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Rubies of Eventide MMO Shutting Down?

Bruha writes "Over at Rubies of Eventide Warcry it has been announced that the fantasy-based PC MMO Rubies of Eventide will be shutting down operations in December unless they can find some way to pay the bills. The owner of the company sent out an announcement where he said those paid up to that point will be receiving refunds and pointed out that they just did not have enough players anymore to continue: 'Our customer base continues to decline; as of yesterday we had only 806 paying customers (we lost another 41 over the weekend).'" Are there just too many MMOs out there, thus spreading players too thin, or are these problems down to the state of this particular game?

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  1. Ouch by phlyingpenguin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That kind of sucks... I played that MMO for awhile and liked it. It was a bit lacking on excitement I think, but overall a solid and engrossing game. Having a free download really helped it's image in my mind as well.

    It was kind of sparse on players after the newbie's area. I agree that MMOGs are getting spread thin as I've basically been playing a new game every month looking for a good online home which I haven't discovered yet. There are a lot of options. Every time I've switched I've found that the grass is always greener on the other side.

  2. It means there are at least enough games. by jefft · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Are there just too many MMOs out there, thus spreading players too thin, or are these problems down to the state of this particular game?

    This is not necessarily a sign of too many games. If no MMO games ever closed, that would be a sure sign that there weren't enough of them.

  3. Impending joblessness... by Gorgo+the+Slow · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I predict that this is the first of many of these stories. The industry is saturating the market with these games. I haven't played Everquest. or any of it's ilk. What I have gleaned from others complaints is that this genre demands LOTS of time. There must be a fixed amount of people in the world with the time and determination to keep playing. Flooding the market with these games is only going to disrupt the available pool of people willing to pay a monthly fee. IOW, if X amount of people are ever going to be paying a monthly fee for a massively time consuming online game, having a glut of titles nets less total players per game. We will soon see a digital "darwinism" thinning the herds of these games. Of course, it has always worked this way, with FPS and RTS games showing the pattern. However, none of these games were relying on monthly fees to make their money. Where it was easy to make a quick cash in on the RTS or FPS craze, the developers relying on subscriptions for profit are in for trouble.

  4. Not even a thousand paying customers? by tickticker · · Score: 2, Funny
    It doesn't sound so massive anymore!

    How about a TMO (tiny multiplayer online)

    1. Re:Not even a thousand paying customers? by pelsmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >>How about a TMO (tiny multiplayer online)

      Now that is a good idea, and I will bet it is one that we eventually settle into.

      I'm not talking about the 16 player maps, or even the 64 player maps. I am talking about a server specifically designed to house about 400 people, with a guesstimated 100 playing at any given time. Games designed to operate at this level will be able to cover every possible genre.

      First though, the finances must be nailed down and publicized. Once everyone has a basic game plan on how to pay the ISP charges while still staying small, the uber-geeks with a lot of talent and passion and time on their hands will get together with their best story telling buddy and create amazing limited scope adventures.

  5. Where they went wrong... by OneFix+at+Work · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lets see...from the FAQ:

    Can I download the game, or is it on a CD?
    Rubies Of Eventide is no longer being offered on CD during open beta. Any updates are automatically downloaded after the installation of the game. All updates are mandatory to run Rubies Of Eventide.


    Oh, so this never got out of beta...yet...in the same FAQ...

    What do I need to play this game? What are the system requirements?
    You will need an Internet connection to play Rubies Of Eventide. There is no single player version planned at this time.

    Minimum System requirements are:

    Pentium 4 or faster Processor
    256 MB of RAM (512MB recommended)


    Yet the screen shots look real bad (like something from the '90s)...and I'm certain this has to be their best screenshots...

    And the whole try before you buy thing seems to have eluded them...as in the same FAQ...

    Rubies of Eventide Pricing for 2003
    1 month - $14.95
    $35.85 for 3 months ($11.95/m) Save 20% off the standard rate!!
    $65.70 for 6 months ($10.95/m) Look, over 25% off!!
    $119.40 for a year ($9.95/m)Best deal for almost 35% off at $9.95 a month!!


    Ok, so for a recap...

    You want me to pay $15/mo to play a beta of a game that I've never heard of and obviously never played with high system requirements that looks like it's about 5 years too late with the graphics...

    Ok, I can't tell why this company is having problems selling their beta game to everyone...must be the start of another games crash...

