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DRM From the Viewpoint of the Electronic Industry

mike449 writes "The cover story of the Oct.16 issue of EDN magazine is about the recent trends in DRM. It is not just a technical article. The author tries to convey what people who are supposed to design and implement access restriction measures think about their feasibility and associated economic, legal and moral issues. 'Of course, you can always try charging a reasonable price and trusting people to be honest. Just think of all the money you'll save not having to implement DRM'."

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  1. Just say no! by seanadams.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

    D R M only inconveniences those of us who pay for our music. The pirates will go on using uncrippled formats. DRM is precisely as effective for anti-piracy as the Evil Bit is for security.

    It's not even about copy protection. It's about keeping us on the "new format treadmill", and locking us in to specific playback hardware/software.

    Don't be fooled. Take a stand!

    1. Re:Just say no! by GrouchoMarx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're missing the point. Yes, Apple iTunes is a wonderful service... except for the DRM. Yes, it is easily the loosest and least intrusive DRM system in the world right now, but it's still unduely restricting my usage of the content I have legally aquired.

      Yes downloadable music is good. Yes it can celebrate good rather than manufactured music. Yes, it levels the playing field. Yes, yes, yes, that's all true, we agree, great, fine, lovely. That's NOT THE POINT.

      It's very simple. Digital Rights Mangling systems are bad. They are wrong. Any system that employs them is flawed and intrusive. Any system that employs it does not get my business or my money. End of story.

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  2. DRM only hurts the Good Guys. by BadCable · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is interesting, because when it all comes down to it, the "good guys" are hurt due to restrictions, and the "bad guys" always end up pirating, etc. I am not sure there really is an answer as to how to protect information 100% without it both hurting the consumer and being crackable by a cracker. Of course, the governments can keep passing laws that make reverse engineering illegal, etc, but again, that's just going to scare the average Joe much more than it would scare someone who really wants to crack a DRM transmission. Only time will tell where the DRM issue ends up.

    1. Re:DRM only hurts the Good Guys. by Ozric · · Score: 5, Informative

      I had to do this to get Madden 2000 to run. Thats right, I had to crack it to use it. this was a game I had bought from the store. Now that's a problem.

      Thanks DRM for making my life so much better.

  3. Trust hasn't been earned by JZ_Tonka · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Of course, you can always try charging a reasonable price and trusting people to be honest"

    Take a look at the network traffic of any university. Can you really blame electronics companies for not being trusting of their target market?

    1. Re:Trust hasn't been earned by image · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Take a look at the network traffic of any university. Can you really blame electronics companies for not being trusting of their target market?

      Um, maybe college students with almost no disposable income shouldn't be a target market for $20 CDs, either.

      Historically those markets listened to college radio and swapped vinyl. They certainly weren't spending $20 a pop on a CD from an international megastar with one good song on it.

      Here's a concept -- charge different amounts for different product. I.e., Mogwai and Ted Leo CDs should be offered for $5 each. Let the teen masses and the adult contemporary listeners (with their disposable dollars) pay $20 for an album.

      Variable pricing is slowly coming of age via direct downloads through non-traditional channels such as indie-label sites and the iTunes store. Fortunately this will ultimately kill off the RIAA's price-fixing tactics. But goddamn it's an ugly death.

  4. no locks by Wuss912 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Locks only stop honest people....
    thats what it all comes down to

  5. How will small content creators cope? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How do small content creators cope with DRM? I mean, someone's got to certify that newly created content is original and not a copy of something else, otherwise what's the point of DRM? If there's a fee involved, how steep will it be?

    I mean, a small time music producer or a small time comic book creator will have trouble in this environment, especially if they're just doing it because they love the art.

  6. Duh! - Honesty and Trust! by dukeluke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Of course, you can always try charging a reasonable price and trusting people to be honest. Just think of all the money you'll save not having to implement DRM."

    DRM should be thrown out - pirates will still find ways to crack/hack the system. It's just a vicious cycle - one that ultimately hurts the consumer.

    Producers should instead look towards more effective means of an honest and easy system of distribution. This would generate much more revenue - and shut down the napster-like systems of today.

    I know many people who are now avidly seeking the honest route through the $0.99 title online stores.

  7. Re:Interesting line ... by IWorkForMorons · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This works both ways.

    Action: RIAA overcharges for their product.
    Consequence: Millions of people download songs shared on Napster for free.

    Two wrongs don't make a right. Someone is going to have to make the compremises. The question now is: Will it be the RIAA? Or the millions of people who buy their products but are getting ticked off about getting gouged?

  8. Quis custodiet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    DRM itself isn't really the concern. It's just a tool: a lock can be used to keep out burglars, or contain the freedoms of people.

    What matters is who is holding the keys at the end of the day.

