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Retooling Slashdot with Web Standards

Joe Clark writes "Nearly a year after an interview with this correspondent highlighted a few problems with Slashdot's HTML, Daniel M. Frommelt and his posse have recoded a prototype of Slashdot that uses valid, semantic HTML and stylesheets. Frommelt projects four-figure bandwidth savings in the candidate redesign, were it adopted, not to mention better appearance in a wide range of browsers and improved accessibility. Next he needs volunteers to retool the Slashdot engine. And yes, he did it all with CmdrTaco's blessing." Slashdot has kept its HTML 3.2 design for a long time ("because it works"), but perhaps this effort will be a catalyst for change...

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  1. CTRL-R by mrpuffypants · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm all for it. If it makes /. load faster when I hit CTRL-R 10 times per half hour then I'd be very happy!

    On second thought, that could mean more time working. Scratch the idea.

    1. Re:CTRL-R by krisp · · Score: 4, Funny

      though, if you read the article, you'd know that the design is exactly the same, except the old HTML 3.2 was replaced with standards-compliant CSS.

      Then again, this is slashdot, and we don't read articles.

    2. Re:CTRL-R by the_other_one · · Score: 3, Funny

      What's an article?

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    3. Re:CTRL-R by ergo98 · · Score: 2, Funny

      And "an"?

    4. Re:CTRL-R by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I agree. Slashdot needs to promote more of its resources to helping the children of this community.

  2. *looks down* by Xerithane · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hell just froze over.

    Brr.

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    1. Re:*looks down* by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Funny

      Slashdot on IIS.

      HTTP/1.1 200 OK
      Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
      X-Powered-By: ASP.NET
      Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:09:02 GMT
      Content-Type: text/html
      Accept-Ranges: bytes
      Last-Modified: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:38:43 GMT
      ETag: "8036d049a6afc31:9a2"
      Content-Length: 33923

      Well, I never!

    2. Re:*looks down* by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Funny

      *looks down*

      Hell just froze over.

      Brr.


      Please, this isn't the proper thread to mention when you've got an erection. :-) But I'm glad it has finally happened for you too. I think the next step will be to go out to meet a girl. ;-)

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  3. Just another example of the Slashdot monopoly... by CSharpMinor · · Score: 5, Funny

    They're actually proud of this? That they went so many years without complying to HTML standards? It is obvious that Slashdot was just planning to break the HTML standard to force everyone to use Slashdot's "integrated" browser, Mozilla.

    This isn't the first time this has happened. Remember when BBS's became popular, and Slashdot "integrated" one into their site to kill any competition? Or all the times that Slashdot has brought down "competing" sites by linking to them, thereby safeguarding their website monopoly?

    It's a shame that the DoJ let them off for this....

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  4. universal access by kurosawdust · · Score: 5, Funny

    will this work for browsers for those with disabilities? I think its only fair, considering I clicked on slashdot Games article and am now freakin' blind.

  5. The prototype is slowing already by Amiga+Lover · · Score: 5, Funny

    The prototype is slowing already. You bastards! you slashdotted slashdot!

    1. Re:The prototype is slowing already by Maserati · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's worse than that, we've slashdotted future Slashdot. The implications for the time-space continuum are dire.

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  6. Wow, slashdot is ugly... by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 5, Funny

    So I looked at final example and I was just about to complain about how messed up it was. The words in the boxes on the right were all scrunched against the left edge. There were these stupid little dots in front of the links. It was just plain ugly. Then I went to the real site and realized it had always been that way, I just haven't paid attention to it.

  7. About the author... by Lank · · Score: 5, Funny

    Daniel M. Frommelt is the University World Wide Web Coordinator at the University of Wisconsin - Platteville, an executive committee member of the Campus Web Council of Wisconsin, and a web standards advocate. Daniel spends his free time brewing beer.

    I like the guy already.

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  8. Article by yerricde · · Score: 5, Funny

    Many languages have two articles, which correspond to English "an" and "the". Many of those languages have multiple forms, called "allomorphs," for each article, determined by context; in English, "an" becomes "a" before a consonant and "some" before a mass or plural noun. Russian has no articles, their function having been replaced by sticking nouns before the verb (to imply "the"-itude) or after the verb (to imply "a"-ness).

    Another meaning of "article" is any of the interesting pages linked to in the story at the top of a Slashdot article.pl page. In this case, Slashdot users would call this page "the article".

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    1. Re:Article by mindriot · · Score: 2, Funny
      Another meaning of "article" is any of the interesting pages linked to in the story at the top of a Slashdot article.pl page. In this case, Slashdot users would call this page "the article".

      Hmmmm... well, normal people would call it "the article". Slashdot users would probably call it "a DoS target".

  9. haha by VAXGeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    i just went to the new slashdot code, and it looks horrible in konqueror.
    the actual /. code renders fine though.

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  10. Sweet creepin' jesus! by mikeswi · · Score: 3, Funny

    14 gigs PER DAY savings ????

    I do ~90-100 gigs per MONTH and freak out at that.

    I will never bitch about my bandwidth use again.
    I will never bitch about my bandwidth use again.
    I will never bitch about my bandwidth use again.
    I will never bitch about my bandwidth use again.
    I will never bitch about my bandwidth use again.
    I will never bitch about my bandwidth use again.

  11. Re:Hallelujah! by IntlHarvester · · Score: 1, Funny

    > Just because HTML 3.2 "worked" didn't make it good, or right

    Tell that to all the Linux users who started browsing this site back in the 1990s with Nutscrape. Back then CSS meant "Optimized for Internet Explorer".

    I can't believe the folks getting their undies in a wad because a webapp is a whole two years behind the brower state-of-the-art. Taco could spend his days adding new features to the moderation system ... or he could appease some HTML fetishists by performing an expensive rewrite that results in the same look and no new features.

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  12. Re:Not ANOTHER non-standard page... by MuckSavage · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are you serious? Cause if so, you should be modded up funny.

  13. Re:Explains some stuff by identity0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you're seeing Slashdot as Big5, then that means IE thought that the character frequency matched Big5 most closely.

    A sad testament to how bad Slashdot grammar is... Next time someone asks you how bad the writing is on Slashdot, you can tell them "It's so bad my browser thinks it's Chinese!"

  14. Re:RTFB by sydb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Try "I'm sure that looks very snazzy on the screen of the person who developed it, [...]"

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  15. Re:Not ANOTHER non-standard page... by Magus424 · · Score: 2, Funny

    IE breaks the standards of the future.

    Fixed that for you.

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  16. Re:Experiment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This is Slashdot. People sit there just reloading the front page.

  17. Re:It's been done before (unofficially) by salzbrot · · Score: 2, Funny
    <html>
    Nietzsche is dead
    </html>