Kasparov Wins Game 3 Against X3D Fritz

Vulcao writes "Garry Kasparov just brilliantly won game 3 in the Kasparov vs. X3D Fritz chess match, which pits man against machine. Kasparov created a positional advantage on the queen side with a very strong pawn structure to which Fritz didn't have an answer. The result is now 1.5 - 1.5, and the last game will be this Tuesday, Nov. 18."

Comments

For those who wish to bet...

[r_glen]

Sorry Gary, my money's on the computer

Checkmate

[lewko]

Subsequently, Kasparov created a positional advantage on the human side with
a very strong finger pointed at the reset button to which Fritz didn't have an answer.

Re:Checkmate

[zeux]

Subsequently, Kasparov created a positional advantage on the human side with
a very strong finger pointed at the reset button to which Fritz didn't have an answer.

Actually, that would be the ultimate proof of winning for Fritz.

Re:Checkmate

[Wylfing]

Subsequently, Kasparov created a positional advantage on the human side with a very strong finger pointed at the reset button to which Fritz didn't have an answer.

And that is why Fritz sent a Terminator back in time, to get rid of Kasparov before he was born.

Re:Checkmate

[NeoPotato]

And that is why Fritz sent a Terminator back in time, to get rid of Kasparov before he was born.

Except Deep Blue, Kasparov's original nemesis, is sent back to protect him!

There's the human advantage exposed right there

[Rosco P. Coltrane]

Kasparov created a positional advantage on the queen side with a very strong pawn structure to which Fritz didn't have an answer.

Well, what can poor Fritz, a cold emotionless computer, do when a handsome russian stallion of a man puts his pawn on the queen's side? Of course he didn't have an answer ...

Re:There's the human advantage exposed right there

[AbbyNormal]

Silly Chess players. When will they learn that it is not the Strength of your pawn structure, but how well you use it.

Re:Just goes to show

[spektr]

People learn faster than machines.

No, they just saw this stuff on TV. Once Fritz gains access to the Star Trek archives he won't again be so easily distracted and outplayed by Kasparov using his secret weapon: "how do you feel?".

Kasparov's Comment

[BinBoy]

Kasparov: pwned!

Programmer: No way! Look at my ping. It was lag!

Battle chess

[zokum]

So, does anyone know when all this fancy AI will be backported into Battle Chess?

Re:Battle chess

[whiteranger99x]

To hell with Battle Chess, I say put it in Archon!!! >:)

Re:Only a matter of time..

[Rosco P. Coltrane]

given a finite amount of time the human brain can figure out how to solve any problem.

Okay, I give you 10 seconds to demonstrate the Fermat theorem : 1..2..3 ...

Imho computers are 100 years too early to even compete with the human brain

[/me checks the date]
No, I knew I was right, it is 2003.

Re:Eight Pawn Chess

[Rosco P. Coltrane]

I wanted to play because I was humilated at getting beat by the chessmaster on Nintendo.

Good thing you latched on the chess game cartridge, otherwise you'd have grown a moustache, started wearing red overalls and sporting a strong Italien accent, and become a plumber ...

Re:The game of Go ?

[nodwick]

I think it's a knee-jerk reflex against an inferiority complex. I mean, sure, they can beat us at chess, but what about GO?

Kinda like how your average Slashdotter watching the crowd go wild over Barry Bonds breaking the home run record is secretly thinking, "Oh sure, but can he put together a Beowulf cluster of Linux boxes?"

Re:The game of Go ?

[Lars T.]

And even with quantum computing, Go computers won't be beating humans anytime soon.

Especially with quantum computing, Go computers won't be beating humans anytime soon.

Human

[cfuse]

Does Kasparov play human beings anymore? or is he too good for us?

Re:Human

[Craig3010]

After he discovered Tara Patrick's Virtual Sex With Me, he doesn't give a damn about human interaction.

It's not like I rode the Short Bus to school

[teamhasnoi]

but I have a long history of getting my ass kicked at chess. The only time I *ever* beat a computer at chess was when I played the easiest level on Chessmaster 2100 on my Apple IIgs. I celebrated for days.

I played chess all the time with pals about 10 years ago. We were all at about the same level of bad. I thought I would prove my chess-skilz one day and played some guy at the local coffeeshop. After 3 moves, I was checkmated. My middle eastern opponent turned to my friend and said, "Your friend is stupid. I will not play him again.", swept all the pieces off the board, got up, shook his head and left.

