Latest Maps of the Internet

mnmonte writes "Yesterday morning Opte.org announced that they have successfully mapped the entire internet. They are currently compiling a LGL map for all to see. Currently they have a LGL map that has 'over 5 million edges and has an estimated 50 million hop count'. Also only took them 252.68 hours to complete."

Comments

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[segment]

Seems like this is irrelevant to anything actually worth something. Considering changes occur so much online, why even bother, I mean honestly. Right now say if an ISP switched their AS to another provider which occurs you know, what does that do for the map, all that time wasted.

Sure makes for a nice project I just threw up a /26 for some hosts they're not included in the map, so aside from novelty what real purpose does this serve? I'm not trolling I'm just trying to look at this from a different perspective outside of 'yay look what I did'.

Side note to clarify those scared clueless crybabies who made a statement about the "magic" perl script I posted, please read on cluebie. You should check wtf your talking about the script does nothing more than what it just did scare luzers and makes for a nice honeypot. FYI the script is from Deception Tool Kit, if you dug around you would know this. Only line I added was at the bottom, which is nothing more than print

Re:uh...

[rjbrown99]

You miss the point - the system will be able to map the entire net within one 24 hour period. It will create one map per day. None of them will be very outdated. Lots can be done with this - you can check historical patterns, route changes, etc. For instance, the automated system will take the data out of the database, use a new color scheme, and show major route changes or additions each day. I think that's pretty damn cool.

Also, the smallest BGP route is a /24, so your new /26 wouldn't show up in the map anyway. He's just tracerouting to each /24 on the network and stopping there.

Lastly, the system is using traceroute right now but will upgrade to Dan Kaminski's packetto which is much MUCH faster. Given the distributed nature of packetto, it may end up being an almost-realtime system.

I don't know about you, but I certainly see a lot more value in that than "look what I did."

Re:Mapping engine status: Stalled

[Space cowboy]

[grin] It sort of guesses wrong on purpose if it doesn't know - my theory is that people are more likely to correct it if it's wildly wrong than slightly wrong :-)

I'm working on the lat/long stuff this weekend, then there's a bunch of networks that can be automatically located. With this map of the net, I can start intelligently looking at IP's as well, rather than probing random ones that might not exist :-)

Tx for the correction :-))

Simon

The Entire Internet?

[clifgriffin]

I'm having troubles understanding conceptually how this is possible?

Did they spider every registered domain? Is that list available?

Or did they just spider, like google? In that case, how do they know they didn't miss some?

Assuming they did, I'll be the party pooper.

*registers theonetheymissed.com*

HAHA! They do NOT have the entire internet indexed.

Clif

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Re:"Also only took them 252.68 hours to complete."

[Patrick13]

> ...and it only took 6 minutes to /. their server.

That's because its a slow day on Slashdot. If the site was at its prime, it would've only taken 3 1/2 minutes.

Uh..

[NoMoreNicksLeft]

The internet is 1-dimensional? They must be describing it metaphorically. Because it sure as hell has a geometry, and an N-dimensional geometry at that (where N is larger than 1, even if I don't know the exact value).

For example, I've experimenting with networks that have a regular geometry, where every router might have 6 links to other routers, arranged in a 3d grid type of geometry. In the logical sense, a router is certainly "to the right" of another, or "above" another. In such a network, it's easy to see that it has 3 dimensions. With the internet, the geometry is very irregular, even 'organic'.

All that said, should I Subject this post with "Fr0st t3chn1cal p0ts" ? Even an hour later, everything seems to be lame kiddy banter....

Mapping TCP/IP w/ Internal NAT

[detritus.]

As opposed to mapping interconnected hosts, I wonder how it would look if we took internal networks (192.168./16, 10./8 172./8, etc..). Instead of mapping the Internet, it would be interesting how many computers are actually connected to the internet, even if by means of NAT, (transparent) proxy, interior routing, etc.. Although it's an impossible task to do without contributors, but I think it would be a very interesting visualization when combined with a map like this.