  6. I have played ROE a little by Sparr0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This game has potential, but was never really finished beta. It needs more content, and more fleshed out skills. The engine is also somewhat dated, pre-Everquest quality graphics. I hope something good comes of this, they seem to have good developers and good ideas, just general problems along the way.

  7. It was a clunker by Kirby · · Score: 3, Informative

    I got a beta CD (quite a long time ago) and loaded this sucker up. The first thing I noticed was the terrible graphics - only somewhat better than Bards Tale era. This isn't necessarily the kiss of death.

    But the game was just so generic. It was just another fantasy game in a crowded market, with the only interesting thing about it being that it was massively multiplayer.

    I vaguely recall spending about an hour playing with it, before concluding that it was terrible, and not comparable to Asheron's Call or Everquest or Ultima Online. And when you're talking about games with a monthly fee, not to mention a sizeable time commitment, MMORPGs compete head-to-head more than traditional games do for players. There's very little reason to have chosen this one. It wasn't a hidden gem, just hidden.

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    -- Kate
  8. Pretty clear solution to me... by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 2, Interesting

    turn the servers (and the source code?) over to hardcore fans.

    Apparently a few of them don't mind it being beta... maybe they'll get some people in on it to polish it up.

    I mean, even if it has to be under an NDA so the people who steward it don't sell the ideas to competing game publishers.

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    THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
    1. Re:Pretty clear solution to me... by Thinko · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Open Source it!

      If it's going to die, might as well allow the world to reap the rewards and improve it, host it ourselves, and give it a second chance at life, in the open. Having it rot on a shelf in the basement is a terrible end for a game with such great potential.

      By giving it to the world, you solve the problem of the ideas/code being sold, we can port it to a dozen platforms, improve the graphics, and add a vast amount of story/plot to it. Give the editing / modelling tools to the community (or at least detailed specs on the models and maps) and we'll happily be on our way, keeping this dream alive.

  9. CyberWarrior by molo · · Score: 2, Informative

    I used to use Cyber Warrior back in the day (the company that does Rubies). They were an ISP located in Fair Lawn, NJ with a POP in Ridgewood that I used. I used to know the sysadmin there (Hi Rich) and even got to visit the facilities. This was back in 1995 or so, and they were running the ISP on a fractional T1.

    They have been developing this game the whole time too. I was just happy to have a shell account and a dialup, and never tried the game. Unfortunately, they never made much progress with the game. They had a limited following and only like 4 people working on the game. One or two developers and a couple artists.

    I kinda got the impression that they were going nowhere fast. After Rich left, it seems they went downhill quickly on the ISP side of things. I'm not sure about the game side.

    -molo

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    Using your sig line to advertise for friends is lame.
  10. Sorry to see it go by Kirruth · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Well, I came into the game in the last two months, and found it to be alot of fun.

    I guess they made a few mistakes, like putting unimplemented skills in the skills list, rather than doing what other games do and bringing them in later and charging for them. But it probably had more skills actually implemented than many other such games. The content was all there, but a little hard to find. Cool if you like that kind of thing, but not if you're the typical l335t gamer. Graphics were fine when I got there.

    The thing about it was it wasnt put out by an huge, evil megacorp, but a small independent company. We need to get our heads around the fact that games are like movies or bands. Little indy games are cool, like little indy movies or unsigned bands that nobody has heard of. They are not going to be as slick as stuff from the big guys perhaps, but then you are not handing over a cheque to people who would sue you at the drop of a hat.

    I am amazed that people who will have nothing to do with Microsoft or Sony on the PC, will own a Playstation or XBox. It's time we wised up.

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    "Well, put a stake in my heart and drag me into sunlight."
  11. I used to work for cyberwarrior by Chrome3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Basically this is exactly what I expected from the company.

    This game has been in development for ~7 years. I worked on it for a little while about 2 years ago and it had no chance of shipping. Feature creep had pushed the release date out for years. The rest of the market at the time was using 3d hardware while we still had a ray casting engine similar to doom. The combat system was horrible. The servers could barely stay online for 4 hours with 20 users before memory leaks took them down.

    The company had no focus on shipping a product and was content to stay beta for half a decade.

    Overall there were a lot of reasons this project didn't work out.

    I'm sad to see the company go under, and I hope my old co-workers find new positions, but I can't say that it's a surprise.