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Fortune Magazine On Google Growing Up

Posted by simoniker on from the blossoming-money-tree dept.

prostoalex writes "Fortune Magazine runs a pretty long story on Google, but instead of the usual exultation over PageRank algorithm and Larry-and-Sergey biographies, we get a different message - is Google growing up, and is trouble brewing at Google? Here's Fortune's description of the pre-IPO days: 'Google has grown arrogant, making some of its executives as frustrating to deal with in negotiations as AOL's cowboy salesmen during the bubble. It has grown so fast that employees and business partners are often confused about who does what. A rise of stock- and option-stoked greed is creating rifts within the company. Employees carp that Google is morphing in strange and nerve-racking ways.'"

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  1. Google's efficacy by n0nsensical · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Also, anyone else noticed that Google itself is getting less effective lately? Some searches I make, the first 2 pages all go to the same advertiser's site except all the links have different domain names; I think they're figuring out how to exploit its page ranking. Other searches I get tons of 404s, especially with image search, and the images aren't cached except as thumbnails so it's even more annoying.

  2. summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Summary of the article:
    "Oh no, there's this company here that values engineers highly, and does all sorts of wacky non-corporate stuff. How can they survive ?
    They must behave more like other dot-com companies, otherwise they /might/ be doomed.
    "

    All in all an odd article, since google is one of the few prospering .com bubble survivors, who survived /because/ they were different.

  3. Re:So what we need really is.. by danheskett · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nope.

    Believe it or not, there are some applications that CANNOT BE EFFECTIVELY OPEN SOURCED.

    Open sourcing a search engine would 100% guarantee absolute junk for results.

    If I had access to the code behind PageRank, I could guarantee my clients get excellent pacement. Same with other people. Honest people who just put up a website/page would be left in the dust by spammers.

    Other examples where obscurity is the ONLY security:

    1. Code that states/federal revenue services use to flag accounts for audits. This code, in the public, would instantly destroy the revenue stream of the government. Accountants with programming skills could determine *exactly* what limits they could test and get away with. Every return filed would be for the maximum amount that the code would allow without triggering and audit.

    2. Fraud detection code used by credit companies, service providers, etc. Armed with this code crackers would have free reign over credit cards and online payment systems. Exact patterns of usuage could be setup to guarantee that fraud flags would not be triggered.

    3. Code that determines which passengers get flagged for pre-flight searches. Armed with this information criminals could fashion profiles that guarantee they will not be probed in-depth.

    These four examples destroy your silly notion. Open Source is not a magic pill. A truly open source version of Google would be a useless tool within a matter of weeks, if not days.

  4. Decrease In Linking Over Time by Boricle · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Something I have been wondering about is will the massive adoption of tools like google start result in a reduction of linking, hence undermining the very web that google (and many other engines) crawls.

    I know I don't bother with many links these days - whats the point when I can use google to search for it, the open directory to find by category (or even on the odd occaision Yahoo). Even if I am looking for something similar I don't even have to web crawl for it - you can just Show Similar to find it.

    I stating the assumption that others are also doing this - and if this is so, then won't the ability of page rank and similar link "usefulness" evaluation algorithims to produce good results degrade?

    Any thoughts....?


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  5. Get out my tinfoil hat! by dsbrain · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm surprised that no one has pointed out a pattern I see here in these 100 incidents:

    000) About 2 months ago Microsoft executive Jim Allchin said condescendingly: "Google's a very nice system, but compared to my vision, it's pathetic."

    001) Microsoft may have offered to buy Google right before it is set to go public, but Google turns them down.

    010) Google changes it's program in an attempt to get better weighted results and gets bad press from business about it.

    011) Word "leaks out" that SCO may be planning to sue Google for not paying them the "license" tax.

    100) Fortune publishes a negative article about Google's management.

    All this happens just as Google is about to offer it's IPO and just as M$ is starting it's own online search engine. Tons of negative press for Google, lots of praise for M$'s "forward thinking" on search technology. Coincidence? I think not...

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