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20 Years of Virii

DenOfEarth writes "News.com has an article outlining that it was around twenty years ago that a computer security reasearcher coined the term 'virus', and how the things have been running amok. Interestingly enough, when said researcher applyed for research funding to look into a blanket solution to this possible 'virus' problem, he was turned down."

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  1. Lame viruses nowadays by CausticWindow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Viruses were much cooler in the early nineties. They didn't spread as wildfire on the internet, but at least they did cool thing as code morphing to foil antivirus programs.

    And why is this guy surprised that he doesn't get a grant for a "blanket solution" for viruses? I've got a blanket solution for world hunger and cancer, but I'm not getting any reasearch funding either.

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  2. Ah memories by jawtheshark · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Back in the good old days, I actually let my computer infect on purpose. Just once, yes, it was a bitch to clean. I got however the opportunity to dissect the thing in memory. I do not remember what year it was, but the Tequila virus was spreading like a wildfire. My AV detected the diskette with Tequilla. I had nothing important on the machine, disabled the AV, and staring hunting.

    While reading the live memory, I found a message stating "Tequilla and Beer forever" along with an address in Switserland if I recall correctly. Ah, those where the days.... Where viruses were no lame email worms but appended themselves to executables.

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  3. Ignored by the NSF? by Prof.+Pi · · Score: 3, Interesting
    From the article:

    When he asked for funding from the National Science Foundation three years later to further explore countermeasures, the agency rebuffed him.

    A typical problem with getting research funded (or published) is that the gatekeepers, the people who decide what gets funded/published, often choose what is worthy based on their own research interests. One generally has to have established a track record to become a gatekeeper, which means that new ideas are often shut out, while researchers pursue what they think are the current "fashions."

    James Gleick (author of Chaos) tells how he was warned by professors that he'd ruin his career wasting his time with this "chaos" nonsense. (Fortunately, he ignored them.)

  4. Re:Lets get this out of the way by jonathan_ingram · · Score: 4, Interesting

    English isn't Latin -- there's nothing wrong with 'viruses'. There's no reason to out of our way to make English even more irregular than it already is -- particular when 'virii' wouldn't be correct Latin anyway (it would have to be 'virius', not 'virus', for 'virii' to work).

  5. First PC computer virus by mukund · · Score: 5, Interesting
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  6. 20 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    it was around twenty years ago that a computer security reasearcher coined the term 'virus',
    Right... except that in David Gerrold's "When H.A.R.L.I.E. was One" (1972) there's this bit of dialogue :

    "Do you remember the VIRUS program?"
    "Vaguely. Wasn't it some kind of computer disease or malfunction?"
    "Disease is closer. There was a science-fiction writer once who wrote a story about it--but the thing had been around a long time before that. ....etc. etc.

    (p. 175, in the 1975 Ballantine paperback reprint: I think I have the 1972 serialization in Galaxy somewhere in a box upstairs, but I can't be arsed to dig it out)

    Actually, as described in the succeeding pages, VIRUS was more of a worm (a term coined by John Brunner in "The Shockwave Rider", but you knew that already); but the idea of malware called a virus was around in the early 70s at least.

  7. Fred Cohen - BAH! by HisMother · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Any time you read an article and see Fred Cohen's name, you can stop reading right there, because you know another so called "journalist" has fallen hook, line, and sinker for this guy's self-aggrandizing line of bullshit. Note that you'll never find an article quoting X as saying Fred Cohen is the father of computer viruses, unless X is Fred Cohen. He's shilling for his security consulting firm, plain and simple. He no more "invented" the computer virus than Al Gore invented the Internet. Please, Slashdot, stop feeding this buttplug's enormous ego!

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  8. Pet peeve? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    17 people jump into the discussion to say that "virii" should be "viruses".

    Yet no one complains that "applyed" should be written "applied".

    Strange.

  9. Sentient Viruses by tymbow · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was having a red wine fuelled conversation with some friends on the subject of viruses, worms and Internet security the other day. We were discussing how connectivity has changed the landscape with regards to the impact of viruses, bugs and worms. In the eighties and early nineties there was less connectivity than we have with the modern Internet. The obvious analogue to human viral pathogens and the rise of jet aircraft travel between countries shows how this will only get worse as more devices are connected to Internet and how inoculation and prevention together with secure coding practices (something which has no human virus equivalent at the moment, but who knows where DNS techniques will take us) are becoming mandatory. Should all devices connecting to the network be licensed and approved as cars travelling on roads today must be?

    The most interesting point raised was when (if?) we reach the point where viruses are classifiable as sentient beings. Do we then have the right to arbitrarily exterminate them? I could in my stupidest dreams foresee a court case where the latest Internet Explorer 99 bug is arguing for it's continued existence, social welfare and the right to bear children.

  10. Re:20 years and a little analogy to biology by the+unbeliever · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What would you suggest? People will write viruses for every platform. People just write more for Windows since it is the most prevalent environment.

    Greater security in the operating system will help, but there will always be people who are willing to find ways to break the system, some maliciously, others not so much. There is no perfect solution.

  11. Re:Strange by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sadly, as spammers become interested in exploited open relays for their "business", writing viruses is slowly but surely becoming lucrative. And we're not talking about some random 13 year olds with a 1997 OE exploit, here, either. While most professionals would never write a virus for fun, money is always a very good, very valid and very strong argument.

    Such is life. Get Grisoft AVG while you can, free and good virus scanner. Norton sans bloat and anual subscriptions.

  12. Re:Are capability systems a blanket solution? by Kirill+Lokshin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In theory, a capability system can be used to prevent many types of viruses; however, they are still vulnerable to at least two kinds of attacks.