  9. Re:Problem isnt DRM its copyrights by onyxruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bzzt, wrong. Copyrights do eventually expire, and DRM has no time based self deactivation method. 300 years from now if you want to watch an old copy of a DVD, which by then even Mickey Mouse will no longer be copyrighted, you will still have to deal with the DRM. DRM manufactures don't even consider the idea of a time limitation because they think the idea that something would ever fall out of copyright.

    Today we use careful forensic techniques to examine content of centuries past. Centuries down the road, is the skill of cracking going to required in university to become an arheologist? Enormous amounts of content of modern culture could become completely lost. Films decay, even the BBC's big knowledge archive turned out to be almost unsalvagable only a couple decades after it was made, and they didn't even have to fight DRM.

    DRM is fundamentally flawed, and serves only to interfere with the rights of those it is inflicted upon. It serves no purpose to anyone but a self serving company that may not even be around a few years from now. How many old games or software titles do you own in which the company is even still in existance. Guess what, once they go tit's up there is no incentive for them to help salvage DRM'd products.

  10. DRM is 90% lie and 10% truth by BanjoBob · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The problem with DRM is that it is largely a ruse. Those that want it are those that make money from it. The problem is that the creative talent behind the content will probably never see much benefit from it. The RIAA/MPAA/SWG/BMI/ASCAP/etc folks will all reap huge rewards from it but the actual artists/songwriters/authors/etc. will probably not see very much.

    As a music publisher and promoter, I paid thousands of dollars in royalties to the licensing agencies however, not one artist or songwriter in 7+ years has ever received a solitary zinc penney. Never and none. All the money the RIAA is taking in with their extortion tactics stays within the RIAA and the corporations. Not one cent is being paid out to the artists. Never and none.

    So DRM isn't about paying royalties to artists and it isn't about protecting them since they will receive very little, if any benefit from DRM.

    Those selling the locks and the keys and those selling the media and the players are the only ones who will receive any financial benefit. So, why even have DRM?

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  11. Just released: Digital Plate Management by orangepeel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    (You heard it here first ... and yes, I do have too much free time. And no, I'm not making a statement pro or con about this area ... this is just a little food for thought. Hah. I made a funny. :-) )

    Officials at one of America's largest "all you can eat" restaurants announced today a new method of cost-cutting.

    Tuesday, November 25th
    For immediate release

    Raleigh, NC: Silver Bucket, a nation-wide franchise restaurant chain with over 200 all-you-can-eat restaurants, has just introduced a new technology called Digital Plate Management, or DPM for short. Company executives are said to be excited about this new technology as they expect it will end the ability for unscrupulous customers to share food with non-paying companions.

    "We've always faced a certain 'undesirable' component to our clientele," says Bryan Dawkins, CEO of Silver Bucket. He adds, "You can tell who they are as soon as they arrive. They'll arrive in twos or threes ... sometimes more. Only one or two will buy the buffet though. The others just matter-of-factly state they only want a soft drink."

    Dawkins adds, "They're lying, of course. We seldom see it happen as they've become such experts at this kind of blatant theft, but come on ... there's no way someone comes into our restaurant as part of group and only wants a soft drink. You immediately know they're up to no good."

    The Digital Plate Management technology that is now being deployed at Silver Bucket restaurants will bring an end to all that. The system relies on a high-tech buffet plate that is designed to work only with the person who purchases the buffet menu option. "These plates are going to save our bacon," says Dawkins. "They are just the most fantastic devices we've ever seen." The plates, which cost the company a little over $1300 a piece, are encoded at the time the customer makes their purchase upon entry into the restaurant. From that point on, the plate is designed to maintain its rigidity only when held by the authorized patron. "If someone else picks them up, they go completely flaccid. The plates, that is," adds Dawkins. In other words, the plates will only be useful for the authorized customer.

    Digital Plate Management is the results of years of research, combining stunning effort in both materials engineering and biometrics. The plates include integrated sensors that allow them to be encoded with biometric data when the customer is first handed the plate. The plate stores information about the registered user such as fingerprints, skin elasticity, and body temperature. If these values change beyond a certain range of acceptable values, the plate goes limp. That might seem like a problem for restaurant staff, but the plates have been designed to handle encoding for more than one person. "One of the incredible features of these plates is that they can be encoded to allow any of our restaurant employees to handle the plate without having the plate become flaccid," adds Dawkins. This means that, while customers cannot share their plates amongst themselves, restaurant staff will be free to handle the plates when clearing tables and during dish washing. "Oh certainly, in the restaurant business, you never want to annoy your staff with potential hurdles like that," states Dawkins. He continues, "Multiple user encoding was one of the first things they had to solve in the design of these plates."

    "Silver Bucket is committed to providing a first class customer experience," explains Dawkins. "Digital Plate Management is an absolutely revolutionary method for maintaining the level of quality our customers expect. These plates will allow us to make sure that only those honest, paying customer will have access to our all-you-can-eat buffet. We will thus be able to ensure a high-quality menu for our guests, and improve the bottom line for our shareholders."

    Customer reaction has been mixed. David

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