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Netcraft Web Server Stats Challenged

kolchak writes "An article in The Age has an interesting analysis of the Netcraft Web Server Usage Reports. According to Port80 Software, Netcraft's surveys are biased towards domain name parkers and very small web sites, not taking into account how popular a site may be - there's some interesting results in the competing Port80 survey." However, it should be pointed out that Port80 "develops software products to enhance the security, performance and user experience of Microsoft's Internet Information Services (IIS) Web server."

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  1. Interesting results from header check tool by Alystair · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you do a header check on a site you get this notice at the bottom:
    "No matter what the above results show, this company may be running Microsoft IIS and protecting its Web server identity with ServerMask."

    ServerMask must be the paperbag for ugly IIS servers or corporations who don't want to admit they run IIS

  2. Re:A bit more than the average MS bias by SkArcher · · Score: 4, Funny

    So.... If you are running MS IIS your best security measure is to pretend to be running Apache?

    Errrrr.... Just run Apache?

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  3. Re:A bit more than the average MS bias by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Funny

    So.... If you are running MS IIS your best security measure is to pretend to be running Apache?

    No. It's to wave your hands and intone "These are not the servers you're looking for."

    It requires the Obi Wan Server Mask, however.

  4. It's just plain wrong. by Mustang+Matt · · Score: 3, Funny

    I put in my apache/linux server and it said it was running IIS 5.0

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  5. Re:Maybe because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    maybe its because Apache is seriously outdated technology that still uses unbuffered pointers and old static calls to libraries?

    I mean, give me a break! Stop trying to use 70's technology for problems in the 21st century

  6. Re:A bit more than the average MS bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    and what would that one line be?I want my $50 worth on my apache server,lol

  7. Where's Google? by RT+Alec · · Score: 4, Funny

    I could not help but notice that Google, Yahoo, and Slashdot are omitted from their "top 1000" list. Yet rumors persist that these three web sites get a fair amount of traffic.

  8. we have arived. by hsidhu · · Score: 3, Funny

    Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e31'

    [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Timeout expired

    /includes/Referer.asp, line 7

    we live in an era where you can market shades to a blind man, and thats what these folks are doing. leave them alone to make innovative products like ServerMask.

  9. ./ effect by ryanw · · Score: 4, Funny

    Port80Software has been slashdotted. As of 23:41 MTN Standardtime Nov 26th, 2003.. their box is completely down.

    Wonder what they're running ...

  10. Wow by Micah · · Score: 2, Funny

    Their wonderful IIS sure didn't stand up well to a Slashdotting.

    Remind me again why I don't switch from Apache?

  11. Re:Hmm by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Funny
    Don't matter what they say...
    The site is Slashdotted (tm).

    Good job Port80!

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  12. Re:Lies, damned lies and statistics by saden1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    * 70% of statistical survey are sponsored by corporations.
    * 89% of statistical survey are lies to serve a purpose.
    * People lie 65% the time.
    * 63% of people lie for financial gains.
    * Microsoft is 10% evil.
    * I lie 16.66% of the time.

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  13. Re:Top 1000 companies... by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 3, Funny
    I've surveyed the web for actual content using similar criteria, giving proportional weight the Fortune 1000. I've been able to conclude that:
    • Most websites on the Internet have an annoying Flash intro.
    • Most websites on the Internet make you select your country of origin before letting you see the main page.
    • Most of the images on the World Wide Web are of small groups of people in business attire with earnest expressions focusing attention on some common problem.
    • All websites have an Investor Relations page.
    • A significant number of websites will use the Javascript features of your browser to lock you out of their site on the premise that your browser does not support Javascript.

    If you have a website and you're not doing these things, then you're not using current best practices. I suggest that everybody upgrade to these universal web standards as soon as they can.

  14. Re:A bit more than the average MS bias by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 3, Funny

    Of course, for intranets, you would probably want an Obi LAN Server Mask ;)

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  15. Re:Hmm by Znork · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Well, since they are so closely tied to microsoft, looks like they have a BIT of a bias..."

    Well, of course they're claiming that Netcraft is biased as they survey all webservers they can find. Port 80's idea of an 'unbiased' survey appears to be more in the line of '100% of all IIS sites run IIS which proves IIS is the most commonly used webserver'.

  16. NETCRAFT IS DYING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It is official; Netcraft confirms: Netcraft is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Netcraft community when IDC confirmed that Netcraft market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all surveys. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that Netcraft has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Netcraft is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent net survey comprehensive test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict Netcraft's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Netcraft faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Netcraft because Netcraft is dying. Things are looking very bad for Netcraft. As many of us are already aware, Netcraft continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    Web Server Survey Netcraft is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time Web Server Survey developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: Netcraft is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Netcraft Admin leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of Netcraft SSL Server Survey. How many users of Security Testing are there? Let's see. The number of Netcraft SSL Server Survey versus Security Testing posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 Security Testing. Find that site Netcraft posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Security Testing posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of Find that site Netcraft. A recent article put What's that site running Netcraft at about 80 percent of the Netcraft market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 Netcraft users. This is consistent with the number of Netcraft Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Security Testing, abysmal sales and so on, Web Server Survey is going out of business and will probably be taken over by Netcraft who sell another troubled net survey. Now Netcraft is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that Netcraft has steadily declined in market share. Netcraft is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Netcraft is to survive at all it will be among net survey dilettante dabblers. Netcraft continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Netcraft is dead.

    Fact: Netcraft is dying

  17. Yes they are... check this out by imtheguru · · Score: 5, Funny

    i tried their header check for www.apache.org [link is here]

    Port80 returned this result:
    "We detect that www.apache.org is running Apache/2.0.48-dev (Unix)."

    But further down the page is this gem:
    "No matter what the above results show, this company may be running Microsoft IIS and protecting its Web server identity with ServerMask."

    WTF?!

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    1. Re:Yes they are... check this out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      No matter what the above results show, this company may be running Microsoft IIS and protecting its Web server identity with ServerMask.... so, just to be safe, we counted it as IIS.

  18. Hey, that's FOUR lines! by mangu · · Score: 4, Funny

    So typical of "open sores" zealots...

    "EXPERTS CONFIRM: CONFIGURING OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE IS 300% MORE DIFFICULT THAN ORIGINALLY CLAIMED"