    First, if a program is capable of causing damage with rights it legitimately possesses, the capability system will be unable to prevent it from doing whatever it chooses. This would typically require some sort of manual intervention (exploiting a backdoor, rooting the system, spoofing a distribution site) to compromise a trusted component, but there are many programs which run with enough rights to spread themselves. For instance, if the file system manager is a trojan, it can copy itself or delete a user's files without overstepping the security mechanism.

    Second, capability systems are just as susceptible to social engineering as any other security device: if a user naively grants the "cool new game" he just received in an email full rights to his system, the rest of the security policy is pretty much useless. The danger lessens if only administrators can grant rights to programs, but in general no security mechanism can protect a system if it is not used as it was intended

  13. Re:Address to spelling mistakes... by Malc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You're always going to get people who are looking for any excuse to bring another down.

    Then you have those who are seeing a common mistake and pointing it out, either through their own superiority or in an attempt to help others mend their ways.

    And there are others who find that basic mistakes diminish the credibility of the text. If the author can't even get the obvious things right, how much of the rest is correct?

    I personally get annoyed with people who make common mistakes like using they're, there and their interchangably. Why? It slows my reading down as I pause and translate. Too many mistakes and I just move on... that person's voice unheard by me. Sure, I can understand it if I read it for long enough, but why should I make the effort when the author could've tried a bit harder. Oh, and at the risk of sounding hypocritical, I can't abide laziness either.

  14. A Brief Introduction to UNIX SHELL Virus by dark-br · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Speaking of virus it has always been somewhat mysterious. I remember when I compiled my first dos virus in assembling it was such a painful task. From the initial assumption to the final accomplishment it took me more than 3 months, but what I had compiled was still at mess. Recently I come up with the idea that virus ultimately is something that affects other files and spreads itself, so it would not be too complicated to compile a virus by shell. Then I conveniently compiled the following script. Its functionality is to affect other shell programs.

    This program is of little practical significance, but it is helpful to visually understand the virus spread mechanism. Therefore, its instructive significance is more important than the practical one.

    Read the rest here.

  15. Re:not to nitpick by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Serious question: Given the existance of microscopic organisms wasn't taken seriously/believed to affect health until the 19th Century, what exactly where the Romans describing when they used the world "virus"?

    IIRC, it wouldn't have been medical: the Romans used a health model based upon the "four humours" (blood, mucus, etc) where illnesses that we today would attribute to a virus were then seen in terms of surpluses or shortages within the body of a particular humour. At that point, I don't believe Romans had the technology to see microscopic organisms, let alone associate them with illness and disease.

    So what did "virus" mean?

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  16. Fred Cohen is mistaken by toddhisattva · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Fred Cohen **DID NOT** coin the term "computer virus" 20 years ago. He may think he did, or he may be a liar. The term was **ALREADY IN USE** in 1979, some three or four years before the event described in News.com. I would guess that the person who coined the term was an associate/customer of Steve Jackson, who at the time was producing "microgames," like Ogre and GEV. It is from the players of these games that "virus" began to be applied to computer programs.

    By 1982, there were mutant versions of Apple ][ DOS that were called viruses.

    By 1986, the DoD was soliciting RFPs through the SBIR program for people to write viruses.

    Cohen and News.com are completely and totally **WRONG** about the coinage of the term. An academic and a news outlet: nobody should be surpised they're full of sh!t.

  17. Small world department by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This might be slightly offtopic, but the referenced article has a sidebar about the first effective mass-mailing worm, Melissa, in 1999. Shortly after it came out, I was advised at work to double-check my current antivirus software, and was shocked to find that the laptop I'd gotten from work a few months earlier actually hadn't had any installed.

    I was told to hand it off to our sysadmin group, and gave it to someone I'd never met before, named David Smith. The day later when I got it back, I was driving home when I heard that someone in NJ named David Smith had been arrested for releasing the worm. While I laughed about the coincidence, and assumed it was someone else since his town in NJ was many miles from my employer, sure enough a few hours later I got mail at work saying a contractor there had been accused of it.

    The epilogue is that in the last day he was working there, he worked on at least two computers: mine and that of the head of the lab. And while I was a bit nervous, I'm pretty sure he just did a fine job, and didn't leave any surprises in the systems he was tinkering with at the time.

    Robert T. Morris (of the 1988 worm fame) is now a professor at MIT. I wonder what Mr. Smith will be doing a few years from now? (And please avoid the one-liner.... "time" :)

  18. English: a beautifully flexible language. by fireboy1919 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We make new words out of old ones all the time;
    we verb anything;
    we create words like "tintinabulation" just because of how they sound, or add words just to have another one that means the same thing;
    we create euphemisms for euphemisms;
    there is even a word or two with roots that come from two different languages;
    we have only a few words to describe the qualities of sounds (mostly only distinguishing good sounds from bad ones), and between the qualities of smells (mostly only distinguishing good smells from bad ones);
    we can make gramatically correct sentences that are difficult to parse - in fact, it has been proven that we can make such sentences that are impossible to parse.

    All these things are, of course, ridiculous.

    Why not add one more thing to the list of ridiculii?

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  19. Missed the morris worm? by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Perhaps I just didn't notice, but I think we managed to go past the 15'th anniversary of The Morris worm without noting it.

    For many people in the UNIX community, the Morris worm was the great wakeup call that the 'net was no longer a safe space where you could trust all the other sysadmins (( as was especially the case when your 'net was really only a LAN )).

    As a result of the Morris worm, people started to lock down their systems and software, including simple things like using fgets(3) instead of gets(3).
    (This lesson was also available to Microsoft, but they chose to ignore it until very recently.)

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