That stung. So You Go Gary! I must live vicariously through you! Kick some ass! Then I must go back to OS X gnuChess which mocks me every time I play, "You are stupid. I will not play you again."

/me weeps into hands.

Re:It's not like I rode the Short Bus to school

[geekoid]

haha, thats is a damn funny story.

I remember one time, I was tossing darts, and won a game of cricket in the fewest possible throws.
By the time I was on my last toss, everybody in the bar was gathered around. My last toss landed perectly, the crowd goes wild. I had a great reputation, free drinks when I retold that story, and I never, ever, threw darts anywhere near that bar again. heh.

A matter of fact, about 10 years latter, I meet a guy at agaming clubg. He kept looking at me funny. Then one day he looks at me and runs off. about 30 minutes latter he returns. Turned out his father was the guy a beat, and gave him a picture of me tossing that last dart. the caption:
"With practice comes perfection."

I was laughing so hard, I had tears rolling down my cheeks.

Re:The game of Go ?

[wfberg]

We haven't built a robot to play tennis either, tennis is simply a different problem with a much much larger data set, just like go.

A simple wall-shaped opponent pressed right against the net, with a large enough surface area, will beat any opponent. Well, maybe with a hole in there for serving.

A chess game with a 19x19 board would send a computer into shock too.

Less so than Go, since with Go the number of possible moves at each junction in time is larger than in chess - Go on a chess-sized board still features a larger search space than chess. Just like 110 in binary is less than 110 in decimal.

maybe Kasparov should be an Action Ranger

[dandelion_wine]

Al Gore: You already know Stephen Hawking. Also with us is Nichelle Nichols a.k.a. Commander Uhura.

Nichols: Incoming transmission from MCI one rate department. It sounds like a limited time offer.

Gore: Tell them I'm in the tub! To my left you'll recognise Gary Gygax, inventor of dungeons and dragons.

Gygax: Greetings! It's a...[rolls dice.]...pleasure to meet you!

Gore: And our summer intern, Deep Blue. The world's foremost chess playing computer.

Deep Blue: Bishop to knight 4.

Gore: Not all missions can be solved with chess, Deep Blue. Someday you'll understand that.

Re:The revolution will not be televised.

[porp]

During the first match they went over 30 minutes and then moved over to ESPNEWS. Though they still cut into the match to show regular ESPNEWS highlight crap, they showed the majority of the match. I expect Tuesday's coverage to be similar. The match today just happened to coincide with NFL Sunday, and there are millions of people that watch ESPNEWS for news conferences and such. I just wish they would have not opted to show Women's College Hoops instead on ESPN2. I guess they were surprised by the large number of viewers the match garnered.

porp

Re:Eight Pawn Chess

[Craig3010]

Yeah and 3 Card Monte REALLY confuses the fuck out of them

Re:The game of Go ?

[Anonymous Coward]

It's a sad world when one has an inferiority complex against a database.

Re:The game of Go ?

[terrab0t]

Okay, so to summarize the first page of that, if I don't want to be humiliated by a machine, I should challenge it to a game of go.

Honestly, a friend of mine heard about Deep Blue and wondered why there haven't been attempts to make the perfect machine player at other games and sports. Like wrestling. I bet you could make a machine that would destroy any wrestler stupid enough to tackle it.

My favorite was the ultimate bowling machine. We actually designed this while sitting in the car talking. You take a ramp, put the ball at the top and line it up so that it points just left of the center pin, and you've got a world champion! Go machines!

Re:The game of Go ?

[syle]

"The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how much I play, I'll never be as good a a wall. I played a wall once. They're fucking relentless...." --Mitch Hedberg

Re:The game of Go ?

[Anonymous Coward]

(that said, I have no idea how hard it is to evaluate a Go position)

As someone who is right now having his ass handed to him by the GNU Go Engine, I would answer "much harder than I imagined an hour ago".

YLFI

Does this mean

[boatboy]

Does this mean Gary could be The One? (spoiler) I expect him to lay down and feed himself to X3D to save us all.

Re:a different strategy

[RevMike]

In game two, Kasparov played the Berlin defence, which is a more closed game than the traditionally sharp Sicilian that Kasparov usually employs.

Inconceivable. After all, one should never enter a battle of wits with a Sicilian, especially when death is on the line. It is the second greatest strategic blunder, the first being "Never get into a land war in Asia."