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Wal-Mart to Offer Wal-Mart Notebooks
ducomputergeek writes "Cnet News.com is running an article that Wal-Mart plans to launch its own line of notebook computers. I wonder if these will run Lindows or XP. We've purchased a couple low cost boxes with no OS's for cheap file servers and they've worked pretty well."
They are rebranded machines from Asia, so expect about the same level of linux/*BSD/etc support as any other obscure lowest bidder import type of notebook (kludgy but improving). It will be interesting to see if this takes off though. Laptops are, for many people, more of a fashion accessory than a computing device (think marketroid/execubot wannabe gearheads). Walmart brand laptop wouldn't have the same fashion value as a "Ubertron Mega Wassus 90009".
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"For the same reason Dell and Gateway can get TVs, there's no reason Wal-Mart can't get computers," Baker said.
I really hope Wal-Mart decides to sell notebooks with both Lindows and Windows. It will never be mentioned in the press, but many people would buy the cheaper of the two, then chuck Lindows and replace it with a pirated copy of Windows.
Microsoft will no doubt fight this tooth and nail. They know that seeing two identical machines side by side in Wal-Mart, people will see how expensive Windows really is. Then there will be more reason to mainstream more Linux software, especially games.
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Alienware and Sager both already sell Clevo laptops as their own house brand (after neon spraypaint, etc.). Pretty good units, so a Walmart-branded one might be an OK computer.
There are already comments whining about Walmart quality - how much differentiation is there among the vast majority of PC's today anyhow? Sure there's always premium gear, but most of the stuff for sale in stores, whether it says WalMart, HP, or Dell on it is all low-end gear designed for price, and will probably last out its useful lifecycle.
It is surprising how WalMart is making the high-tech play; netflix, itunes, now laptops, yet they've skipped consumer electronics (no walmart-branded TV's, DVD players, etc.). Their other areas for house brands are clothing and pharmaceuticals - seems like they target areas where they think there is alot of profit, and try to take some fat out of it.
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I'd like to see a sturdy notebook computer with a reflective grayscale display and a serious underclocked processor. In this day and age 'severely underclocked' could mean that it had a 400 MHz chip. A reflective grayscale display combined with 'underclocking' would give it one HELL of a lot longer battery life, and it'd give us geeks who care less about glitz a hell of a machine. I still cling to my Toshiba 2105, the last great grayscale 486 laptop.
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It is immensely difficult to compete with a corporation that gets massive amounts of government assistance in tax incentives and loans. The idea that Walmart won in the marketplace isn't true. They beg local governments for preferntial treatment in everything from tax treatment to land zoning. These are the reason Walmarts prices can get so low. Corporate welfare for the largest retailer in the world.
How quickly we have all forgotten, from just weeks ago, Walmart's hiring of illegal aliens too.
You aren't kidding.
I just built a Linux computer for my parents (dad's an older guy in his 60's) instead of a windows machine... and it's precisely because of the software cost.
A little shuttle cube, duron processor, 512 of RAM, 160GB drive, DVD/CD-RW combo drive... all for under 500 bucks. When he wanted windows, I informed him that his OS, office suite, and antivirus would almost double the cost of his computer... I did a quick assessment and realized he could do all the stuff he wanted on Linux (including utilize a USB printer and a USB scanner). I even set it up so I can administer it remotely via SSH (or even webmin tunneled over SSH if I'm feeling really lazy).
Needless to say, my mother and father are now big fans. I say good for Walmart if they want to market machines with linux and windows side-by-side... I'd like to see the sales numbers on that deal.
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<sarcasm>I can't agree more; and I completely trust Walmart's religious convictions, and the decisions they make to censor their product lines based on these convictions.</sarcasm>
Remember, America, the notion of free speech and free choice has meaning only so long as the citizenry has the ability excercise them. Without this ability, these rights become nothing more than wishful thinking on some pretty paper in a fancy library.
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As long as it can boot Linux, who cares? I could easily put a Tux sticker over the logo.
Another poster was modded redundant for saying this, but come on, as long as it works in Linux and is cheaper than a "real" brand, who cares?
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Wal-Mart is the Microsoft of stores. Wal-Mart is crushing American companies. They demand lower prices, forcing American companies to outsource overseas, causing losses of American jobs. If they cannot or will not cut the prices to levels that require slave labor, Wal-Mart goes to overseas companies. The result? Americans who shop at Wal-Mart are shopping themselves out of a job.
Interesting to see if they need Microsoft more or less than Microsoft needs them for this product.
As long as it can boot Linux, who cares? I could easily put a Tux sticker over the logo.
The businesses who cant cut their unit price low enough for WalMart to give them the time of day, thats who.
WalMart doesn't have low-low prices everyday because they like you. They've got these prices because they can pressure businesses into cutting their prices so low they barely make anything.
