gum" by Ilan+Volow · 2003-11-16 07:48 · Score: 1

Now this only further lends credence to my fear that one day my PDA will lose wi-fi connectivity followed by my friend telling me my fancy pez dispenser has the worst gum he's ever tasted.

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Already exists by JaredOfEuropa · 2003-11-16 08:05 · Score: 1

I believe Mercedes and certain Renault models already use this technique, altough they use RFID tags rather than a Bluetooth device

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Re:Already exists by joshuac · 2003-11-16 14:03 · Score: 1

Also Chevrolet (and probably other GM divisions) have been doing this over a decade.

SD Card version too... by aitsu · 2003-11-16 09:20 · Score: 1

IIRC, the manufacturer also has an SD Card 802.11b device that works with PalmOS 4.x upward. Bit odd considering that there's not a single PalmOS 4.x device that I can think of which supports an SD Card slot. OTOH, I mailed them asking to support PalmOS4.x with their MemoryStick device - benefitting users of slightly older Clies like my NR70 - but it would seem the request fell on deaf ears.

Re:SD Card version too... by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-16 13:18 · Score: 0

IIRC, the manufacturer also has an SD Card 802.11b device that works with PalmOS 4.x upward. Bit odd considering that there's not a single PalmOS 4.x device that I can think of which supports an SD Card slot. OTOH, I mailed them asking to support PalmOS4.x with their MemoryStick device - benefitting users of slightly older Clies like my NR70 - but it would seem the request fell on deaf ears.

My Treo 90 runs PalmOS 4.1 and fully supports SDIO. I waited since *JANUARY* for the Socket/Sandisk card to come out, with the companies stating that it would support 4.x Palm devices. To my frustration, they dropped support. Along those lines, why haven't we seen support for PalmOS at all from Sandisk or Socket SD WiFi devices? Sandisk's site states that Palm support would be released Fall 2003. Hmmm, it's nearing December and there's no driver release. Perhaps our Redmonian friends are keeping Palm devices off the 802.11 airwaves?

I emailed Sandisk about PalmOS 4 support and, you guessed it, they said support was cut. If Hagiwara can produce an SDIO 802.11b card with 4.x drivers, they've got my money.
Re:SD Card version too... by aitsu · 2003-11-16 16:08 · Score: 1

Well, it's still vaporware but they did/do indeed plan an SD version with 4.x support, at least according to this. Q3/2003, it says. Right.

Palm OS 4 Memory Stick WiFi by digitalgimpus · 2003-11-16 11:07 · Score: 1

They would make a lot of money selling WiFi cards for OS 4 Palm's. The T, SJ series were very successful, yet Palm OS 4 only. Many still exist. Many (like myself) who don't want to upgrade, but want WiFi.

I would gladly pay some cash for a Palm OS 4 compatible MS card. Would be great to get email, IM, etc. on the go.

Re:Palm OS 4 Memory Stick WiFi by Anonymous Coward · 2003-11-17 05:13 · Score: 0

you could try the enfora case ..

http://www.enfora.com/

Dyslexics untie... by HiggsBison · 2003-11-16 14:58 · Score: 1

Am I the only one who read that as:

Memory for CLUE sticks

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