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What's Coming in Solaris 10
raptor21 writes "Ace's hardware has an article with feature list of technologies in Solaris 10 or whatever it is called today. Interesting stuff like DTrace, FireEngine, military grade security and a new filesystem called ZFS, Zetabyte File System."
Wait until you see what is coming down the pipe from Sun. The new Athlon 64 workstations and servers will breathe new life into Solaris. For the first time you will be able to run a fully 64-bit kernel with all of the stability and reliability of Solaris, along with all of the advanced features of Solaris. Features like this won't even make their way into Linux for another 5 years or so.
Solaris 10 will be the first release of Solaris that supports native 64-bit mode on the new AMD Opteron and Athlon 64 processors.
Not to mention the ability to address terabytes of memory without using PAE hacks.
The only question in my mind is: Will you be able to run the IA-64 port of Solaris 10 on a home-built Athlon 64 box, or will it require Sun hardware to run?
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I was a computer operator on a carrier long long ago. The computer room was two decks under the flight deck, right under the arresting gear ... pretty high up. My abandon ship station was to take a fire ax and whack the computer. I guess that old supply computer had too much vital technology. It wasn't the data in the computer, because it had no permanent storage, it was a tape operating system, and my job did not include whacking the tapes. So they were more concerned with the enemy capturing our carrier and recovering the computer technology than recovering the records of how much toilet paper we used. Must have been the water tight seals around the tape drive doors -- they claimed it could operate under water, tho how deep I never heard. And being so high up, 40 or so feet above the waterline ... if that had ever gotten under water, I wasn't planning on being the duty operator.
Infuriate left and right
You do not sound like you use Sun hardware. Rewriting an IP stack for greater scalability, and implementing a better trace are certainly useful to the market Sun is aiming at.
DTrace, provided it is well implemented, should be very useful for debugging the sorts of problems that one runs into in many enterprise settings, and I assume that folks who develop for Solaris, and the support folks at Sun are more pleased than anyone that it is in there.
How anyone could characterize an IP stack that handles multiple 10Gbit NICs bloat is beyond me. I realize that it would be absurd for home users or a small office setting, but that is not exactly the market Sun is in. The fact is that bandwidth can be high enough (100Gbit) that it was time to implement an IP stack that handled multiprocessor configs gracefully - that was where the bottleneck was. Sun was engineering a solution, not bloat.
"We haven't even reached petyabytes, for $DEITY's sake!" Which 'we' are we referring to here? While petabyte data stores are not common (yet), there are certainly a number of existing sites out there with petabyte SANs, especially in scientific research, and various gov't applications. Having a filesystem that scales past that is not bloat, it is foresight, and it is a selling point for that class of customers to know that Sun will be able to scale, and is doing the work of scaling in advance, rather than retrofitting some bolt-on solution.
Hyperbole is the worst thing ever.
I was told that SUN was primarily a hardware company, and that the more exposure they got, even from software, would create more hardware sales
:-)
Because if customers want to use Sun systems for their shop, but there isn't an office product that runs on it they still have to have PC's lying around. If Sun supplies them with the hardware, OS, and decent office tools, it's yet another reason the customer can use Sun.
suddenly SUN was a wee bit worried. They tried Solaris 9 for x86, then pulled it back later on
Uhm. I've got a copy of Solaris 2.6 x86 downstairs in my software library. If you think that Solaris 9 was the first x86 release of Solaris, you're not very educated on Sun products/offerings. The reason Sun "pulled back" from x86 is because they were ready to relinquish the x86 market to Linux. Customers SCREAMED at Sun NOT to do this. They WANTED Solaris reliability and functionality on x86 CPU's and didn't trust Linux completely. Sun happily obliged.
Does anyone else think that they're competing with themselves?
Huh?
They're not a software-as-a-service business model. They're not really even an OS Software "manufacturer" business. They're a hardware company who has tried their hand at everything from a programming language (Java), an office suite (staroffice), and OS/desktop (Solaris, Java Desktop).
Yes. Your one-stop-shopping place for all of your workplace needs. You need the hardware? Got that. You need an OS that offers seamless integration with the hardware? Here 'ya go. Want a built-in filesystem with the features of VXFS without having to pay a license fee to Veritas? ZFS comes in 10. Want to write your code in one language and run it on all of your other systems? Use Java. OS Desktop? That's just icing designed to take more $ from Bill G's pocket.
When Linux pulls through
Linux is a good OS and I am no stranger to it whatsoever, but it has a long way to go to catch up to Solaris. This announcement about Solaris 10 is demonstrating just that.
Oh, and by the way. Some of us in my office are playing with the internal-only betas of Solaris 10. Very sexy IMNSHO. For the heck of it, I started calling it SunOS X as a parody of MacOS X. The rest of the engineers on my team have followed suit, though as of yet none of us know what the "official" release name will be.
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Is it just me or does a lot of what Sun is doing remind you of what SGI went through in the high-end visualization market a few years back?
Obviously things are not DIRECTLY equatable but I can't stop thinking about the comparison.
Couldnt you say that in both cases that their niche erroded due to low or no cost competitors?
Both had some great software. Could Sun having Solaris and Java be somewhat equateble to SGI's OpenGL and Irix?
Both companies had hardware at the heart of their business models at one point.
Sun seems to be doing what SGI did in trying to do a bunch of different things to pull itself out while in the process losing focus and STILL having hardware at the heart of the business model.
SGI is obviously still around. If you look at their website now, you can see they are targetting a much smaller niche than they used to (supercomputers). The day of thinking that an o2 will be on the desk of every college student has long passed. I'm sure SGI never thought they would be promoting Linux-based supercomputers on their homepage 5 years ago - lord only knows what Sun will have on theirs homepage 5 years hence.
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