"If Wal-Mart, which sells PCs from companies such as Hewlett-Packard and eMachines, moves into the notebook market successfully, it could send ripples across the PC industry. The retailer's typically aggressive pricing could compel manufacturers such as Dell, HP and Toshiba to reduce their notebook prices in response, analysts said."
... commodity commodity commodity commodity "
I KNOW there are people who hate Walmart, but I don't. Any store that forces hardware prices down to closer to manufacturing cost is fine by me. Over priced hardware has made over price software viable for far too long. I want to PAY for true innovation and pay commodity prices for things that have long since become commodities.
Picture a big fat guy dancing around on stage clapping his hands:
"commodity commodity commodity commodity
"Give it up for MEEEEE"
Because clearly, anyone who is against corporate strongarming must be living off mommy and daddy.
Guess what, junior? I'm 23, live completely off my own buck and have since I was 17, and I still have the balls to stand against a corporation that abuses capitalism.
You can cry about the poor businesses all you want, but I don't think you will hear anyone who shops there complain. A lot of working families are a heck of a lot better off because discount stores like walmart help them stretch their dollars farther. Forcing someone else to pay more than is necessary for something so someone else can make more isn't necessarily a noble thing. These cheaper goods mean a lower cost of living for a great many people and thats a big benefit you can't ignore.
They don't complain, but they probably should.
The reason many consumers are so desperate for Wal-Mart's "Low, Low Prices" is because the ever-increasing demand for said prices has priced most of American manufacturing labor out of the market. Eventually, there will come a point where there just isn't enough money in consumer pockets to make it worth Wal-Mart's time to sell to American consumers. At that point, they'll just take the money they sucked out of the economy and go elsewhere.
Wal-Mart destroys local competitors, eliminating jobs. Wal-Mart puts the hammerlock on its suppliers, forcing them to continue finding ways to lower their costs. Eventually, the only fat left to trim is the luxury of using "expensive" American labor instead of labor from countries that don't have pesky things like "minimum wage," "occupational safety," "environmental regulations," and the like. Wal-Mart even screws over its own employees, merrily cutting benefits even as their profits continue to climb.
No, the average family shopping at Wal-Mart is simply going to be grateful that they can get stuff for so little. They don't realize that the low prices are a result of the same forces that have been taking money out of their pocket.
You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!
I guess you can't be bothered to worry about whether your clothes were made by a seven year old Bangalori kid working fourteen hour days either, or that the few bucks you saved on that DVD player might have been saved by a company moving its manufacturing jobs to a country that has a more "business-friendly" view of environmental and worker safety regulations.
I could comprehend this sort of ethical myopia if it were regarding some necessity of life. If my personal survival depended on Wal-Mart keeping its prices low, I probably wouldn't care how they did it. But to refuse to worry about their business practices because they supply you with "cheap electronics?" I don't think the word "disgusting" begins to cover your attitude.
You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!
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3. +1, Informative.
Might I suggest the following:
"2. Check that the content is informative"?
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That is one of the most beautifully ironic statements I've ever seen on Slashdot.
If you read my original post, you'll see that I was speaking hypothetically. I honestly don't know which lines of clothing are produced under what working conditions. However, if presented with compelling evidence, I wouldn't ignore it.
Who am I to say what is ethical? I'm a firm believer in Kant's categorical imperatives. Specifically, the second: "Act that you use humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any other, always at the same time as an end, never merely as a means." I'm not opposed to helping the third world nations develop by giving them jobs. But I am opposed to the rampant corporate practice of using human beings as just another resource. Their goal is to extract as much labor from the world as they can, while giving back as little as they possibly can. It's a classic case of using another human being as a means to your own ends.
And I highly doubt that you're posting from a cramped hut in India, which you share with your seven brothers and sisters. Ignorant bastard from the rich world, indeed. If you have the time and connectivity required to post your angry, pointless vulgarities, you're probably as rich an ignorant bastard as I am.
You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!
If you read the history of the original catalog retailers, like Montgomery Wards and Sears, you will find that they were hated when they first started expanding, because they were killing small town stores (that had no competition and could keep prices high). They would organize catalog burnings. Now of course, Sears is struggling and Ward is gone. Things change, especially in retailing.
There are a number of other retailers you could throw in the "once seen as powerful destuctive forces, now pretty much gone" - Woolworth, K-Mart, A&P. All were seen as destroying "mom and pop" stores, and all are pretty much destroyed, or at least not nearly as powerful as they used to be.
Even now, Target seems to be beating the heck out of Wal-Mart. I know tons of people who shop at Target, myself included, while I know no walmart regulars.
So I predict that eventually something will replace walmart, in the same way it replaced a ton of businesses that "nobody could compete with".
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Fucking prick. The unions KEEP the labor here in the states. If it weren't for the fear of the unions' revenge, they'd drop those positions in a heartbeat.